From guido@cnri.reston.va.us  Thu Sep  7 15:30:16 1995
From: guido@cnri.reston.va.us (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 10:30:16 -0400
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
Message-ID: <199509071430.KAA08334@monty>

Yesterday, Bob reminded me again that not enough people (or rather,
hardly anybody) is signing up for the PSA.  We need to do something.
I propose to start campaigning.  There are three places where I think
we could put an ad in:

1) The www.python.org home page

2) The README file that comes with the Python source distribution

3) The mailing list / newsgroup

Actually (since nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition), there are
*four* places where we could put an ad in:

4) The FAQ

We need two pieces of text:

A) A *short* (2-5 lines, the shorter the better) blurb to attract
people's attention.  It should explain that we want people to write a
check for $50, what the benefits are, and where to find more
information.  This could be inserted in all four places.

B) A more elaborate text explaining what we want in some more detail.
This should be on the Web server in the "How to join the PSA" section
and could also be a separate file in the Misc directory in the source
distribution.  On the mailing list, it could be the second part of the
message.

Here are my cuts:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!

For as little as $50 a year, you can join the PSA.  The money goes
towards care and feeding of the PSA's web, ftp and email servers, the
organization of Python workshops, and other tasks in support of the
Python community.  See <reference> for more info.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Support the Python Software Activity!

The PSA needs money to maintain and improve its web, ftp and email
servers, to organize Python workshops, and to organize or coordinate
other activities in support of the Python community.

Individuals can join the PSA by making a donation of $50 a year.  More
is allowed.  Full-time students can join for only $25.  Companies and
organizations can join by donating $500 or more.  Donations will be
acknowledged on the PSA web server (unless anonimity is requested).

Checks should be made payable to "CNRI/PSA" and sent to the following
address:

	CNRI
	1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100
	Reston, Virginia 22091
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Comments, please, so we can start!

(Roj&Barry -- do you think we need to run this by Bob first?)

--Guido van Rossum <guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
URL: <http://www.python.org/~guido/>

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From cbs@ascinc.com  Thu Sep  7 15:49:09 1995
From: cbs@ascinc.com (Casper Stoel)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:49:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: <199509071430.KAA08334@monty> from "Guido van Rossum" at Sep 7, 95 10:30:16 am
Message-ID: <9509071451.AA25211@ascinc.com>

Guido van Rossum writes:
> 
> Yesterday, Bob reminded me again that not enough people (or rather,
> hardly anybody) is signing up for the PSA.  We need to do something.
> I propose to start campaigning.  There are three places where I think
> we could put an ad in:
> 
> 1) The www.python.org home page
> 
> 2) The README file that comes with the Python source distribution
> 
> 3) The mailing list / newsgroup
> 
> Actually (since nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition), there are
> *four* places where we could put an ad in:
> 
> 4) The FAQ

Talking about the inquisition... Why not have the default page of
Grail be a plug for membership? Add a secure server and hordes of
followers will grab their credit card and join (hey! stop laughing) 

Just an idea....

  Ir. Casper B. Stoel                   Alternative System Concepts Inc.
  email: cbs@ascinc.com                    PO Box 128, Windham, NH 03087
  URL  : http://www.ascinc.com     tel (603) 437-2234 fax (603) 437-2722


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From Paul.Everitt@cminds.com  Thu Sep  7 12:32:40 1995
From: Paul.Everitt@cminds.com (Paul Everitt/Digital Creations)
Date: 7 Sep 95 11:32:40
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
Message-ID: <9509071533.AA3678@phoenix.cminds.com>

One thing that is needed for companies to join, I believe, 
is some type of form that can act as an "invoice".  I had 
trolled around, but couldn't find any examples.

What does the IETF give as a "receipt" or "invoice"?

--Paul


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From ken.manheimer@nist.gov  Thu Sep  7 16:35:45 1995
From: ken.manheimer@nist.gov (Ken Manheimer)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:35:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: <199509071430.KAA08334@monty>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907111147.25143J-100000@coil.nist.gov>

On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Guido van Rossum wrote:

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!
> 
> For as little as $50 a year, you can join the PSA.  The money goes
> towards care and feeding of the PSA's web, ftp and email servers, the
> organization of Python workshops, and other tasks in support of the
> Python community.  See <reference> for more info.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------


I, in my undying verbosity, need to increase the length by a line.  But i
think this increases the message by quite a bit - i spell out the
underlying purpose of the PSA, and even (cheating a bit) make it
unmistably clear that it is a not-for-profit organization.  Here's my
pass: 


 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 The (not-for-profit) Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!

