[Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

Steve Wehr steve at tunedinweb.com
Sat Aug 19 11:31:31 EDT 2017

That's the best theory I have heard so far to explain the facts. 

The user's in question, who are being unsubscribed without asking to be, are
people who like the mailing lists they are on, and would not be flagging
emails from the list as spam. Now their ISP might, but they wouldn't. The
list owners swear to me that these people are friends who want their emails.

Some further info... I was including a link at the bottom of all emails sent
by mailman (in the msg_footer field: 
"Click this link to unsubscribe:

I thought perhaps users were accidentally clicking this and unsubscribing
themselves, so I have removed the "&unsubconfirm=1" part of the URL so they
will have to manually confirm.

Maybe this would foil ISPs who are automatically following this link to
unsubscribe people. Do ISPs really do this?

Steve Wehr
Tunedin Web Design

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Seyffarth [mailto:weif at weif.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:55 AM
To: Steve Wehr
Cc: mailman-users at python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

"Steve Wehr" <steve at tunedinweb.com> writes:


> The problem is that when contacted, these users swear they DID NOT 
> unsubscribe themselves. So how can they be getting unsubscribed (with 
> messages in the logs like the one above) but they are not going to the 
> member options page and unsubscribing??

One possibility would be that they are marking these messages as "Junk"
or "Spam" and their ESP/ISP, either through a manual or automated process,
is following the unsubscribe link in the email to remove them from the

from my mac to yours...

Keith Seyffarth
mailto:weif at weif.net
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