[melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package manager

[Tim Richardson]

You could do this in a virtual machine if you are worried, perhaps. That
keeps your desktop clean.

On 2 August 2017 at 15:27, Scott Wales <scott.wales at unimelb.edu.au> wrote:

> Anaconda the package manager is a cross platform version of apt-get or
> yum. It can come with either a large set of packages pre-installed (the
> anaconda distribution) or a small set (miniconda). `conda` is the tool that
> the Anaconda package manager uses to install and manage packages, it is not
> really a stand alone thing to be installed with pip.
>
>
> The benefits of Anaconda is that it includes a full dependency solver, so
> the environment is always consistent when you update packages, it can
> handle binary dependencies that pip on its own has trouble with (e.g. for
> numpy), and it makes it simple to share a consistent environment between
> different computers.
>
>
> Anaconda has its own flavour of venvs, works pretty similar to Python's
> but binary dependencies are also kept separate.
>
> The packages in your yaml file are most likely available on PyPI, although
> please do be mindful that the instructors will most likely be unable to
> spend time helping you with installation issues during the tutorial itself.
>
> As a side note I don't believe that PyPI does any vetting of what gets
> uploaded, I'm not sure there's any real difference security wise between
> downloading and running a python script with pip and downloading and
> running a shell script.
>
> Cheers, Scott
>
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> *From:* melbourne-pug <melbourne-pug-bounces+scott.wales=
> unimelb.edu.au at python.org> on behalf of Ben Finney <
> ben+python at benfinney.id.au>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 August 2017 2:55 PM
> *To:* melbourne-pug at python.org
> *Subject:* Re: [melbourne-pug] Install ‘conda’ using Debian package
> manager
>
> Sergio Valqui <svalqui at unimelb.edu.au> writes:
>
> > Anaconda does the version control for all those packages, for a given
> > version of Anaconda there is a given version of the packages
>
> Most Python packages do this by declaring the packages (and versions)
> they depend on, in the Distutils metadata.
>
> Why doesn't Anaconda declare that, so I can install Anaconda by telling
> Pip to bring in all its dependencies in a unified way with other Python
> packages?
>
> > it also manage the environment; so is not as easy as simple installing
> > the packages.
>
> Thank you. Is this more than a Python ‘venv’ environment? What would I
> need to do to have a ‘venv’ environment set up so the Anaconda
> assumptions will work?
>
> > This is difficult to achieve as anaconda manages the package versions,
> > and environment; also the packages are quite diverse too manage them
> > individually
>
> I have a list of dependencies (a YAML file) for the ‘conda’ tool. Are
> they just PyPI packages that I can also install with Pip?
>
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