[Mailman-Users] control mail distribution ..

Khalil Abbas khillo100 at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 23 23:11:55 CET 2011

I also forgot to mention something.. I'm managing 57 lists on 18 servers.. 
some are small lists and some are huge but the thing in common is that they 
all send a single message to their lists per day.. but I have put my own 
email address (khillo100 at hotmail dot com) in all of the 57 lists.. and 
everyday I receive between 30 and 40 emails from the lists but never 57!

another thing in common is that all 18 servers never send directly, they go 
thru the same relay server ..

I tried to something, I removed my address from all lists and re-subscribed 
and I received 57 welcome messages.. but when sending to the lists, only 30 
to 40 are received..

any thoughts?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Sapiro
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:20 PM
To: Khalil Abbas
Cc: mailman-users at python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] control mail distribution ..

On 1/23/2011 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Khalil Abbas wrote:
>> well this is much comforting, meaning that there is nothing to worry 
>> about
>> the configuration.. I turned on the "Should Mailman notify you, the list
>> owner, when bounces cause a member's subscription to be disabled?" to yes 
>> to
>> see what happens..
>> but still this does not answer the main question, what causes the 
>> existing
>> real members to be unsubscribed? is it because hotmail and yahoo are
>> rejecting the mail flow that needs to be controlled?
> When you see some actual disabling bounce notifications, you will
> hopefully be able to answer that for yourself. Until then, I don't
> know what causes it.

I also looked more closely at the smtp log you sent earlier. There are a
huge number of mailman generated notices that originate from
BounceRunner. All lists appear affected. I think these are unrecognized
bounce notifications. I have suggested before that there may be a large
amount of spam being sent to the LIST-bounces addresses, but there may
also be a mail loop of some kind. I suggest that you make sure that each
list's (including the 'mailman' list) owner attribute contains only
deliverable addresses and that none of the LIST-* addresses are among
them. Similarly, if there are any moderator addresses, they must be
deliverable and must not include any LIST-* addresses and shouldn't
duplicate any owner addresses for the same list.

Also try sending an email to the LIST-owner addresses to verify such
mail is received.

Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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