[Mailman-Users] need assistance upgrading Mailman

Brian Carpenter brian at emwd.com
Mon Aug 24 19:11:17 CEST 2015


Hi Nina:

I actually pointed you to our Cloud VPS service where we can setup Mailman
on it and assist you with the migration of your lists. With as many lists as
you have, our VPS service is for more affordable an option.



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
> bounces+brian=emwd.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Nina Nicholson
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 12:51 PM
> To: mailman-users at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] need assistance upgrading Mailman
> 
> Thanks all for your quick replies.
> 
> Duly noted: Mailman lists are not Listservs. Also, not all tissues are
Kleenex
> and not all adhesive tape is Scotch Tape -- but these copyrighted names
all
> tend to get used as generic terms. :)
> 
> I have a dedicated virtual server with a shell login account and am
allowed to
> update it. Unfortunately, my Unix skills are minimal and not up to
attempting
> this on my own. I have managed other installations on my server when being
> walked through it, remotely, by an experienced person.
> 
> I looked at pricing for http://www.emwd.com, and at $4.50 per month per
> list, with 70+ lists, this would cost us in excess of $3780/year. We're a
religious
> organization with the budget to match -- before I can get Diocesan Council
to
> approve that type of budget increase for something we've had for free up
> until now, I first have to convince them I've exhausted every other option
for
> fixing our current lists -- which means at least trying the update to see
if that
> helps.
> 
> I'll look at the list of Mailman hosts to see if I can find something more
> affordable -- I would certainly love to outsource this task if I could --
but I'm
> still hoping to connect with someone who can assist me with the upgrade.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Nina
> 
> Nina Nicholson
> Director of Communications & Technology
> The Episcopal Diocese of Newark
> 973-430-9907
> http://dioceseofnewark.org
> http://facebook.com/dionewark
> http://twitter.com/dionewark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
> bounces+nnicholson=dioceseofnewark.org at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sapiro
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 9:02 PM
> To: mailman-users at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] need assistance upgrading Mailman
> 
> On 08/23/2015 04:45 PM, Nina Nicholson wrote:
> > I manage 70+ Mailman listservs for the Episcopal Diocese of Newark, and
> we are having terrible problems with emails not being delivered because
> they fail DMARC Evaluation, to the point that it's disrupting
communications
> in the diocese.
> 
> 
> Please see <http://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv>
> 
> 
> > Our listservs are hosted by MediaTemple which provides Mailman ver.
> 2.1.9. I understand that if I were to upgrade to the latest version there
are
> new features that would solve this problem. I've found the upgrade
> instructions
> (http://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.80%20How%20do%20I%20upgrade%20from%20
> Mailman%202.1.x%20to%20a%20later%20Mailman%202.1.y%3F) but they are
> beyond my limited Unix skills. MediaTemple refuses to do the upgrade.
> 
> 
> Do you have a VPS with Mailman installed or are you on a shared host? If
the
> latter, it is unlikely that you have the access necessary to upgrade
Mailman
> on the host and it is unlikely that MediaTemple would be happy with your
> doing it even if you could.
> 
> You may wish to see
> <http://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20hosting%20services>. I have no
> information on most of these, but based on interactions with the
proprietor
> of EMWD and dotList, I can recommend them. This should not be construed
> as a negative review of anyone else on that list. It's just that I have no
basis
> to evaluate most of them.
> 
> You may also find
> <http://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20consulting%20services> of interest.
> Particularly the link to the Python jobs board.
> 
> Finally, you may wish to try one of the suggestions at
> <http://wiki.list.org/x/17891458> as an interim stopgap measure.
> 
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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