[melbourne-pug] melbourne-pug Digest, Vol 91, Issue 21

Kiran Busi kiran.busi at gmail.com
Thu Jan 30 06:31:21 CET 2014


>I'm just not sure how well it would support looking easily for particular
bits of the pages
  You can search by titles or text. To look for bits of the page, you'd
start with text search.
   So far I haven't had much use for the search as organization of my wiki
seems more reliable way to find what i need.
   I've considered moinmoin 2.0 but it seems bit far ready from production
use.

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> > +1 to MoinMoin.
> > I use it myself as a personal wiki.
> > From a hack-ability perspective, it is straightforward to hack and create
> your macros.
> > Templates and Access Control Lists come out of the box.
>
> Cheers yeah, I also found it really easy to do that. I was concerned it
> didn't have a way to query it's list of pages though; but indeed it does.
> I've not tried it out, but it at least looks acceptable (i.e. not as bad as
> walking the filesystem to find them all). I'm just not sure how well it
> would support looking easily for particular bits of the pages; but maybe I
> can store it as metadata somehow; I don't know, but at least is looking a
> bit promising.
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> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Kiran Busi <kiran.busi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 to MoinMoin.
> > I use it myself as a personal wiki.
> > From a hack-ability perspective, it is straightforward to hack and create
> > your macros.
> > Templates and Access Control Lists come out of the box.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >>    1. Re: python-based wiki with nice   query-/template-ability?
> >>       (Noon Silk)
> >>    2. Re: python-based wiki with nice   query-/template-ability?
> >>       (Anthony Briggs)
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> >> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:53:20 +1100
> >> From: Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com>
> >> To: Melbourne Python Users Group <melbourne-pug at python.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [melbourne-pug] python-based wiki with nice
> >>         query-/template-ability?
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> >> > It might help if you gave us some more detail about what you're trying
> >> to
> >> > do, rather than a list of features. eg. The iPython notebook will let
> >> you
> >> > execute arbitrary code, but I don't know whether it can introspect and
> >> > pull bits of other pages in the same notebook.
> >>
> >> I want a Wiki - community editable, versionable, trivial setup, with
> some
> >> customisability to query the pages that the wiki has, and obtain bits of
> >> the pages - say I create a template page and it always contains sections
> >> "Description, Example, Json" and then I want to obtain each "Example"
> from
> >> each "page" that I have queried and do things with it; like perhaps
> create
> >> a graph.
> >>
> >> Something very similar to FindStat.org, really -
> >> http://www.findstat.org/(which uses MoinMoin). Note that while this
> >> looks like it makes a lot of
> >> use of MoinMoin, infact almost all the work is done through MoinMoin
> >> "macros", written in Python. I want to re-use as much of the wiki as
> >> possible.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Anthony Briggs <
> anthony.briggs at gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Trac is pretty painful to set up, from memory.
> >> >
> >> > It might help if you gave us some more detail about what you're trying
> >> to
> >> > do, rather than a list of features. eg. The iPython notebook will let
> >> you
> >> > execute arbitrary code, but I don't know whether it can introspect and
> >> pull
> >> > bits of other pages in the same notebook.
> >> >
> >> > Failling that, it might be relatively easy to roll your own, either
> with
> >> > Django or some combination of Flask/Peewee/Jinja/similar.
> >> >
> >> > Anthony
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 30 January 2014 13:36, Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > There is Django snippets ... https://djangosnippets.org
> >> >> > and Pastebin ... http://pastebin.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> ..., these are both websites. I'm looking for something to customise
> >> >> myself.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Also, have you looked at the Trac wiki? Most people would use it
> for
> >> >> > the ticketing but it also has useful wiki with markup permitting
> >> code.
> >> >>
> >> >> I hadn't considered Trac for this, thanks for reminding me about it.
> >> I'm
> >> >> not sure it's right, though.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Mike Dewhirst <
> miked at dewhirst.com.au
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 30/01/2014 11:56am, Noon Silk wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Hello,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>    So I'm interested in a python-based wiki that I can write
> >> arbitrary
> >> >>>> python code in; perhaps with a view to:
> >> >>>>    1) Creating specific templates,
> >> >>>>    2) Arbitrarily querying the list of pages,
> >> >>>>    3) Obtaining specific "bits" of pages (Perhaps I mark a section
> in
> >> >>>> the template as "json", then I'd want to grab the json from pages
> A,
> >> B,
> >> >>>> X, Y
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>    Anyone know of something out there that does this?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> There is Django snippets ... https://djangosnippets.org
> >> >>> and Pastebin ... http://pastebin.com/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Also, have you looked at the Trac wiki? Most people would use it for
> >> the
> >> >>> ticketing but it also has useful wiki with markup permitting code.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>> At the moment all
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I can think of is MoinMoin [1].
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> [1] http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinWiki
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Noon Silk
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Fancy a quantum lunch? https://sites.google.com/site/quantumlunch/
