[Numpy-discussion] Removing datetime support for 1.4.x series ?

Charles R Harris charlesr.harris at gmail.com
Mon Feb 8 22:53:07 EST 2010


On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Darren Dale <dsdale24 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Charles R Harris
> <charlesr.harris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Darren Dale <dsdale24 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Robert Kern <robert.kern at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 21:23, Darren Dale <dsdale24 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Robert Kern <robert.kern at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 20:50, Darren Dale <dsdale24 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Robert Kern <robert.kern at gmail.com
> >
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 18:43, Darren Dale <dsdale24 at gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Robert Kern <
> robert.kern at gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> Here's the problem that I don't think many people appreciate:
> >> >>>>>>> logical
> >> >>>>>>> arguments suck just as much as personal experience in answering
> >> >>>>>>> these
> >> >>>>>>> questions. You can make perfectly structured arguments until you
> >> >>>>>>> are
> >> >>>>>>> blue in the face, but without real data to premise them on, they
> >> >>>>>>> are
> >> >>>>>>> no better than the gut feelings. They can often be significantly
> >> >>>>>>> worse
> >> >>>>>>> if the strength of the logic gets confused with the strength of
> >> >>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>> premise.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> If I recall correctly, the convention of not breaking ABI
> >> >>>>>> compatibility in minor releases was established in response to
> the
> >> >>>>>> last ABI compatibility break. Am I wrong?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I'm not sure how this relates to the material quoted of me, but
> no,
> >> >>>>> you're not wrong.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Just trying to provide historical context to support the strength
> of
> >> >>>> the premise.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The existence of the policy is not under question (anymore; I
> settled
> >> >>> that with old email a while ago). The question is whether to change
> >> >>> the policy.
> >> >>
> >> >> So I have gathered. I question whether the concerns that lead to that
> >> >> decision in the first place are somehow less important now.
> >> >
> >> > And we're back to gut feeling territory again.
> >>
> >> That's unfair. I can't win based on gut, you know how skinny I am.
> >> __
> >
> > We haven't reached the extreme of the two physicists at SLAC who stepped
> > outside to settle a point with fisticuffs. But with any luck we will get
> > there ;)
>
> Really? That also happened here at CHESS a long time ago, only they
> didn't go outside to fight over who got to use the conference room.
> ______
>

Heh. I can't vouch for the story personally, I got it from a guy who was a
grad student back in the day working on a detector at Fermilab along with a
cast of hundreds.

Chuck
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