[Mobile-sig] Experiments with Dalvik

Joao S. O. Bueno gwidion at gmail.com
Tue May 17 15:15:04 EDT 2016

The point of the toolset David just borught up is not just about 'an
entire oher language' - it is a toolset for being able to manipulate
android assets, and that is in Python.

And the new language, that comes up for free, is different from Kivy
and other approaches, in the sense it compiles python-like source ode
directly to Dalvik bytecode - it is not the same as(1) building Python
natively on Android, and not the same as emulating Python over Java.

I don't think replying to someone who is bringing a totally cool,
months long project, with lots of tools, innovations and possibilities
with "you could have used X"  is anything constructive - at least not
if one does not at least take a look on what is being presented.

I don't think Kivy is good for getting performatic, or native-looking
apps, when talking about Python, for example. And also, the tools to
handle android assets in this repo could even be used to replace the
need for Android SDK when building Kivy based apps.


On 17 May 2016 at 15:36, Bill Janssen <janssen at parc.com> wrote:
> In case you weren't aware, you can just write Android apps and services
> in Python, using Kivy.  No need to invent another language.
> Bill
> Joao S. O. Bueno <gwidion at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing that.
>> On 17 May 2016 at 13:05, David Boddie <david at boddie.org.uk> wrote:
>> > In a belated attempt to jump on the Android bandwagon I started to look
>> > into learning Java and the Android APIs. I realised very quickly that I
>> > couldn't face writing a lot of code in that language. Looking around for
>> > other languages running on the Dalvik VM, I found a few that might be nicer
>> > than Java, but I wasn't so sure that I wanted to write in any of those,
>> > either.
>> ...
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