[Mailman-Users] Sample of an Uncaught bounce notification

Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com
Tue Jan 30 16:48:30 EST 2018

Hi, Reference:
> From:		Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
> Date:		Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:36:50 -0800

Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 01/30/2018 07:48 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > 
> > Mark Sapiro wrote:  Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:10:34 -0800
> >>
> >> Thank you for your report. In this case, the message that is an
> >> "unrecognized bounce" is not an actual bounce of a list message. It is a
> >> message (looks like spam)
> > 
> > Thanks Mark,
> > It's not spam, but a bilingual German & English change of address,
> > presumably from an auto responder from a subscribed address (I checked).
> Thank you for the clarification.
> ...
> > Thanks. At berklix.org I have no time for subscribers who consume
> > list owners' time with auto responders, I like mailman to auto
> > detect automatic response noise, & count & auto unsubscribe continuing
> > noisy subscrbers.
> > 
> > In case the sample is of use I will leave it here for a bit:
> > http://berklix.com/~jhs/tmp/mailman/uncaught_bounce_notification/1
> It's hard enough to recognize all the various non-compliant messages
> which are actually bounces of list mail and extract the bouncing
> address(es) from them.
> While I sympathize with the problem of autoresponders replying to the
> list or the list-bounces address, to try to actually recognize such
> messages as what they are and attribute them to the actual list member
> is a task too daunting for me to consider.
> For autoresponses to the list, you could use header_filter_rules to
> match things like auto-submitted or auto-replied and discard such
> messages, but that won't work for messages to the -bounces address.
> You can chose to forward such messages to the list owners or ignore
> them,

OK, good idea, I'll see what I can set up to ignore

> but to ask Mailman to determine the responsible list member and
> score a bounce is more than I'm willing to try to do.

Thanks, sure, no problem.
Just posted it in case it might have been an easy case to catch.

Julian H. Stacey, Computer Consultant, BSD Linux Unix Systems Engineer, Munich
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