[Mailman-Users] Test mesages

Barry Warsaw barry at python.org
Fri Sep 11 14:28:26 CEST 2009

On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

> Sure.  But why bother?

Well, you already get 90% of that for free in MM3 already, except it's  
only exposed in the test suite.  Launchpad has similar functionality  
and for developers, it's very useful.  It's probably not useful to the  
major of deployments, so it shouldn't be a prominent option, but it  
could be an option nonetheless.

> IMO a much more useful approach would be a
> simple way to clone a list in every way but the membership list and
> the name.

There are two aspects to "cloning".  MM3 already has a style  
management facility, which allows for defining a set of defaults that  
can be applied to a list when it's created, or even afterward.  But  
those are choices of system defined options.  What's not currently  
available is the ability to copy user supplied information from one  
list to another.  That might be an interesting addition.

> BTW, I think that MM developers is the wrong place for this
> discussion, as clearly there's a major difference of consciousness
> between me and Mark on the one hand and LuKreme on the other.  That's
> not a situation where we can take a well-understood requirement to MMD
> and bang out a spec.  If something needs to be done here, we need to
> get "real users'" opinions of what needs doing, I think.

I agree it's important to gather user requirements, but this  
particular discussion seems to center on new features, so it  
definitely crosses over to developers.


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