[melbourne-pug] web framework advice

[Mike Dewhirst]

Hi guys

I'm looking for a web framework. Does anyone have experience with any of 
the following ...

     WebWare
     TurboGears
     Karigell
     Others I haven't looked at but you have

The infrastructure I like is Linux, Apache, Kinterbasdb + Firebird. In 
case you are wondering, the licensing and very low ongoing admin effort 
for Firebird is behind that choice.

At the moment I'm leaning towards WebWare but that is just because I 
have looked at it a little bit and it seems theoretically OK. It has an 
app server which sits behind Apache and replaces CGI for scalability 
reasons.

Karigell works but uses its own web server and DBMS. Although I could 
put it behind Apache I'm not sure about the effort to slide Firebird 
underneath.

I have heard that TurboGears is brilliant but I worry about "magic" (I 
read that as complex) glue between componentry supplied by different 
teams. Haven't looked at it really so I shouldn't be saying that.

I would like to ask about ...

     1. Development complexity (I know, mmmv)
     2. Scalability
     3. Security against black hats

Thanks for any insights

Mike