[Mailman-Users] Spamassassin Integration Question

Brad Knowles brad at shub-internet.org
Tue Oct 24 02:48:09 CEST 2006

At 4:22 PM -0700 10/23/06, Christopher Hatty wrote:

>  I've followed the instructions at this site:
>  http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/

Personally, I am strongly opposed to integrating these sorts of 
things into Mailman itself.  This should be done before the message 
ever gets to Mailman, so that Mailman never even sees most of the 
spam, and only has to hold for moderation the stuff that you're not 
sure about.

Basically, once you've accepted the spam, you're dead meat.  By that 
point, you've already lost the war.  You have to be able to detect 
and eliminate spam before your server ever gets to the point where it 
could potentially accept the message.  That means these kinds of 
checks need to be done interactively, and these kinds of tools to 
perform these checks need to be integrated into the MTA -- not 

>  If a message is detected as spam, it is sent to the moderation queue, even
>  if that message would otherwise have been discarded.
>  Has anyone else run into this and managed to find a workaround?

IIRC, Mailman 2.1.6 brought in a new feature whereby you could cause 
rules to fire that would result in messages being rejected or 
discarded before the message was checked to see if it was sent by a 
member, which would trigger the other typical rules that would result 
in a message being held for moderation.

But 2.1.6 had some security holes, and there were other problems with 
2.1.7 and 2.1.8, so 2.1.9 is now out.  Try that version, and if you 
can't get that to work, let us know what problems you're having and 
maybe we can help.

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