 Python exists, and is free, thanks to contributed efforts of many people. 
 The PSA was created to maximize the results of those efforts, by helping
 to coordinate them.  For as little as $50 per year, you can help the PSA
 maintain: the python.org web, ftp, & email services; python workshops; and
 other python-community support mechanisms.  See <reference> for more info.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

(Realistically, it would expand to claim another line when the reference
is spelled out, and when the "not-for-profit" is, more properly, included
in the body rather than the head line.  Then again, the other version
probably would, also...)

Ken

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From guido@cnri.reston.va.us  Thu Sep  7 16:46:08 1995
From: guido@cnri.reston.va.us (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:46:08 -0400
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:35:45 EDT."
 <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907111147.25143J-100000@coil.nist.gov>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907111147.25143J-100000@coil.nist.gov>
Message-ID: <199509071546.LAA08602@monty>

>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  The (not-for-profit) Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!
> 
>  Python exists, and is free, thanks to contributed efforts of many people. 
>  The PSA was created to maximize the results of those efforts, by helping
>  to coordinate them.  For as little as $50 per year, you can help the PSA
>  maintain: the python.org web, ftp, & email services; python workshops; and
>  other python-community support mechanisms.  See <reference> for more info.
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> (Realistically, it would expand to claim another line when the reference
> is spelled out, and when the "not-for-profit" is, more properly, included
> in the body rather than the head line.  Then again, the other version
> probably would, also...)

Some of that could be moved to the longer message.  How about this:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!

Python exists thanks to the efforts of many people.  For as little as
$50 per year, you can help the PSA coordinate those efforts by
maintaining web, ftp and email services, organizing python workshops,
and supporting the Python community in other ways.  See <reference>
for more info.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

--Guido van Rossum <guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
URL: <http://www.python.org/~guido/>

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From guido@cnri.reston.va.us  Thu Sep  7 16:46:08 1995
From: guido@cnri.reston.va.us (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:46:08 -0400
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:35:45 EDT."
 <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907111147.25143J-100000@coil.nist.gov>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907111147.25143J-100000@coil.nist.gov>
Message-ID: <199509071546.LAA08602@monty>

>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  The (not-for-profit) Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!
> 
>  Python exists, and is free, thanks to contributed efforts of many people. 
>  The PSA was created to maximize the results of those efforts, by helping
>  to coordinate them.  For as little as $50 per year, you can help the PSA
>  maintain: the python.org web, ftp, & email services; python workshops; and
>  other python-community support mechanisms.  See <reference> for more info.
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> (Realistically, it would expand to claim another line when the reference
> is spelled out, and when the "not-for-profit" is, more properly, included
> in the body rather than the head line.  Then again, the other version
> probably would, also...)

Some of that could be moved to the longer message.  How about this:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!

Python exists thanks to the efforts of many people.  For as little as
$50 per year, you can help the PSA coordinate those efforts by
maintaining web, ftp and email services, organizing python workshops,
and supporting the Python community in other ways.  See <reference>
for more info.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

--Guido van Rossum <guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
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From guido@cnri.reston.va.us  Thu Sep  7 16:50:13 1995
From: guido@cnri.reston.va.us (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:50:13 -0400
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: Your message of "07 Sep 1995 11:32:40."
 <9509071533.AA3678@phoenix.cminds.com>
References: <9509071533.AA3678@phoenix.cminds.com>
Message-ID: <199509071550.LAA08613@monty>

> One thing that is needed for companies to join, I believe, 
> is some type of form that can act as an "invoice".  I had 
> trolled around, but couldn't find any examples.

Good point!

> What does the IETF give as a "receipt" or "invoice"?

The IETF doesn't have members.  When you come to an IETF conference
and pay your conference fee you get a receipt.  Shall I ask the CNRI
business office if they know anything about this, or shall we wait
till the first company asks us to provide something?  (Anyway, if this
would be a tax-deductible donation, wouldn't proof of writing the
check be enough?)

