[Mailman-Users] Message.UserNotification vs Message.OwnerNotification in Handlers/Hold.py

Mark Sapiro mark at msapiro.net
Wed Oct 19 20:59:38 EDT 2016


On 10/11/2016 09:11 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 10/11/2016 08:37 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>>
>> The emails fail DMARC because the From: is the virtual list domain,
>> but the Sender is set to the site-list (often a neutral domain used
>> for the MTA that hosts the virtual lists).   OpenDKIM signs based on
>> the Sender (see: "MAILING LISTS" at
>> http://www.opendkim.org/opendkim-README), so the sig is NOT aligned
>> with From, thus failing DMARC...and getting notification emails
>> de-prioritized or worse.
> 
> 
> I haven't yet looked at your suggested changes, and I will.


I haven't forgotten. I still have only briefly looked at your changes,
but I'm concerned about your rev 1381 in light of the two comment lines
that precede the change.

The issue is if owner notifications come from the list-bounces rather
than the site email bounces. Then if an owner notice bounces, the owner
is sent a notice of the bounce and it bounces again and so on in a
bounce loop.

I don't understand why you are making this change as the sender
originally is Utils.get_site_email(mlist.host_name, 'bounces'), so it
already has the list's domain.

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