[Moin-user] Change bars / formatting for email threads?
conal at conal.net
Thu Oct 12 17:33:40 EDT 2006
Hi Rick. Thanks very much for the suggested template. I like the
simplicity and friendliness, though I'd prefer something non-linear over
I've been wondering about how to support non-linear conversations well.
Maybe something along the lines of TiddlyWiki (and ZiddlyWiki and other
offshoots) would be a better fit than a traditional wiki.
Going further, I'd like to enable people to select any word or passage and
provide comments, which themselves may be read and commented on in the same
way, recursively. Seems an obvious idea, but I haven't seen such a thing.
Has anyone else? I don't know how to handle spatial organization to allow
non-linearity but still help the participants have a sense of context (i.e.,
not jumping from page to page). For that purpose, again, TiddlyWiki again
appeals to me.
On 10/12/06, Rick Vanderveer <rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com> wrote:
> I agree that nestable block quotes would be pretty slick (much like
> slashdot.org forums). For now, we just create a new page for each new
> topic. But that may be awkward for your application. I made it easy by
> making the discussion page a template (DiscussionPageTemplate), like so:
> = Let's Talk! =
> . (!) Did you know you can get notified by email whenever someone adds a
> new comment? Simply click the 'subscribe' link above!
> Discussion for '''General Content'''
> ''There are [[PageComment(countonly=1)]] comments so far.''
> *From:* conal.elliott at gmail.com [mailto:conal.elliott at gmail.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Conal Elliott
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:47 PM
> *To:* Rick Vanderveer
> *Cc:* moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Moin-user] Change bars / formatting for email threads?
> Hi Rick. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try out PageComment2, and I
> like it, though it's not what I'm looking for, in that it doesn't allow
> comments on comments.
> TiddlyWiki has nestable block quotes, which is more like what I'm thinking
> of. In MoinMoin wikis, I've seen how people simply use increasing nesting
> for each level of reply, which is the opposite of the email convention.
> Maybe that's good enough for now.
> - Conal
> On 10/10/06, Rick Vanderveer < rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com> wrote:
> > I implemented 'PageComment2' (running moinmoin 1.5.5a) and people
> > here love it. Not sure if this is exactly what you're describing,
> > but it's very similar to a typical web forum.
> > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/PageComment2
> > -Rick
> > On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Conal Elliott wrote:
> > > I'd like to display some conversations wiki pages, and I'm
> > > wondering what the options are. One model is progressive
> > > indentation as in point-by-point responses in email threads, marked
> > > off by vertical bars (or ">" in ascii) on the left, repeated to
> > > indicate how many messages ago an excerpt is from. Does anyone
> > > have magic for an effect like this in MoinMoin?
> > >
> > > On the other hand, the email thread model is maybe not such a great
> > > one. Comments are common in wikis, aren't they? And what about
> > > responses-to-comments, etc? Are there some ways to render and/or
> > > structure such conversations? Maybe some kind of branching (non-
> > > linear) structure of content. Beyond wikis?
> > >
> > > Ideas? Pointers?
> > >
> > > Thanks, - Conal
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