[Mailman-Users] issue with QMailToaster Mailman implementation

Mark Sapiro mark at msapiro.net
Fri Nov 1 15:48:21 CET 2013

On 10/31/2013 10:23 AM, Fabian Santiago wrote:
> It all seems to function well except for one thing; when I send email to
> 'mailman-owner at lists.photoblogverona.com', I receive back a failure
> notice stating:
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.photoblogverona.com.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
> addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
> <postmaster at lists.photoblogverona.com>:
> This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6)

It appears that the list's 'owner' address is
<postmaster at lists.photoblogverona.com>. Can you successfully mail
directly to that address or to whatever address is listed as the list's
owner (note that this should be a fully qualified address, e.g.
'postmaster at photoblogverona.com', not just 'postmaster')? If not, this
is not a Mailman issue at all.

If you can mail directly to that address, then the issue may be the way
mail is delivered to -owner. The MTA will first deliver the mail by
piping it to Mailman's mail wrapper for the list -owner. This will
probably result in a

Delivered-To: mailman-owner at lists.photoblogverona.com

being header added then Mailman will resend the mail to the actual
'owner' address. It is possible, but not likely that qmail is confused
by the already added Delivered-To: header. If so, this looks like a
qmail bug.

> I've also emailed the people involved with QMT but figured I would also
> ask here as well. thanks for your help in advance.

They are more likely to be able to help as this is probably a qmail issue.

Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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