[Mailman-Users] Configure options not known

Mon Dec 12 17:40:12 EST 2016

> When you go to http://mail.mydomain.com/ <http://mail.mydomain.com/>, where do you wind up? I.e.,
> whats the URL in the address bar of your browser, and is the resultant
> page an actual page or a 404?

I end up at https://mail.mydomain.com/listinfo <https://mail.mydomain.com/listinfo>

> What happens if you go to https://mail.mydomain.com/? <https://mail.mydomain.com/?>
I end up at https://mail.mydomain.com/ <https://mail.mydomain.com/> 

In /etc/apache2/sites-available I have mailman.con which contains a number of redirects as follows:

<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerName yugi
ServerAdmin gigs at mydomain
Redirect / https://mydomain/ <https://mydomain/>
</VirtualHost>

<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerName mydomain.us <http://mydomain.us/>
ServerAdmin gigs at amydomain.com <mailto:gigs at amydomain.com>
Redirect / https://mydomain.us/ <https://mydomain.us/>
</VirtualHost>

<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerName www.mydomain.us <http://www.mydomain.us/>
ServerAdmin gigs at amydomain.com <mailto:gigs at amydomain.com>
Redirect / https://mail.mydomain.us/ <https://mail.mydomain.us/>
</VirtualHost>

<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerName mail.mydomain.us <http://mail.mydomain.us/>
ServerAdmin gigs at mydomain.com <mailto:gigs at mydomain.com>
Redirect / https://mail.mydomain.us <https://mail.mydomain.us/>

ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/mailman-error.log
CustomLog /var/log/apache2/mailman-access.log combined

<Directory /var/lib/cgi-bin/mailman>
    Options FollowSymLinks
    AllowOverride All
    Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
    Require all granted
</Directory>

</VirtualHost>

and aliases as follows:

Alias /AUP /var/www/html/AUP
Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
Alias /postfixadmin /var/www/html/postfixadmin
Alias /roundcube /var/www/html/roundcube
Alias /images/mailman/ /usr/share/images/mailman/
ScriptAlias /admin /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admin
ScriptAlias /admindb /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb
ScriptAlias /confirm /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/confirm
ScriptAlias /create /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/create
ScriptAlias /edithtml /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/edithtml
ScriptAlias /listinfo /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
ScriptAlias /options /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/options
ScriptAlias /private /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/private
ScriptAlias /rmlist /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/rmlist
ScriptAlias /roster /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/roster
ScriptAlias /subscribe /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/
ScriptAlias / /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

> On Dec 9, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> wrote:
> 
> On 12/09/2016 02:27 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. --prefix is the standard, but there's nothing in /var apart from
>> mailman's crontab. What's an example of a file that I could 'locate' to
>> figure out what mailman is using instead of /var? Or is there another
>> way to determine what it is?
> 
> 
> Where are the archives/, data/, lists/, locks/, logs/, qfiles/ and
> spam/ directories. If they are in the same directory as the bin/, cron/,
> icons/, mail/,  Mailman/,  messages/, pythonlib/, scripts/ and tests/
> directories, then you don't need --with-var-prefix at all because it is
> the same as $prefix. If different, then the containing directory is what
> you need for --with-var-prefix.
> 
> If the bin/, cron/, icons/, mail/,  Mailman/,  messages/, pythonlib/,
> scripts/ and tests/ directories are all in /usr/local/mailman, you don't
> need --prefix because that's the default.
> 
> Finally, if the cgi-bin/ directory is in $prefix, you don't need
> --exec-prefix. Otherwise, --exec-prefix is the path that contains the
> cgi-bin/ directory.
> 
> 
>>    --with-mail-gid and --with-cgi-gid ...
>> 
>>    You can
>>    run strings on your existing mail/mailman and cgi-bin/* wrappers to get
>>    a clue if you don't know.
>> 
>> 
>> I tried strings on those files, and either it wasn't helpful or I am not
>> clueful enough in the first place to know what to look for in the
>> output. Can you offer any additional suggestions here? In case it's
>> meaningful, I don't see any unusual-looking groups in /etc/group. There
>> is a 'mailman' group but no users are in it. There is a 'mail' group
>> with user 'mail' in it.
> 
> 
> Is there is a 'mailman' user? Look in your existing Defaults.py for the
> definitions of
> 
> MAILMAN_USER =
> and
> MAILMAN_GROUP =
> 
> If these are not 'mailman' you will need --with-username and
> --with-groupname options to configure to specify what they are.
> 
> The strings output is tricky because the order of things depends very
> much on the C compiler that built the wrappers.
> 
> Basically, --with-mail-gid is the group with which the MTA invokes the
> wrapper. If the MTA is Postfix and delivery is via aliases, this is the
> primary group of the user that owns the .db file in which the aliases
> are found. With the recommended Postfix-Mailman integration, this is
> normally 'mailman'. --with-cgi-gid is the group with which the web
> server invokes CGIs. This is usually something like 'www-data' or
> 'nobody' or 'apache'.
> 
> It's easy enough to test. If you get it wrong, you'll get group mismatch
> errors and the error message will tell you what you need to do.
> 
> For mail group mismatches, both the bounce message and the system mail
> log will have a message explaining what the group should be. E.g.
> 
> (Command died with status 2: "/var/MM/21/mail/mailman post list1".
> Command output: Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail wrapper
> script to be executed as group "mark", but the system's mail server
> executed the mail script as group "nogroup".  Try tweaking the mail
> server to run the script as group "mark", or re-run configure,
> providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. )
> 
> says provide --with-mail-gid=nogroup to configure (this is a contrived
> test - it usually wouldn't be 'nogroup')
> 
> For CGI group mismatches a similar error message is displayed by the web
> browser and is written in the web server error log or maybe syslog.
> 
> -- 
> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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