[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?
johnf at net2000.com.au
Thu Jan 21 01:35:19 CET 2010
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:31:06 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>John Fitzsimons wrote:
< snip >
>>>I think you can see a full, raw message from Gmane if your list has
>>>archives. For a cPanel list xyz at example.com, you would go to
>>>This requires authentication for the private archive (even if the
>>>list's archive is public), but at least in standard Mailman the
>>>equivalent URL will return the entire raw archive mailbox.
I have no idea how close to "standard Mailman" my system is. It is a
hosted system. IIRC I added the mailing list via CPanel.
>>>There, you should be able to find posts from Gmane and see all the
>>When I look at the archives I don't see the header info. Which,
>>normally I would be quite happy about. Anything that helps keep things
>>more "private" the better.
>Did you actually go to a URL for your archive based on the template
>above? If you did, what happened. If you didn't, then do it.
I went to the list info page where it says...
To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the xxxxxxx
The address was...
Though I don't see that directory when I FTP to my site.
If I try your address I think it would translate to..
I then get..
xxxxxxmailinglist Private Archives Authentication
Private archive file not found
>>So now, here is my next question.
>>If I setup the Gmane address for "moderation" and then put the
>>subscriber's address in under....
>>"List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically
>>Would that help to plug the Gmane "hole" ? In other words restrict
>>posting from Gmane to only those who are listed as subscribers ?
>>Can anyone here answer that question and/or express a view on the
>>possibility of this approach working please ?
>It is complicated as I indicated in my original reply. It would help if
>You went to an archive URL based on the template I gave and actually
>found a message.
I have no difficulty finding a message in my archive. It is finding
header info that is the problem.
>But, the answer to your exact question is No. In your scenario, the
>post will presumably be 'from' the Gmane address so it will be hels as
>a post from a moderated member. *_these_nonmembers only applies to
>Now, you could make all those authorized posters members of your list
>(perhaps with no mail delivery and no password reminders), and that
>would work if the posts are From: them. Then I think you could
>moderate the Gmane address, and if it's the envelope sender, and/or
>Sender:, the member address in From: will take priority and determine
>what is done with the post.
Yes, I "think" you are confirming what I am thinking of trying out. To
block ("moderate") everything from Gmane and then add all my
subscribers in the....
"List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically
So, this list would actually be working as a form of "White List".
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