[Mailman-Users] Redirect all -bounce emails

Tom Kavanaugh tomnaugh at gmail.com
Thu Sep 21 19:09:39 CEST 2006

Hello folks,

I am currently re-directing all the lists -admin -bounce -owner -confirm
-join -leave -owner -request -subscribe -unsubsribe to mailman at name.com

Currently, I administer all the mail lists and so this works well.

Going forward, I would like to make the list ownership of each list to the
relevant project manager. So, the -admin, -bounce, etc of every list will
have to go to a different email.

My Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py looks like below. This was done from my
previous posting in this discussion forum.
# Envelope sender (bounces) is always the site list.
    envsender = 'mailman at name.com'

Is it possible for :
lista -admin -bounce -owner -confirm etc to go to name1 at name.com
listb -admin -bounce -owner -confirm etc to go to name2 at name.com
listc -admin -bounce -owner -confirm etc to go to name3 at name.com


On 2/12/06, Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> wrote:
> Tom Kavanaugh wrote:
> >
> >>If you're thinking that you can get around the issue by having all
> bounces
> >from any list be
> >>returned to the 'mailman' list posting address, you could do this in the
> >source code, but >not by using aliases on mine.name.com.
> >
> >Yes, this is precisely what I want to accomplish. Could you point me to
> some
> >place, or the portion of the code that needs to be tinkered with. I am
> not a
> >perl/python person, so this is going to be a huge learning curve for me.
> There are two obvious ways that jump to mind.
> The first, which will address the bounce issue for all mail, is the
> following code at the beginning of the process() function in
> Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py
>     # Calculate the non-VERP envelope sender.
>     envsender = msgdata.get('envsender')
>     if envsender is None:
>         if mlist:
>             envsender = mlist.GetBouncesEmail()
>         else:
>             envsender = Utils.get_site_email(extra='bounces')
> which could simply be replaced by something like
>     # Envelope sender (bounces) is always the site list.
>     envsender = 'mailman at name.com'
> Don't worry about VERP because it is calculated from envsender.
> Another way to do it would be to modify the getListAddress() method
> definition in Mailman/MailList.py to just return 'mailman at name.com'
> when extra is not None and similarly modify get_site_email() in
> Mailman/Utils.py to ignore the extra argument.
> Then it might be possible to do it in your outgoing MTA, not with
> aliases, but with some kind of rewrite of the envelope sender on
> outgoing mail if your MTA supports such a thing.
> --
> Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>       The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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