[Mailman-Users] no "pending moderator requests" email warnings anymore

Charles Stroom charles at stremen.xs4all.nl
Mon Dec 11 10:27:56 EST 2017


I have used mailman for many years to maintain a small distribution
list for a group of musical instrument makers, called "dehoutblazers".
It has been transferred a couple of times and runs now on a Linux
Opensuse Leap 42.2 server which distributed Mailman 2.1.22.  The list
is purely used via email (no web site), but I do use the
administrative tasks via the web site.

Since a couple of weeks (or maybe longer) there is a problem with
the "attend to pending tasks", for intercepted emails which are
not going through because of the criteria (non-member email, too
large, etc.) I used to receive a message of the mailman, but I am
not getting such messages anymore.  I have been trying to find out
why, but have so far failed.

I tested also some email mailman addresses with the following results.

- the mail list itself works as it should.
My conclusion is that the aliases file is found and used.

- if I send an email to "listname"-request, I get proper replies.

- if I send to "listname"-admin, I do not receive that email, but
instead an email from mailman-bounce to "listname"-owner with my
email attached.

From: mailman-bounces at stremen.xs4all.nl
To: dehoutblazers-owner at stremen.xs4all.nl
Subject: Uncaught bounce notification
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:24:13 +0100
Sender: "dehoutblazers" <mailman-bounces at stremen.xs4all.nl>

The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce
format was not recognised, or no member addresses could be extracted
from it.  This mailing list has been configured to send all
unrecognised bounce messages to the list administrator(s).

For more information see:

From: Charles Stroom <charles at stremen.xs4all.nl>
To: dehoutblazers-admin at stremen.xs4all.nl
Subject: email test
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:24:07 +0100
X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-suse-linux-gnu)

no content
And in the standard mail log of the server I get
postfix/smtpd[3689]: connect from bsmtpdelivery7.xs4all.net[]
postfix/smtpd[3689]: C774F216C: client=bsmtpdelivery7.xs4all.net[]
postfix/cleanup[3693]: C774F216C: message-id=<20171211152407.1611b8b4 at fiume5.localnet>
postfix/qmgr[2642]: C774F216C: from=<charles at stremen.xs4all.nl>, size=1444, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
postfix/smtpd[3689]: disconnect from bsmtpdelivery7.xs4all.net[]
postfix/local[3694]: C774F216C: to=<dehoutblazers-admin at stremen.xs4all.nl>, relay=local, delay=0.35, delays=0.13/0.01/0/0.21, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin dehoutblazers)
postfix/qmgr[2642]: C774F216C: removed
postfix/smtpd[3689]: connect from localhost[::1]
postfix/smtpd[3689]: C36FC216C: client=localhost[::1]
postfix/cleanup[3693]: C36FC216C: message-id=<mailman.0.1513002253.2882.dehoutblazers at stremen.xs4all.nl>
postfix/qmgr[2642]: C36FC216C: from=<mailman-bounces at stremen.xs4all.nl>, size=3058, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
postfix/smtpd[3689]: disconnect from localhost[::1]
postfix/local[3694]: C36FC216C: to=<charles at stremen.xs4all.nl>, relay=local, delay=0.06, delays=0.02/0/0/0.04, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox)
postfix/qmgr[2642]: C36FC216C: removed

- if I send to "listname"-owner, I do not receive any email at all,
as if the email has been delivered to /dev/null.  And in the
standard mail log of the server I get:
postfix/smtpd[3880]: connect from bsmtpdelivery6.xs4all.net[]
postfix/smtpd[3880]: 3814C216C: client=bsmtpdelivery6.xs4all.net[]
postfix/cleanup[3884]: 3814C216C: message-id=<20171211153550.7fb31e1d at fiume5.localnet>
postfix/qmgr[2642]: 3814C216C: from=<charles at stremen.xs4all.nl>, size=1455, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
postfix/smtpd[3880]: disconnect from bsmtpdelivery6.xs4all.net[]
postfix/local[3885]: 3814C216C: to=<dehoutblazers-owner at stremen.xs4all.nl>, relay=local, delay=0.36, delays=0.13/0.01/0/0.22, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner dehoutblazers)
postfix/qmgr[2642]: 3814C216C: removed
postfix/smtpd[3880]: connect from localhost[::1]
postfix/smtpd[3880]: warning: Illegal address syntax from localhost[::1] in MAIL command: <mailman-bounces@>
postfix/smtpd[3880]: disconnect from localhost[::1]

There are pending pending moderator requests in the list
so I tried a manual cron command (as user "mailman"):
/usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs
Nothing happened, the offending emails are not removed, and I did
not receive any email.   With the mail log below
postfix/smtpd[4025]: connect from localhost[::1]
postfix/smtpd[4025]: 1AC17216C: client=localhost[::1]
postfix/cleanup[4028]: 1AC17216C: message-id=<mailman.0.1513003270.4024.dehoutblazers at stremen.xs4all.nl>
postfix/qmgr[2642]: 1AC17216C: from=<dehoutblazers-bounces at stremen.xs4all.nl>, size=1500, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
postfix/smtpd[4025]: disconnect from localhost[::1]
postfix/local[4029]: 1AC17216C: to=<dehoutblazers-owner at stremen.xs4all.nl>, relay=local, delay=0.22, delays=0.03/0.01/0/0.18, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner dehoutblazers)
postfix/qmgr[2642]: 1AC17216C: removed
postfix/smtpd[4025]: connect from localhost[::1]
postfix/smtpd[4025]: warning: Illegal address syntax from localhost[::1] in MAIL command: <mailman-bounces@>
2017-12-11T15:41:13.195034+01:00 stremen6 postfix/smtpd[4025]: disconnect from localhost[::1]

Apparently, the is something wrong with the email message sender
or recipient as formatted by mailman, but to me everything seems OK.
I am the owner and the moderator.

Is there a way to see what mailman is actually transferring to
the postfix program?

I should add that at about the same time I have added a second
mailing list, which behaves similarly.  I am not sure the
erroneous behaviour occurred before, due to, or after that
introduction.  Any help would be appreciated.



Charles Stroom
email: charles at no-spam.stremen.xs4all.nl (remove the "no-spam.")

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