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy -- the
> >> joy
> >> >>>> of being this signature."
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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> >> >>
> >> >> Fancy a quantum lunch? https://sites.google.com/site/quantumlunch/
> >> >>
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> >> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:11:37 +1100
> >> From: Anthony Briggs <anthony.briggs at gmail.com>
> >> To: Melbourne Python Users Group <melbourne-pug at python.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [melbourne-pug] python-based wiki with nice
> >>         query-/template-ability?
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> >> I don't know of anything like that off of the top of my head, but from a
> >> quick search there are a few lightweight wikis around which might be
> >> possible to hack on, eg. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/djiki and
> >> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/valet. Perhaps they might get you further
> >> than
> >> MoinMoin?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 30 January 2014 14:53, Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > > It might help if you gave us some more detail about what you're
> trying
> >> > to
> >> > > do, rather than a list of features. eg. The iPython notebook will
> let
> >> > you
> >> > > execute arbitrary code, but I don't know whether it can introspect
> and
> >> > > pull bits of other pages in the same notebook.
> >> >
> >> > I want a Wiki - community editable, versionable, trivial setup, with
> >> some
> >> > customisability to query the pages that the wiki has, and obtain bits
> of
> >> > the pages - say I create a template page and it always contains
> sections
> >> > "Description, Example, Json" and then I want to obtain each "Example"
> >> from
> >> > each "page" that I have queried and do things with it; like perhaps
> >> create
> >> > a graph.
> >> >
> >> > Something very similar to FindStat.org, really -
> >> http://www.findstat.org/(which uses MoinMoin). Note that while this
> >> looks like it makes a lot of
> >> > use of MoinMoin, infact almost all the work is done through MoinMoin
> >> > "macros", written in Python. I want to re-use as much of the wiki as
> >> > possible.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Anthony Briggs <
> >> anthony.briggs at gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Trac is pretty painful to set up, from memory.
> >> >>
> >> >> It might help if you gave us some more detail about what you're
> trying
> >> to
> >> >> do, rather than a list of features. eg. The iPython notebook will let
> >> you
> >> >> execute arbitrary code, but I don't know whether it can introspect
> and
> >> pull
> >> >> bits of other pages in the same notebook.
> >> >>
> >> >> Failling that, it might be relatively easy to roll your own, either
> >> with
> >> >> Django or some combination of Flask/Peewee/Jinja/similar.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anthony
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 30 January 2014 13:36, Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> > There is Django snippets ... https://djangosnippets.org
> >> >>> > and Pastebin ... http://pastebin.com/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ..., these are both websites. I'm looking for something to customise
> >> >>> myself.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > Also, have you looked at the Trac wiki? Most people would use it
> for
> >> >>> > the ticketing but it also has useful wiki with markup permitting
> >> code.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I hadn't considered Trac for this, thanks for reminding me about it.
> >> I'm
> >> >>> not sure it's right, though.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Mike Dewhirst <
> >> miked at dewhirst.com.au>wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> On 30/01/2014 11:56am, Noon Silk wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hello,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>    So I'm interested in a python-based wiki that I can write
> >> arbitrary
> >> >>>>> python code in; perhaps with a view to:
> >> >>>>>    1) Creating specific templates,
> >> >>>>>    2) Arbitrarily querying the list of pages,
> >> >>>>>    3) Obtaining specific "bits" of pages (Perhaps I mark a section
> >> in
> >> >>>>> the template as "json", then I'd want to grab the json from pages
> A,
> >> >>>>> B, X, Y
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>    Anyone know of something out there that does this?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> There is Django snippets ... https://djangosnippets.org
> >> >>>> and Pastebin ... http://pastebin.com/
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Also, have you looked at the Trac wiki? Most people would use it
> for
> >> >>>> the ticketing but it also has useful wiki with markup permitting
> >> code.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Mike
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> At the moment all
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> I can think of is MoinMoin [1].
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> [1] http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinWiki
> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> Noon Silk
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Fancy a quantum lunch?
> https://sites.google.com/site/quantumlunch/
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy --
> the
> >> joy
> >> >>>>> of being this signature."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >> >>> Noon Silk
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Fancy a quantum lunch? https://sites.google.com/site/quantumlunch/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy -- the
> >> joy
> >> >>> of being this signature."
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> >> > Fancy a quantum lunch? https://sites.google.com/site/quantumlunch/
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> >> > "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy -- the
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> >> > of being this signature."
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