[Numpy-discussion] Numeric3

Colin J. Williams cjw at sympatico.ca
Thu Feb 10 13:46:45 EST 2005

Travis Oliphant wrote:

> Perry Greenfield wrote
>> In our view the issue isn't who owns the array package but
>> getting one that satisfies the needs of the great majority.
>> We are not sure how feasible the approach Travis is using is so we 
>> are taking a wait-and-see position on it. We hope he
>> is successful in achieving these goals.
> I've known it was a risk from the beginning, and I don't expect people 
> to believe me until I can "show them the code."
>> We intend to stay engaged in design and interface discussions
>> with Travis, and encourage any others that have a stake in
>> numarray capabilities to do so as well.
> Thanks for the email, Perry.
> Toward that end, I would really appreciate knowing from anybody who 
> understands, which C-API calls are seen as most relevant and new.
> For example, after the discussion on this list, I can understand that 
> having the ability to "copy-back to a mis-behaved object" can be 
> useful, and it has pointed out holes in the Numeric API (holes which 
> we all know are there).   I still don't know about having three 
> different API calls to do it (instead of just a flag in the requires 
> argument).
> Over the next few weeks, I will be putting together a PEP-like 
> document.  This PEP will essentially discuss the behavior of the 
> arrayobject that we would like to see in the Python core.    I will 
> need lots of feedback and help with it, so I will post it to the 
> Numeric page as it develops.    There are a couple of unresolved 
> issues that need comments.  Hopefully, the PEP will help sort those 
> out.   I think though, there are only a couple of issues.  And I'm 
> confident these can be worked out satisfactorily.   I have no plans to 
> submit the PEP until it has received attention from everybody interested.
> Best regards to all,
> -Travis Oliphant

I am glad to see that the suggestion from Martin Loewis regarding the 
PEP approach is being taken up and hope that an early draft will be 
posted to c.l.p,

Colin W.

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