[Mailman-Users] Fwd: BCC and bounces

Wed Sep 30 13:36:14 CEST 2015

Thank you. i put something below:

On 09/29/2015 07:05 AM, Borja Riesgo Juan wrote:
> >* MY problem is the following. My ISP doen´st allow to send more than
*>* 100 messages per hour.
*>* I have a music group with 100-150 people in it.
*>* I have to sent messages in the CCO field but now this is not allow in
*>* my ISP and
*>* the only thing they allow me to do is sending using mailman.
*>*  I want that the aspect of the mail are similiar to the mails that
*>* have users in the CCO.
*>*  That's the rest for hidden the list. i don´t want they reply the
*>* list, and i want them to reply to my email address.
*

The FAQ article at <http://wiki.list.org/x/4030685> explains how to set
up such a list.
--> I did it. i want only two users to write to the list. how can i do
for set-reply_goes_to_list? how can i do to reply to the user that
write the mail?

 >* may change the listname-bounces at domainname
<https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>? i don´t like
this. why is
*>* this created? what is the aim of this address?
*

This address is used as the envelope sender and as the Sender: and
Errors-To: header addresses to enable bounced mail to be returned to the
listname-bounces address for Mailman's automated bounce processing.
--> i imagine that i  cannot delete it. is there any possibility? I
don´t like this. i try to disable mailman's automated bounce
processing and the list is still there.

 >* i have asked to update to a new vesion or mailman and the answer from
*>* my isp is that is not allowed. the version with the isp 2.1.12. the
*>* have to updte the cpanel
*

If you have issues with your hosting provider, there are plenty of
others who offer current cPanel which includes Mailman 2.1.20.

-- 
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Un saludo

Borja Riesgo
borjariesgo at gmail.com

2015-09-29 16:05 GMT+02:00 Borja Riesgo Juan <borjariesgo at gmail.com>:

> I answer:
>
> anonymous_list = Yes will do its best to conceal the identity of the
> person who posted to the list. It makes no attempt to conceal the fact
> that the message came from a list.
>
>
> >* --> I imagine that it cannot be supress. in my case, only a few users
> *>* will be able to reply.
> *
>
> I believe you are trying to do things that Mailman is not designed to
> do. If the people on your list do not know that they are on a list, How
> did they get there. Did they get there by confirmed opt-in or did you
> add them without their informed consent?
>
> In your original post, you said
>
>
> >* To sum up, i want that the list is something that they don´t know. how can
> *>* i do that?
> *
>
> The answer is "mailman is not designed to do that". If you need to do
> that, you'll have to use something else.
>
> MY problem is the following. My ISP doen´st allow to send more than 100 messages per hour.
> I have a music group with 100-150 people in it.
> I have to sent messages in the CCO field but now this is not allow in my ISP and
> the only thing they allow me to do is sending using mailman.
>  I want that the aspect of the mail are similiar to the mails that have users in the CCO.
>  That's the rest for hidden the list. i don´t want they reply the list, and i want them to reply to my email address.
>
> may change the listname-bounces at domainname? i don´t like this. why is this created? what is the aim of this address?
>
> i have asked to update to a new vesion or mailman and the answer from my isp is that is not allowed. the version with the isp 2.1.12. the have to updte the cpanel
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Borja
>
>
>
> Un saludo
>
> Borja Riesgo
> borjariesgo at gmail.com
>
> 2015-09-28 11:15 GMT+02:00 Borja Riesgo Juan <borjariesgo at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> I restart this thread again.
>>
>>
>> I'm coming in late here and most of this thread has been covered, but
>> with respect to the above, the all-bounces at mydomain.com <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> address is the
>> list bounce processing address. Mailman sets the envelope sender and
>> also the Sender: and Errors-To: headers to this value.  If your users
>> are seeing this address, it is probably because they are using a
>> Microsoft mail client that displays something like "From: (the Sender:
>> address) on behalf of (the From: address)".
>>
>> Since Mailman 2.1.14, if a site allows it, there is a list admin General
>> Options -> include_sender_header setting which can be set to No to not
>> include the Sender: header. The all-bounces at mydomain.com <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> address will
>> still be the envelope sender and in the Errors-To: header, but most
>> users won't see it.
>>
>> --> anonymous_list to yes  and first_strip_reply_to to yes.  and without not success. this paramters are supposed to hide the sender and other parameters no? my version is 2.1.12. I shoyld ask to my isp to change it.
>>
>> (Editar *anonymous_list*)
>> <http://lists.corodiocesano.es/mailman/admin/all/?VARHELP=general/anonymous_list>
>>
>> Also see my other reply in this thread at
>> <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2015-September/079783.html>.
>>
>>
>> --> I imagine that it cannot be supress. in my case, only a few users will be able to reply.
>>
>>
>> Un saludo
>>
>> Borja Riesgo
>> borjariesgo at gmail.com
>>
>> 2015-09-08 23:32 GMT+02:00 Peter Bossley <pete at bossley.me>:
>>
>>> But it appears as though the list posting address still winds up in the
>>> CC: field even with FP turned on. It does send a message to each recipient
>>> but I am wondering how one would go about removing the list address in the
>>> CC: field to avoid people replying all.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pete=
>>> bossley.me at python.org] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull
>>> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 8:11 AM
>>> To: borjariesgo at gmail.com
>>> Cc: mailman-users at python.org
>>> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: BCC and bounces
>>>
>>> Borja Riesgo Juan writes:
>>>
>>>  > I want the see that i send the message and they as the receivers.
>>>
>>> For a sufficiently recent mailman (I think that includes everything in
>>> common use nowadays) in the *administrative interface* to the list in the
>>> *Non-digest options* screen, you will find an option to
>>> *personalize* messages.  In my Mailman that is the second option from
>>> the top in that screen.  Set it to "Full Personalization".  That should be
>>> all you need to achieve what you have asked for in this post.
>>>
>>> Then send your messages with
>>>
>>>     To: all at mydomain.com
>>>     From: borjariesgo at gmail.com (or borja at mydomain.com or ...)
>>>
>>> Mailman will *remove* "all at mydomain.com" and substitute each person's
>>> address in To:, in a separate email for each address.  Then
>>> person at example.net will see
>>>
>>>     To: "M. A. Person" <person at xemacs.net>
>>>     From: borjariesgo at gmail.com
>>>
>>> (only one "To" address no matter how many people are on the list).
>>>
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