From deirdre@deirdre.net Tue Jun 1 18:05:53 1999 From: deirdre@deirdre.net (Deirdre Saoirse) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [meta-sig] It Was a Dark and Stormy Night.... In-Reply-To: <37526040.F12F9DCE@pivot.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 May 1999, Wayne wrote: > How am I going to know if my script works or not? To make matters worse > this example is used > for the next several chapters. Well, I said my peace, now back to > learning Python. I found the book extremely annoying and irritating for the reasons you mention. Internet Programming with Python and Learning Pyhon are MUCH better. _Deirdre * http://www.linuxcabal.org * http://www.deirdre.net "Perl is just not the answer to all problems. If all you have is a hammer, the whole world looks like your thumb." George Bonser on Python From da@ski.org Tue Jun 1 18:46:50 1999 From: da@ski.org (David Ascher) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:46:50 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Subject: [meta-sig] It Was a Dark and Stormy Night.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 1999, Wayne wrote: > > > How am I going to know if my script works or not? To make matters worse > > this example is used > > for the next several chapters. Well, I said my peace, now back to > > learning Python. > > I found the book extremely annoying and irritating for the reasons you > mention. Internet Programming with Python and Learning Pyhon are MUCH > better. Please keep the posts to meta-sig on topic: """ This SIG exists in order to discuss creation of and policies for PSA Special Interest Groups, and the mailing lists to support them. """ --david ascher From gerrit.holl@pobox.com Mon Jun 14 19:47:54 1999 From: gerrit.holl@pobox.com (Gerrit Holl) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:47:54 +0200 Subject: [meta-sig] WHY are all those sigs ending?? Message-ID: <19990614204754.A26177@optiplex.palga.uucp> Hello all, I was very happy when I saw all thos SIGs, but they are all retiring? WHY? XML-sig, DB-sig, Doc-sig, String-sig: if it's because there isn't interest: I'm interested! So why is it? regards, Gerrit. -- The Dutch Linuxgames website. De Nederlandse Linuxgames pagina. Everything about games on Linux. Alles over spelletjes onder Linux. Site address: http://linuxgames.nl.linux.org Personal homepage: http://nl.linux.org/~gerrit/ From guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Mon Jun 14 20:24:38 1999 From: guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US (Guido van Rossum) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:24:38 -0400 Subject: [meta-sig] WHY are all those sigs ending?? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:47:54 +0200." <19990614204754.A26177@optiplex.palga.uucp> References: <19990614204754.A26177@optiplex.palga.uucp> Message-ID: <199906141924.PAA01494@eric.cnri.reston.va.us> > I was very happy when I saw all thos SIGs, but they are all retiring? WHY? > XML-sig, DB-sig, Doc-sig, String-sig: if it's because there isn't interest: > I'm interested! Ah, this happens twice a year. In order to be able to recycle inactive SIGs, we regularly determine a new expiration date for each SIG. Typically, the expiration date is about half a year in the future. At the expiration date, the SIG's archives are inspected. If the SIG has been comatose or dead since the expiration time was last set, it is retired; otherwise, the expiration date is moved another 6 months. Some SIGs (e.g. the META SIG, which should never be retired) have different rules. While some of the SIGs are a bit slow, none look comatose or dead at the moment, so I propose to renew all SIGs expiring this month for another half year. Any objections? --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) From gstein@lyra.org Mon Jun 14 23:10:07 1999 From: gstein@lyra.org (Greg Stein) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:10:07 -0700 Subject: [meta-sig] Re: [meta-sig] WHY are all those sigs ending?? References: <19990614204754.A26177@optiplex.palga.uucp> <199906141924.PAA01494@eric.cnri.reston.va.us> Message-ID: <37657DBF.3455072F@lyra.org> Guido van Rossum wrote: >... > While some of the SIGs are a bit slow, none look comatose or dead at > the moment, so I propose to renew all SIGs expiring this month for > another half year. > > Any objections? None here. Thread-sig and DB-sig have seen quite a bit of traffic lately. String-SIG seems a bit slow, but that always sees traffic whenever Unicode and the next PCRE release come about (I will venture that we'll never be able to kill it off :-). Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ From deirdre@deirdre.net Tue Jun 1 18:05:53 1999 From: deirdre@deirdre.net (Deirdre Saoirse) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [meta-sig] It Was a Dark and Stormy Night.... In-Reply-To: <37526040.F12F9DCE@pivot.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 May 1999, Wayne wrote: > How am I going to know if my script works or not? To make matters worse > this example is used > for the next several chapters. Well, I said my peace, now back to > learning Python. I found the book extremely annoying and irritating for the reasons you mention. Internet Programming with Python and Learning Pyhon are MUCH better. _Deirdre * http://www.linuxcabal.org * http://www.deirdre.net "Perl is just not the answer to all problems. If all you have is a hammer, the whole world looks like your thumb." George Bonser on Python From da@ski.org Tue Jun 1 18:46:50 1999 From: da@ski.org (David Ascher) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:46:50 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Subject: [meta-sig] It Was a Dark and Stormy Night.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 1999, Wayne wrote: > > > How am I going to know if my script works or not? To make matters worse > > this example is used > > for the next several chapters. Well, I said my peace, now back to > > learning Python. > > I found the book extremely annoying and irritating for the reasons you > mention. Internet Programming with Python and Learning Pyhon are MUCH > better. Please keep the posts to meta-sig on topic: """ This SIG exists in order to discuss creation of and policies for PSA Special Interest Groups, and the mailing lists to support them. """ --david ascher From gerrit.holl@pobox.com Mon Jun 14 19:47:54 1999 From: gerrit.holl@pobox.com (Gerrit Holl) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:47:54 +0200 Subject: [meta-sig] WHY are all those sigs ending?? Message-ID: <19990614204754.A26177@optiplex.palga.uucp> Hello all, I was very happy when I saw all thos SIGs, but they are all retiring? WHY? XML-sig, DB-sig, Doc-sig, String-sig: if it's because there isn't interest: I'm interested! So why is it? regards, Gerrit. -- The Dutch Linuxgames website. De Nederlandse Linuxgames pagina. Everything about games on Linux. Alles over spelletjes onder Linux. Site address: http://linuxgames.nl.linux.org Personal homepage: http://nl.linux.org/~gerrit/ From guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Mon Jun 14 20:24:38 1999 From: guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US (Guido van Rossum) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:24:38 -0400 Subject: [meta-sig] WHY are all those sigs ending?? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:47:54 +0200." <19990614204754.A26177@optiplex.palga.uucp> References: <19990614204754.A26177@optiplex.palga.uucp> Message-ID: <199906141924.PAA01494@eric.cnri.reston.va.us> > I was very happy when I saw all thos SIGs, but they are all retiring? WHY? > XML-sig, DB-sig, Doc-sig, String-sig: if it's because there isn't interest: > I'm interested! Ah, this happens twice a year. In order to be able to recycle inactive SIGs, we regularly determine a new expiration date for each SIG. Typically, the expiration date is about half a year in the future. At the expiration date, the SIG's archives are inspected. If the SIG has been comatose or dead since the expiration time was last set, it is retired; otherwise, the expiration date is moved another 6 months. Some SIGs (e.g. the META SIG, which should never be retired) have different rules. While some of the SIGs are a bit slow, none look comatose or dead at the moment, so I propose to renew all SIGs expiring this month for another half year. Any objections? --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) From gstein@lyra.org Mon Jun 14 23:10:07 1999 From: gstein@lyra.org (Greg Stein) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:10:07 -0700 Subject: [meta-sig] Re: [meta-sig] WHY are all those sigs ending?? References: <19990614204754.A26177@optiplex.palga.uucp> <199906141924.PAA01494@eric.cnri.reston.va.us> Message-ID: <37657DBF.3455072F@lyra.org> Guido van Rossum wrote: >... > While some of the SIGs are a bit slow, none look comatose or dead at > the moment, so I propose to renew all SIGs expiring this month for > another half year. > > Any objections? None here. Thread-sig and DB-sig have seen quite a bit of traffic lately. String-SIG seems a bit slow, but that always sees traffic whenever Unicode and the next PCRE release come about (I will venture that we'll never be able to kill it off :-). Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/