[Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

Dave Stevens geek at uniserve.com
Tue Apr 7 20:30:52 CEST 2015

Quoting Bill Cole <mailmanu-20150316 at billmail.scconsult.com>:

> On 6 Apr 2015, at 20:02, Andrew Stuart wrote:
>> Sounds like not working with JavaScript is something important to  
>> you.  What’s the thinking behind wanting to work without  
>> JavaScript?  Isn’t it kinda hard to navigate the modern web without  
>> JavaScript?
> I don't know the original poster's motivations, but for me it is  
> entirely practical. I work in a diverse variety of environments  
> administering a complex menagerie of systems and Mailman is just one  
> small piece of that. I frequently don't have a convenient modern GUI  
> browser configured to my tastes/paranoias running on a network I  
> trust, and it is actually more convenient for me to use a text  
> browser with weak or no JS support (yes, really.) It is also an  
> issue for user support, since users do work with the MM web  
> interface from time to time. JS is an area where interop between  
> browsers and the diverse ways users tweak them is at its worst.  
> Supporting users who have found new ways for the MM web interface to  
> not work because of JS subtleties sounds like at least the 6th ring  
> of Hell. Also, sticking with a pure HTML client interface makes it  
> easier to validate its security, e.g. a site with no scripts has no  
> XSS vulnerabilities. MM isn't the sort of web application that one  
> spends hours at a time using, so the slicker operation you can get  
> from a JS-heavy system isn't really very valuable.
> Short version: a tool like the MM web interface should minimize the  
> possible failure modes even if that means sacrificing some fluidity  
> of use.



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