[Mailman-Users] when does logs/post get updated?

Mark Sapiro mark at msapiro.net
Fri Nov 28 18:43:00 CET 2008

Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
>I'm having some problems with my lists recently. I see in my mail log
>that "mailman post" has been called. However, when I look in the
>logs/post file, it's been almost 24 hours since anything has been
>written there.

The post log is written by SMTPDirect (under control of OutgoingRunner)
when the outgoing message is delivered to the MTA.

>I'm running mailman on Ubuntu Hardy, and another weird thing is that
>whenever I stop mailman, it always leaves at least one process hanging
>around. I have to forcefully kill it. After I stop it, I still see:
>list      3833  0.0  0.4  83076  7540 ?        Ss   08:29
>0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start
>list      3842  0.1  2.5 105372 38148 ?        S    08:29
>0:01 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner
>--runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s

It appears that SMTPDirect (actually the underlying Python smtplib) is
hung waiting for a response from the MTA that isn't coming.

>Even more strange when I reboot the machine, I'll see 2 entire sets of
>mailman processes, almost as if the mailman start had been called twice.

It seems like you have two init scripts for Mailman.

>In any case, right now it seems that mailman has stopped accepting
>posts. Is there a way to get more debug from mailman when "mailman post"
>is called? I don't see any errors, yet I don't see the post log file

"mailman post" just puts the message in the in/ queue. I assume from
what you say above that it gets processed by IncomingRunner and even
archived and the problem is in OutgoingRunner.

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