[META-SIG] Terminating comatose SIGs

[Greg Stein (Exchange)]

Having a time limit is quite fine with me. Yes, I am one of the
advocates of the close-to-dead thread-sig, but I also agree with the
assessment - kill the ones that go nowhere.

It is a bit frustrating to throw out a proposal of a few things for the
SIG to do and get zero replies. Quite sad, in fact.

In any case, once 1.5 is out the door and I actually manage to find some
time to deal with it, I want to release a new set of threading patches.
Hopefully, we can start up some discussions around that.

Regardless, I'd appreciate an extension :-). Let's say it's dead on May
1 unless significant progress is occurring. That gives us four months to
do something.

Thx
-g 

-----Original Message-----
From:	Guido van Rossum [SMTP:guido@CNRI.Reston.Va.US]
Sent:	Tuesday, December 16, 1997 11:03 AM
To:	meta-sig@python.org
Subject:	[META-SIG] Terminating comatose SIGs

I went through the various SIG archives, mostly at Findmail, and the
following sigs are clearly in coma (and have been for a long time).  I
think that comatose SIGs don't serve any purpose, and that these SIG
mailing lists should be terminated.  Their archives should be saved,
of course.

Here are the numbers of messages since August:

c++-sig (2 in Aug, 1 in Oct, 7 in Nov -- of which 2 spams and one
         reply to a spam)

locator-sig (0 in Aug-Oct, 1 in Nov, 6 in Dec)

objc-sig (0 in Aug, 8 in Sep, 4 in Oct, 2 in Dec)

pattern-sig (5 in Aug, 4 in Oct)

plot-sig (38 in Sep, 12 in Oct, 10 in Nov, 2 in Dec)

progenv-sig (2 in Aug, 1 in Nov, 1 in Dec)

thread-sig (2 in Aug, 19 in Sep, 9 in Nov, 2 in Dec)

web-sig (1 in Aug, 0 since)

With these traffic levels, you can't maintain that there is an
interest that warrants a separate SIG -- people interested in these
subjects are better off using the main list, where they are more
likely to reach other individuals with the same interests.

One could argue that there's still hope for the plot-sig and
thread-sig. Still, the trend is unmistakable -- they can be given an
extension of three months to get their act together.

I also really like Paul Prescod's idea for the proposed SGML SIG: a
fixed expiration time of 6 month, after which it is killed
automatically unless there's a proven interest to continue.  This
should be done for all SIGs, including the currently successful ones.

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

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