On 11/06/2017 10:17 AM, John Levine wrote:
> In article <851008d1-e6dd-bafe-9e85-e1ebaf1b81a9 at msapiro.net> you write:
>> So my first question is how/why are the posts being held?
>
> Because the people posting from usenet aren't list subscribers. They
> read the messages on usenet.
Then your Mailman must be 2.1.17 or later, and you have a regexp
matching anything in hold_these_nonmembers or your Mailman is older than
2.1.3. From 2.1.3 to 2.1.16, posts from usenet were not subject to
membership tests. Since then, posts from usenet with a sender who is a
moderated member or a non-member matching a pattern in
hold_these_nonmembers will be held.
>>> When mailman mdoerates the message, it sends the usual moderation
>>> message to the usenet poster, which many posters find confusing.
>>
>> This should not happen. The code that sends the user notice of a held
>> post specifically exempts posts from usenet.
>
> Clearly it is expecting something that my gateway isn't including.
> How does it try to guess that a message came from a usenet gateway?
cron/gate_news sets fromusenet = True in the message metadata. This and
not sending notices to posters from usenet has been the case since at
least 2.1.1.
The code in cron/gate_news is
> # Post the message to the locked list
> inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
> inq.enqueue(msg,
> listname = mlist.internal_name(),
> fromusenet = 1)
The code in Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py is
> # We may want to send a notification to the original sender too
> fromusenet = msgdata.get('fromusenet')
> # Since we're sending two messages, which may potentially be in different
> # languages (the user's preferred and the list's preferred for the admin),
> # we need to play some i18n games here. Since the current language
> # context ought to be set up for the user, let's craft his message first.
> cookie = mlist.pend_new(Pending.HELD_MESSAGE, id)
> if not fromusenet and ackp(msg) and mlist.respond_to_post_requests and \
> mlist.autorespondToSender(sender, mlist.getMemberLanguage(sender)):
followed by sending the message conditional on 'not fromusnet' and the
other conditions.
What do you have in those modules? What Mailman version is this? What
packager's patches are included?
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