<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72383" dir="ltr">Mwahahahahaha, I lurk on the #matplotlib channel on irc.freenode.net :).</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72382"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72393" style="display: block;">  <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72392"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72391"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72390"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72394" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Thomas Caswell <tcaswell@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Eric Firing <efiring@hawaii.edu>; matplotlib-devel@python.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 6 August 2017, 1:23<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Matplotlib-devel] list moderation<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72395"><br><div id="yiv8254010025"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72398"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72397">I was thinking of the user list (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/matplotlib-users" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72396">https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/matplotlib-users</a> which you should totally join oceanwolf ;) ) <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_72399"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_76266">Off list Jody volunteered to help with moderating and I set my self up to get the moderation emails from the <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://python.org/">python.org</a> lists.  With the two of us on this I think we should be set (but if anyone else wants to help I will not say no!).</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1501941365769_76271"><br clear="none"></div><div>Tom<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8254010025yqt2606278514" id="yiv8254010025yqt52036"><div class="yiv8254010025gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 2:51 PM Eric Firing <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:efiring@hawaii.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:efiring@hawaii.edu">efiring@hawaii.edu</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv8254010025gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I think Tom is referring to the matplotlib-users list, not the devel<br clear="none">
list.  Nevertheless, I agree with Jody that a well-designed bounce<br clear="none">
message requesting signing up to the list, and including clear<br clear="none">
instructions, would be fine.<br clear="none">
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Eric<br clear="none">
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On 2017/08/05 8:23 AM, OceanWolf via Matplotlib-devel wrote:<br clear="none">
> Exactamundo Jody, and add to that we have designated this list as a<br clear="none">
> discussion place for developers, and not for a new user looking for<br clear="none">
> help, as far as I know we had a separate list for that,<br clear="none">
> "matplotlib-users", or did that disappear when we switched to <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://python.org/">python.org</a><br clear="none">
> for the list hosting?<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">
> Best,<br clear="none">
> Ocean Wolf<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">
> *From:* Klymak Jody <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jklymak@uvic.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:jklymak@uvic.ca">jklymak@uvic.ca</a>><br clear="none">
> *To:* Thomas Caswell <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tcaswell@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tcaswell@gmail.com">tcaswell@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">
> *Cc:* OceanWolf <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:juichenieder-nabb@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:juichenieder-nabb@yahoo.co.uk">juichenieder-nabb@yahoo.co.uk</a>>; matplotlib development<br clear="none">
> list <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:matplotlib-devel@python.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:matplotlib-devel@python.org">matplotlib-devel@python.org</a>><br clear="none">
> *Sent:* Saturday, 5 August 2017, 19:28<br clear="none">
> *Subject:* Re: [Matplotlib-devel] list moderation<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">
> You can just make the bounce message nice.  If you aren't a member of<br clear="none">
> the list you can't expect to see the answer to your query anyways, so<br clear="none">
> asking someone to be signed up for the list isnt particularly user<br clear="none">
> hostile.  And nowhere near as bad as getting no answer at all for three<br clear="none">
> months ;-).<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">
> Cheers.  Jody.<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">
> Sent from my iPhone<br clear="none">
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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 10:18, Thomas Caswell <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tcaswell@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tcaswell@gmail.com">tcaswell@gmail.com</a><br clear="none">
> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tcaswell@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tcaswell@gmail.com">tcaswell@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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>> We should try to be an open and welcoming community.  Getting bounced<br clear="none">
>> from the mailing list is not the best first impression to a new user<br clear="none">
>> looking for help!<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>> Tom<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM OceanWolf<br clear="none">
>> <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:juichenieder-nabb@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:juichenieder-nabb@yahoo.co.uk">juichenieder-nabb@yahoo.co.uk</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:juichenieder-nabb@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:juichenieder-nabb@yahoo.co.uk">juichenieder-nabb@yahoo.co.uk</a>>><br clear="none">
>> wrote:<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>>     Why not c) just discard all emails rejected with a message back to<br clear="none">
>>     the user as to the explanation.  Up to the user to correct the<br clear="none">
>>     problem and try again.  If they weren't a member, then become a<br clear="none">
>>     member.  If you spam with large graphics, then upload it somewhere<br clear="none">
>>     else and insert a link instead.<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">
>>     *From:* Thomas Caswell <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tcaswell@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tcaswell@gmail.com">tcaswell@gmail.com</a><br clear="none">
>>     <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tcaswell@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tcaswell@gmail.com">tcaswell@gmail.com</a>>><br clear="none">
>>     *To:* matplotlib development list <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:matplotlib-devel@python.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:matplotlib-devel@python.org">matplotlib-devel@python.org</a><br clear="none">
>>     <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:matplotlib-devel@python.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:matplotlib-devel@python.org">matplotlib-devel@python.org</a>>><br clear="none">
>>     *Sent:* Saturday, 5 August 2017, 18:41<br clear="none">
>>     *Subject:* [Matplotlib-devel] list moderation<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>>     Folks,<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>>     We have a pretty high false-positive rate in the <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://python.org/">python.org</a><br clear="none">
>>     <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://python.org/">http://python.org/</a>> mailing list moderation queues (mostly due to<br clear="none">
>>     the 'must be a member to post' policy).  I just cleared them from<br clear="none">
>>     May - now (which is why there is a huge spike in emails just now<br clear="none">
>>     >:) )<br clear="none">
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>>     Do we want to:<br clear="none">
>>      a) relax that (at the cost of getting a bit more spam)<br clear="none">
>>      b) some more people volunteer to help moderate the list<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>>     Tom<br clear="none">
>>     _______________________________________________<br clear="none">
>>     Matplotlib-devel mailing list<br clear="none">
>>     <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Matplotlib-devel@python.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Matplotlib-devel@python.org">Matplotlib-devel@python.org</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Matplotlib-devel@python.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Matplotlib-devel@python.org">Matplotlib-devel@python.org</a>><br clear="none">
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>> Matplotlib-devel mailing list<br clear="none">
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> Matplotlib-devel mailing list<br clear="none">
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