[Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 setup
Jitendra Bhaskar
jeetuindian at gmail.com
Mon May 7 21:11:57 CEST 2012
Hey,
First of all thanks to all the guys for quick and nice suggestion. The
thing is that I have some hardware issue. I want to first upgrade my
existing system , then I will use mailman3. Currently I have mailman-2.1.4
running on mya live smtp(postfix) server. I want to migrate 2.1.4 to
2.1.14. I already installed 2.1.14, its working. I installed from source
code with location /usr/local/mailman and in existing server it mailman
installed throung yum. binaries are in /usr/lib/mail and variable data dir
is /var/lib/mailman. Then can any one suggest how to migrate all the data
from existing server to new one.
Thanks & Regards
Jitendra
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 4:56 AM, David <dave at fiteyes.com> wrote:
> Jitendra,
> It looks like you are running Ubuntu 12.04. Correct? I'm trying to install
> Mailman 3.0 beta 1 on Ubuntu 12.04. I'm also trying to install Postorius.
> Maybe my notes can be of help to you.
>
> Florian's got a nice " 5 minute guide to get the Mailman web UI running"
>> which can be found here: http://wiki.list.org/x/PwDL I recommend you
>> take a look at that!
>>
>
> I took a look at that guide and it did not help me much. A big difference
> was that I'm working with the downloadable tarballs instead of with bazaar.
>
> These are all my notes on Mailman 3.0 beta 1 setup on Ubuntu 12.04. I
> don't have the Web UI (Postorious) installed yet. These notes are a work in
> progress. I hesitate to post them because they are not a final solution. If
> I finish getting Mailman 3.0 running before I give up, I'll share my final
> solution too. If someone else gets a final solution, please let me know.
>
> I also came across this useful tutorial:
> Python Ecosystem - An Introduction
> http://mirnazim.org/writings/python-ecosystem-introduction/
> and
> http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/mailman3+in+virtualenv (looks old?)
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Barry Warsaw <barry at list.org> wrote:
>
> On May 03, 2012, at 09:20 PM, David wrote:
>
> >... I need a good tutorial on setting up the development environment,
>
> For me, it depends on whether you want to develop mm3 or install it.
>
>
> I want to install and run it and play with it like a user. I'm not a
> python developer (at least not yet, and not sure if I'll ever get that far).
>
>
> Barry wrote: If instead you want to run Mailman 3, I recommend using
> virtualenv and skipping buildout.
>
> OK. Thanks for the advice.
>
> I'll detail my steps in case it helps someone else. (I also have a few
> questions mixed in below.) Here's what I did:
>
> First set up a new Linode with Ubuntu 12.04
> apt-get update
> apt-get dist-upgrade
>
> which gcc
> which python
> /usr/bin/python --versions
> curl ifconfig.me/ip
>
> create DNS records
> A record for mailman3.example.com
> MX record for mailman3 mailman3 level 10
>
>
> ssh into Ubuntu server
> sudo apt-get install build-essential python-dev python-virtualenv
> cd /opt/
> wget
> https://launchpad.net/mailman/3.0/3.0.0b1/+download/mailman-3.0.0b1.tar.gz
> tar -xf mailman-3.0.0b1.tar.gz
> mkdir mailman3_venv
> # virtualenv /opt/mailman3_venv/
> (New python executable in /opt/mailman3_venv/bin/python)
>
> Barry wrote: I do recommend creating an etc/mailman.cfg to customize
> various aspects of Mailman before you start. Take a look at
> src/mailman/config/schema.cfg and .../mailman.cfg for the default settings.
>
>
> # nano /etc/mailman.cfg
> done
>
> sudo apt-get install postfix openssl-blacklist ssl-cert
>
> # nano /etc/postfix/main.cf
>
> ***************** QUESTION *********************
> Are the following paths correct???
> transport_maps =
> hash:/opt/mailman-3.0.0b1/var/data/postfix_lmtp
> local_recipient_maps =
> hash:/opt/mailman-3.0.0b1/var/data/postfix_lmtp
>
> *******************************************************
>
> After modifying main.cf, be sure to run '/etc/init.d/postfix reload'.
