1) Jeremy, any final verdict on the persistence-sig? Retire it or extend it to June 2004? 2) Web-SIG: there seemed general agreement that it was a good idea. Shall we move ahead on it, then? (I've created a Wiki page, http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/WebSIGTasks, and listed the items brought up in this thread. Feel free to update/modify.) --amk