[Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?
Dave Stevens
geek at uniserve.com
Tue Apr 7 20:30:52 CEST 2015
Quoting Bill Cole <mailmanu-20150316 at billmail.scconsult.com>:
> On 6 Apr 2015, at 20:02, Andrew Stuart wrote:
>
>> Sounds like not working with JavaScript is something important to
>> you. What’s the thinking behind wanting to work without
>> JavaScript? Isn’t it kinda hard to navigate the modern web without
>> JavaScript?
>
> I don't know the original poster's motivations, but for me it is
> entirely practical. I work in a diverse variety of environments
> administering a complex menagerie of systems and Mailman is just one
> small piece of that. I frequently don't have a convenient modern GUI
> browser configured to my tastes/paranoias running on a network I
> trust, and it is actually more convenient for me to use a text
> browser with weak or no JS support (yes, really.) It is also an
> issue for user support, since users do work with the MM web
> interface from time to time. JS is an area where interop between
> browsers and the diverse ways users tweak them is at its worst.
> Supporting users who have found new ways for the MM web interface to
> not work because of JS subtleties sounds like at least the 6th ring
> of Hell. Also, sticking with a pure HTML client interface makes it
> easier to validate its security, e.g. a site with no scripts has no
> XSS vulnerabilities. MM isn't the sort of web application that one
> spends hours at a time using, so the slicker operation you can get
> from a JS-heavy system isn't really very valuable.
>
> Short version: a tool like the MM web interface should minimize the
> possible failure modes even if that means sacrificing some fluidity
> of use.
+1
D
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