> root at localhost:/etc/postfix# /etc/init.d/postfix reload
> * Reloading Postfix
> configuration... [ OK
> ]
>
> # source /opt/mailman3_venv/bin/activate
> python setup.py install
> Finished processing dependencies for mailman==3.0.0b1
>
> Barry wrote: Now you can run `mailman info` to get some basic
> information about how your
> system is configured,
>
>
> (mailman3_venv)root at localhost:/opt/mailman-3.0.0b1# mailman info
>
> GNU Mailman 3.0.0b1 (The Twilight Zone)
> Python 2.7.3 (default, Apr 20 2012, 22:39:59)
> [GCC 4.6.3]
> config file: /etc/mailman.cfg
> db url: sqlite:////opt/mailman-3.0.0b1/var/data/mailman.db
> REST root url: http://mailman3.example.com:80/3.0/
> REST credentials: yyyyyyyyyyyy:xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> `mailman start` to start the system, etc.
>
>
> (mailman3_venv)root at localhost:/opt/mailman-3.0.0b1# mailman start
> Starting Mailman's master runner
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Next Question:
> *** A tutorial for setting up Postorius? ***
>
>
> Following this guide:
> http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/A+5+minute+guide+to+get+the+Mailman+web+UI+running
> I did these steps:
>
> wget http://www.djangoproject.com/download/1.4/tarball/ -O
> Django-1.4.tar.gz
> tar xzvf Django-1.4.tar.gz
>
> Question: could I have instead used
> # apt-get install python-django python-django-social-auth
>
> wget
> https://launchpad.net/postorius/trunk/1.0.0a1/+download/postorius-1.0.0a.tar.gz
> tar xf postorius-1.0.0a.tar.gz
>
> source /opt/mailman3_venv/bin/activate
> /opt/mailman-3.0.0b1# mailman start
>
> cd Django-1.4
> sudo python setup.py install
>
> # cd postorius/
> sudo python setup.py develop
>
> Question: How do I test that these steps have worked so far?
>
> Next, the guide (
> http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/A+5+minute+guide+to+get+the+Mailman+web+UI+running)
> mentions:
>
> Start the development server
> $ cd dev_setup
> $ python manage.py syncdb
> $ python manage.py runserver
>
> The last command will start the dev server on http://localhost:8000
>
> I don't have a dev_setup directory. Also, I want to start the Web GUI on
> port 80 for public access via apache.
>
> > The following page is empty:
> > How to get Postorius running on Apache and mod_wsgi
> >
> http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/How+to+get+Postorius+running+on+Apache+and+mod_wsgi
>
> Richard wrote: Postorius is just a Django-based website that
> communicates with MM3. To deploy it, find, and follow, the directions which
> apply to any website powered by Django. However, I should warn you that
> Postorius is not as far along in its development as is the core parts that
> handle mail. In fact, at this time, there are so many things missing that
> you will be disappointed if you attempt to make the interface publicly
> visible.
>
> Next Question:
> ----------------------
> *** what are the first tests I should perform after starting mailman? ***
>
> Barry wrote: Try creating a mailing list from the command line:
> $ mailman create -d test at mailman3.example.com.com
>
> Barry wrote: Subscribe some addresses to mylist. Edit a file with a
> list of email addresses and names using one of these formats, one entry per
> line:
> anne at example.com (Anne Person)
> Bart Person <bart at example.com>
>
> Barry wrote: then run:
> $ mailman members -a filename.txt test at mailman3.example.com.com
>
> Barry wrote: Now start up Mailman, your MTA
>
> Question: What is the method for generating aliases for Postfix in Mailman
> 3?
>
> I've already done: # apt-get install postfix openssl-blacklist ssl-cert
> see:
> http://packages.python.org/mailman/src/mailman/commands/docs/aliases.html
>
> Barry wrote: ...and send a message to test at mailman3.example.com.com.
> All the members you just added should get a copy. Check your MTA logs and
> Mailman's own logs for details or problems.
>
>
>
>
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* Thanks & Regards *
*Jitendra Kumar Bhaskar*
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