[Mailman-Users] Subscriptions being disabled

[Robert Boyd Skipper]

Larry:

Thank you.  What was not clear to me was who discarded the message.  You're saying it 
was my own provider.  That explains a lot.  I thought it was the recipient.

If my provider is blocking the last few names on my low-volume list, I've got a serious 
problem. Thanks again for explaining so clearly and patiently.

Skipper


Larry Stone wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, Robert Boyd Skipper wrote:
> 
>> Ok.  Here is another problem.
>>
>> Today, I found that the subscriptions of twenty or so members have been disabled for
>> excessive bounces.  The message accompanying each disabled subscription is:
>>
>> ":fail: Domain skipperweb.org has exceeded the max emails per hour. Message discarded.
>>
>> Now, this is odd, because there seems to have been only one message sent out for the
>> whole day.
> 
> The message seems pretty self-explanatory to me. It sounds like your
> provider limits you to a certain number of outgoing messages per hour and
> you've exceeded it.
> 
> Depending on how you have mailman configured and how your your provider
> counts e-mails (by message or by recipient), one e-mail to the list will
> generate one or more outgoing messages. If you have VERP or full
> personalization turned on, then each message to the list will generate one
> outgoing message for each recipient.
> 
> For example, with VERP on, if you have 120 members, then you generate 120
> outgoing messages. If the limit is 100 per hour, then at least 20 of them
> will bounce (the exact number will depend on how many other outgoing
> messages you've sent that hour for other reasons, e.g., you message to
> this list).
> 
>> I did not receive any previous bounce notifications from these
>> addresses, so if they are bouncing something with my listname on it, it
>> isn't coming back to me in any way that I can find it.
> ...
>> I have bounce processing turned on.  The bounce_score_threshold is set
>> for 5.0.
> 
> With bounce processing turned on, you don't get notified until the bounce
> threshold is exceeded. Until then, the bounces get logged in the Mailman
> bounce log but that's it. So all of them have bounced five times before
> you were notified.
> 
> -- Larry Stone
>    lstone19 at stonejongleux.com
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Robert Boyd Skipper
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