[Mailman-Users] DMARC

Jim Popovitch jimpop at gmail.com
Wed Apr 16 21:32:50 CEST 2014

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM, jason fb <lists at datatravels.com> wrote:
> Isn't this DMARC issue a bellwether for the end of email lists as we know them?  It seems to me that the means of production (the internet backbone, the mail servers, etc) are now owned by Big Media (Comcast, Walt Disney, CBS, Viacom, Time Warner) and it is in their interest to make sure they can sell as much advertising as possible to the cattle.

That statement is even more relevant when you consider that some of
the biggest DMARC promoters offer (advertising revenue-based
electronic communication) services that they have always believed to
be a replacement for mailinglists.

> People who operate Mailman servers (you guys) are just the little guys who are helping people facilitate non-advertisable communication between the masses.
> This seems like a poignant example of the fiction of the distributed network. The last 15 years of the internet history (indeed, the first 15 years of internet history) has been the story of the consolidation of control into the hands of the few, not the open and egalitarian peer-to-peer network utopia that the internet was touted to be in populist culture.
> If I really have something to say to someone, I write it using ink and paper, put it in an envelope, put a stamp on it and drop it into an actual post box. This way I know the NSA can't see it.

The USPS publicly acknowledges (which makes one wonder what they
haven't publicly acknowledged) that it regularly scans and saves
postal envelopes (postcards too!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_Isolation_Control_and_Tracking . 160
billion pieces in 2012, but don't worry it's only META data.

-Jim P.

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