[Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

Thu Jun 16 19:04:12 EDT 2016

So, anyone recommend more list-serv friendly hosts?

/jim

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Jim Dory <james at dorydesign.com> wrote:

> We have a community list-serv for local trade and community announcements
> with a subscriber base of nearly 2200 people. Our police and city use it
> for public service announcements, people use it for selling/trading
> virtually anything (seal oil, outboards, guns, blue berries, you name it)
> and is by subscription only.
>
> If someone is not a member, they cannot post. When a member posts, it goes
> to all others subscribers.
>
> Any suggestions on how to answer this:
>
> Here is the threat (hopefully I've removed personal emails from it):
>
> Hello,
>
> These cross promotion posts from your mailing list will need to cease or
> we will not host you any further. We have mounting complaints from AOL,
> Yahoo and Hotmail with some of which are now blocking the server you're on
> specifically because of your mailings. This is not isolated to a single set
> of users complaining it's a large amount that is enough for these providers
> to take action. Here's an example of Hotmail complaining today:
>
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> COL004-MC1F11.hotmail.com <http://col004-mc1f11.hotmail.com/> over TLS
> secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23143);
> Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:00:15 -0700
> Received: from lax203.hawkhost.com ([198.252.106.68])
> by se003.arandomserver.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256)
> (Exim 4.85)
> (envelope-from <nome-announce-bounces at nomekennelclub.com>)
> id 1bCAcC-0005mK-IL; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:00:11 -0500
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> by lax203.hawkhost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.87)
> (envelope-from <nome-announce-bounces at nomekennelclub.com>)
> id 1bCAc7-000pSR-SI; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:00:03 -0700
> From: nome-announce-request at nomekennelclub.com
> Subject: Nome-announce Digest, Vol 50, Issue 29
> To: nome-announce at nomekennelclub.com
> Reply-To: nome-announce at nomekennelclub.com
> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:00:01 -0700
> Message-ID: <
> mailman.1.1465758001.197313.nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com at nomekennelclub.com
> >
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> <snip>
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>
> Send Nome-announce mailing list submissions to
> nome-announce at nomekennelclub.com
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://nomekennelclub.com/mailman/listinfo/nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com
>
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> nome-announce-request at nomekennelclub.com
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> nome-announce-owner at nomekennelclub.com
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Nome-announce digest..."
>
> AOL:
>
> Subject:
> [NA] New/unused 2014 90hp Evinrude e-Rec for sale
> From:
> Roy Ashenfelter via Nome-announce <nome-announce at nomekennelclub.com>
> Date:
> 6/13/2016 3:54 AM
> To:
>
> redacted at nomekennelclub.com
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> certificate requested) by mtaig-aae04.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with
> ESMTPS id BADDB700000AC; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:32:39 -0400 (EDT)
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> 2016 02:55:07 -0500
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>
> None from Yahoo they've blocked us entirely.
>
>