--Guido van Rossum <guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
URL: <http://www.python.org/~guido/>

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From ken.manheimer@nist.gov  Thu Sep  7 17:03:36 1995
From: ken.manheimer@nist.gov (Ken Manheimer)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:03:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: <199509071546.LAA08602@monty>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907115924.25143M-100000@coil.nist.gov>

> Some of that could be moved to the longer message.  How about this:
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!
> 
> Python exists thanks to the efforts of many people.  For as little as
> $50 per year, you can help the PSA coordinate those efforts by
> maintaining web, ftp and email services, organizing python workshops,
> and supporting the Python community in other ways.  See <reference>
> for more info.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pretty good.  I still think mentioning the fact that PSA is not-for-
profit, in the intro version, is important, so people know, unequivocally, 
that the message is not some kind of commercial advertising hook.  
Particularly important since we are asking for money...

Eg, changing one body line:

...
$50 per year, you can help the nonprofit PSA coordinate those efforts by
...

ken

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From Paul.Everitt@cminds.com  Thu Sep  7 13:06:36 1995
From: Paul.Everitt@cminds.com (Paul Everitt/Digital Creations)
Date: 7 Sep 95 12:06:36
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
Message-ID: <9509071607.AA3723@phoenix.cminds.com>

Guido wrote:
> Shall I ask the CNRI
> business office if they know anything about this, or shall we wait
> till the first company asks us to provide something?  (Anyway, if this
> would be a tax-deductible donation, wouldn't proof of writing the
> check be enough?)

Consider the first company asking :^).  We're gonna write a 
$250 check, but from our company.  To do this, we have to 
have something to write the check against (we don't do our 
accounting, long story).  Even if it is some off-the-net form 
that says we are joining the PSA, it should be enough.

--Paul


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From jfulton@usgs.gov  Wed Sep 13 14:22:43 1995
From: jfulton@usgs.gov (Jim Fulton, U.S. Geological Survey)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 09:22:43 -0400
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Harri Pasanen: [PYTHON GUI-SIG] hypermail archive of this list?
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Any chance that someone (Barry?) could set up hypermail archives for
all the sigs?

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From guido@cnri.reston.va.us  Thu Sep  7 15:30:16 1995
From: guido@cnri.reston.va.us (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 10:30:16 -0400
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
Message-ID: <199509071430.KAA08334@monty>

Yesterday, Bob reminded me again that not enough people (or rather,
hardly anybody) is signing up for the PSA.  We need to do something.
I propose to start campaigning.  There are three places where I think
we could put an ad in:

1) The www.python.org home page

2) The README file that comes with the Python source distribution

3) The mailing list / newsgroup

Actually (since nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition), there are
*four* places where we could put an ad in:

4) The FAQ

We need two pieces of text:

A) A *short* (2-5 lines, the shorter the better) blurb to attract
people's attention.  It should explain that we want people to write a
check for $50, what the benefits are, and where to find more
information.  This could be inserted in all four places.

B) A more elaborate text explaining what we want in some more detail.
This should be on the Web server in the "How to join the PSA" section
and could also be a separate file in the Misc directory in the source
distribution.  On the mailing list, it could be the second part of the
message.

Here are my cuts:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!

For as little as $50 a year, you can join the PSA.  The money goes
towards care and feeding of the PSA's web, ftp and email servers, the
organization of Python workshops, and other tasks in support of the
Python community.  See <reference> for more info.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Support the Python Software Activity!

The PSA needs money to maintain and improve its web, ftp and email
servers, to organize Python workshops, and to organize or coordinate
other activities in support of the Python community.

Individuals can join the PSA by making a donation of $50 a year.  More
is allowed.  Full-time students can join for only $25.  Companies and
organizations can join by donating $500 or more.  Donations will be
acknowledged on the PSA web server (unless anonimity is requested).

Checks should be made payable to "CNRI/PSA" and sent to the following
address:

	CNRI
	1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100
	Reston, Virginia 22091
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Comments, please, so we can start!

(Roj&Barry -- do you think we need to run this by Bob first?)

