# [Numpy-discussion] matrix norm

Warren Weckesser warren.weckesser at enthought.com
Mon Oct 22 12:09:24 EDT 2012

```On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Charles R Harris <
charlesr.harris at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Jason Grout <jason-sage at creativetrax.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm curious why scipy/numpy defaults to calculating the Frobenius norm
>> for matrices , when Matlab, Octave, and Mathematica all default to
>> calculating the induced 2-norm .  Is it solely because the Frobenius
>> norm is easier to calculate, or is there some other good mathematical
>> reason for doing things differently?
>>
>>
> Looks to me like Matlab, Octave, and Mathematica all default to the
> Frobenius norm .
>

Not octave:

octave-3.4.0:26> a = [1 2; 3 4]
a =

1   2
3   4

The default norm (for a 2x2 matrix) is the spectral norm:

octave-3.4.0:27> norm(a)
ans =  5.4650
octave-3.4.0:28> norm(a, 2)
ans =  5.4650
octave-3.4.0:29> svd(a)(1)
ans =  5.4650

not the Frobenius norm:

octave-3.4.0:30> norm(a, 'fro')
ans =  5.4772
octave-3.4.0:31> sqrt(sum(sum(a.**2)))
ans =  5.4772

Warren

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