[Moin-user] sharing accounts between two wikis

Andrew Premdas Andrew.Premdas at manchester.ac.uk
Tue Nov 2 02:48:15 EST 2004

As an admin you can create a template with the ACL's you want. The only
problem is to get the teachers to use the template, and not just create a
default page. By not giving the teachers admin rights you avoid the problems
of them understanding ACL's.

You can comment the ACL in your template and give instructions e.g.

 #acl whatever
 ## start writing you page below here, don't touch anything above here ## 

An alternative might be to setup your default ACL's to be restrictive for
all pages and then create templates which overide and open up these defaults
for pages that are visible/editable to more users e.g.


Putting a detailed explanation in each template might also be useful.

Templates should mean that you don't have to set ACL's for people. Finally
you might want to give teachers delete rights so that if they use a wrong
template they can delete the page and recreate it using a different
template, which will be easier than you having to change the ACL.

All best


Andrew Premdas
Student Systems Developer
Manchester University

Andrew Premdas
Student Systems Developer
Manchester University

-----Original Message-----
From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Jordan Johnson
Sent: 29 October 2004 23:20
To: MoinMoin user list
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] sharing accounts between two wikis

On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 11:43  AM, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
>> Is there a way I could share teacher accounts between two wiki 
>> instances, so that the same person can log onto either one?  Or would 
>> I likely be better off putting something together with ACLs and using 
>> only one wiki instance?
> You should easily be able to configure access controls using ACLs.
> Make a TeacherGroup, and put the teacher user accounts in it, giving 
> it the appropriate powers.

OK, that's encouraging; I'd already gotten that far.  Here's a more pointed
question about where I'm thinking of going, then:

Is it possible to have the default ACLs for one set of pages be different
from those of another?  Something like a template?  Thing is, I suspect that
the other teachers will find it to be too much trouble if they have to deal
with setting ACLs themselves (not something I want while trying to convince
them that this shiny new technology is a Good Thing).  Also, I don't want to
have to manually set the ACL for any new page a teacher creates, and I don't
want a privacy-crucial ACL line to be deleted accidentally.

It seems to me that this last requirement could be assured by disabling
admin privilege for the teachers, but that would basically be equivalent to
forcing me to set all ACLs manually, right?  (Meaning that the only solution
would be to teach the other teachers how to set ACLs themselves?)

This was the train of thought that led me to considering a second wiki
instance...I'm just looking for the way to do this with minimal admin
headache-inducement potential...


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measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them.
		-- Frederick Douglass

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