--Guido van Rossum <guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
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From cbs@ascinc.com  Thu Sep  7 15:49:09 1995
From: cbs@ascinc.com (Casper Stoel)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:49:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: <199509071430.KAA08334@monty> from "Guido van Rossum" at Sep 7, 95 10:30:16 am
Message-ID: <9509071451.AA25211@ascinc.com>

Guido van Rossum writes:
> 
> Yesterday, Bob reminded me again that not enough people (or rather,
> hardly anybody) is signing up for the PSA.  We need to do something.
> I propose to start campaigning.  There are three places where I think
> we could put an ad in:
> 
> 1) The www.python.org home page
> 
> 2) The README file that comes with the Python source distribution
> 
> 3) The mailing list / newsgroup
> 
> Actually (since nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition), there are
> *four* places where we could put an ad in:
> 
> 4) The FAQ

Talking about the inquisition... Why not have the default page of
Grail be a plug for membership? Add a secure server and hordes of
followers will grab their credit card and join (hey! stop laughing) 

Just an idea....

  Ir. Casper B. Stoel                   Alternative System Concepts Inc.
  email: cbs@ascinc.com                    PO Box 128, Windham, NH 03087
  URL  : http://www.ascinc.com     tel (603) 437-2234 fax (603) 437-2722


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From Paul.Everitt@cminds.com  Thu Sep  7 12:32:40 1995
From: Paul.Everitt@cminds.com (Paul Everitt/Digital Creations)
Date: 7 Sep 95 11:32:40
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
Message-ID: <9509071533.AA3678@phoenix.cminds.com>

One thing that is needed for companies to join, I believe, 
is some type of form that can act as an "invoice".  I had 
trolled around, but couldn't find any examples.

What does the IETF give as a "receipt" or "invoice"?

--Paul


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From ken.manheimer@nist.gov  Thu Sep  7 16:35:45 1995
From: ken.manheimer@nist.gov (Ken Manheimer)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 11:35:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: <199509071430.KAA08334@monty>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907111147.25143J-100000@coil.nist.gov>

On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Guido van Rossum wrote:

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!
> 
> For as little as $50 a year, you can join the PSA.  The money goes
> towards care and feeding of the PSA's web, ftp and email servers, the
> organization of Python workshops, and other tasks in support of the
> Python community.  See <reference> for more info.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------


I, in my undying verbosity, need to increase the length by a line.  But i
think this increases the message by quite a bit - i spell out the
underlying purpose of the PSA, and even (cheating a bit) make it
unmistably clear that it is a not-for-profit organization.  Here's my
pass: 


 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 The (not-for-profit) Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!

 Python exists, and is free, thanks to contributed efforts of many people. 
 The PSA was created to maximize the results of those efforts, by helping
 to coordinate them.  For as little as $50 per year, you can help the PSA
 maintain: the python.org web, ftp, & email services; python workshops; and
 other python-community support mechanisms.  See <reference> for more info.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

(Realistically, it would expand to claim another line when the reference
is spelled out, and when the "not-for-profit" is, more properly, included
in the body rather than the head line.  Then again, the other version
probably would, also...)

Ken

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From guido@cnri.reston.va.us  Thu Sep  7 16:46:08 1995
From: guido@cnri.reston.va.us (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:46:08 -0400
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:35:45 EDT."
 <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907111147.25143J-100000@coil.nist.gov>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907111147.25143J-100000@coil.nist.gov>
Message-ID: <199509071546.LAA08602@monty>

>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  The (not-for-profit) Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!
> 
>  Python exists, and is free, thanks to contributed efforts of many people. 
>  The PSA was created to maximize the results of those efforts, by helping
>  to coordinate them.  For as little as $50 per year, you can help the PSA
>  maintain: the python.org web, ftp, & email services; python workshops; and
>  other python-community support mechanisms.  See <reference> for more info.
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> (Realistically, it would expand to claim another line when the reference
> is spelled out, and when the "not-for-profit" is, more properly, included
> in the body rather than the head line.  Then again, the other version
> probably would, also...)

Some of that could be moved to the longer message.  How about this:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!

