[Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

[Robert Heller]

At Mon, 25 Nov 2019 13:47:16 -0500 Jim Popovitch <jimpop at domainmail.org> wrote:

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> On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 11:06 -0500, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
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> > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 16:59 +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote:
> > > Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users <mailman-users at python.org>:
> > > > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 10:17 -0500, Matthew Pounsett wrote:
> > > > > Is there a timeline for that?  Mailman 2.x requires python 2.x, which is
> > > > > EOL in about 40 days.  
> > > > 
> > > > I keep saying this a lot... the EOL you are referring to is Python's
> > > > declared date that the Python team will no longer maintain Python2.
> > > > HOWEVER, Redhat, Debian, etc., *will* still be maintaining Python2
> > > > throughout the lifecycles of their releases that contain Python2.   So,
> > > > for Debian 10 (Buster) that is well past 2022 (which is the LTS end-data 
> > > > for Debian 9).
> > > 
> > > Python2 is being removed from Debian's next release, Bullseye, though. This already has caused turmoil for the Calibre package and I suppose that they will have to remove mailman 2 also so that it is not going to be in the bullseye release.
> > 
> > Correct, so LTS End-date for Buster (which will be sometime in 2024?)
> > will be the last of Python2 for Debian.
> > 
> > If you are migrating to Bullseye, then it makes sense to plan for an
> > application (e.g. Mailman) migration too.  BUT if you are not using
> > bleeding edge OSes, you don't need to heed the Python fear mongering.
> 
> Since I'm working on PPAs some today, an additional bullet-point to the
> above is that Ubuntu Bionic (which includes Python 2.7) has an EOL of
> April 2028.
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> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
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> Sure, it would be great if everyone migrated to MM3 (and MM3 fit inside
> the requirements of everyone using it..) ASAP, but just like with the
> Linux Kernel there is no magic solution to have everyone on Kernel 5.x
> this week... so guess what, kernel 3x still gets security patches from
> distributors.

And RedHat is still supporting Kernel 2x for RHEL 6...

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> - -Jim P.
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