Python exists thanks to the efforts of many people.  For as little as
$50 per year, you can help the PSA coordinate those efforts by
maintaining web, ftp and email services, organizing python workshops,
and supporting the Python community in other ways.  See <reference>
for more info.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

--Guido van Rossum <guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
URL: <http://www.python.org/~guido/>

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From: guido@cnri.reston.va.us (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:46:08 -0400
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:35:45 EDT."
 <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907111147.25143J-100000@coil.nist.gov>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907111147.25143J-100000@coil.nist.gov>
Message-ID: <199509071546.LAA08602@monty>

>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  The (not-for-profit) Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!
> 
>  Python exists, and is free, thanks to contributed efforts of many people. 
>  The PSA was created to maximize the results of those efforts, by helping
>  to coordinate them.  For as little as $50 per year, you can help the PSA
>  maintain: the python.org web, ftp, & email services; python workshops; and
>  other python-community support mechanisms.  See <reference> for more info.
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> (Realistically, it would expand to claim another line when the reference
> is spelled out, and when the "not-for-profit" is, more properly, included
> in the body rather than the head line.  Then again, the other version
> probably would, also...)

Some of that could be moved to the longer message.  How about this:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!

Python exists thanks to the efforts of many people.  For as little as
$50 per year, you can help the PSA coordinate those efforts by
maintaining web, ftp and email services, organizing python workshops,
and supporting the Python community in other ways.  See <reference>
for more info.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

--Guido van Rossum <guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
URL: <http://www.python.org/~guido/>

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From guido@cnri.reston.va.us  Thu Sep  7 16:50:13 1995
From: guido@cnri.reston.va.us (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:50:13 -0400
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: Your message of "07 Sep 1995 11:32:40."
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Message-ID: <199509071550.LAA08613@monty>

> One thing that is needed for companies to join, I believe, 
> is some type of form that can act as an "invoice".  I had 
> trolled around, but couldn't find any examples.

Good point!

> What does the IETF give as a "receipt" or "invoice"?

The IETF doesn't have members.  When you come to an IETF conference
and pay your conference fee you get a receipt.  Shall I ask the CNRI
business office if they know anything about this, or shall we wait
till the first company asks us to provide something?  (Anyway, if this
would be a tax-deductible donation, wouldn't proof of writing the
check be enough?)

--Guido van Rossum <guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
URL: <http://www.python.org/~guido/>

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From ken.manheimer@nist.gov  Thu Sep  7 17:03:36 1995
From: ken.manheimer@nist.gov (Ken Manheimer)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:03:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
In-Reply-To: <199509071546.LAA08602@monty>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950907115924.25143M-100000@coil.nist.gov>

> Some of that could be moved to the longer message.  How about this:
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Python Software Activity (PSA) needs your donation!
> 
> Python exists thanks to the efforts of many people.  For as little as
> $50 per year, you can help the PSA coordinate those efforts by
> maintaining web, ftp and email services, organizing python workshops,
> and supporting the Python community in other ways.  See <reference>
> for more info.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pretty good.  I still think mentioning the fact that PSA is not-for-
profit, in the intro version, is important, so people know, unequivocally, 
that the message is not some kind of commercial advertising hook.  
Particularly important since we are asking for money...

Eg, changing one body line:

...
$50 per year, you can help the nonprofit PSA coordinate those efforts by
...

ken

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From Paul.Everitt@cminds.com  Thu Sep  7 13:06:36 1995
From: Paul.Everitt@cminds.com (Paul Everitt/Digital Creations)
Date: 7 Sep 95 12:06:36
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Encouraging PSA membership
Message-ID: <9509071607.AA3723@phoenix.cminds.com>

Guido wrote:
> Shall I ask the CNRI
> business office if they know anything about this, or shall we wait
> till the first company asks us to provide something?  (Anyway, if this
> would be a tax-deductible donation, wouldn't proof of writing the
> check be enough?)

Consider the first company asking :^).  We're gonna write a 
$250 check, but from our company.  To do this, we have to 
have something to write the check against (we don't do our 
accounting, long story).  Even if it is some off-the-net form 
that says we are joining the PSA, it should be enough.

--Paul


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From jfulton@usgs.gov  Wed Sep 13 14:22:43 1995
From: jfulton@usgs.gov (Jim Fulton, U.S. Geological Survey)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 09:22:43 -0400
Subject: [PYTHON META-SIG] Harri Pasanen: [PYTHON GUI-SIG] hypermail archive of this list?
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Any chance that someone (Barry?) could set up hypermail archives for
all the sigs?

Jim

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Are there any plans to make a hypermail archive of this list?

Take Care,

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