[Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

[Julian Taylor]

On 05.07.2014 19:11, David Cournapeau wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Julian Taylor
> <jtaylor.debian at googlemail.com <mailto:jtaylor.debian at googlemail.com>>
> wrote:
> 
>     On 05.07.2014 18:40, David Cournapeau wrote:
>     > The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are
>     > talking about adding entries to a list in most cases...
>     >
>     > Also, while adding the optimization support for bento, I've
>     noticed that
>     > a lot of the related distutils code is broken, and does not work as
>     > expected on at least OS X + clang.
> 
>     It just spits out a lot of warnings but they are harmless.
> 
> 
> Adding lots of warnings are not harmless as they render the compiler
> warning system near useless (too many false alarms).
> 

true but until now we haven't received a single complaint nor fixes so
probably not many developers are actually using macs/clang to work on
numpy C code.
But I do agree its bad and I have fixing that on my todo list, I didn't
get around to it yet.

> I will fix the checks for both distutils and bento (using the autoconf
> macros setup, which should be more reliable than what we use for builtin
> and __attribute__-related checks)
> 
> David
>  
> 
>     We could remove them by using with -Werror=attribute for the conftests
>     if it really bothers someone.
>     Or do you mean something else?
> 
>     >
>     > David
>     >
>     >
>     > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Nathaniel Smith <njs at pobox.com
>     <mailto:njs at pobox.com>
>     > <mailto:njs at pobox.com <mailto:njs at pobox.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau
>     <cournape at gmail.com <mailto:cournape at gmail.com>
>     >     <mailto:cournape at gmail.com <mailto:cournape at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith
>     <njs at pobox.com <mailto:njs at pobox.com>
>     >     <mailto:njs at pobox.com <mailto:njs at pobox.com>>> wrote:
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Maybe bento will revive and take over the new python
>     packaging world!
>     >     >> Maybe not. Maybe something else will. I don't see how our
>     support for
>     >     >> it will really affect these outcomes in any way. And I
>     especially
>     >     >> don't see why it's important to spend time *now* on keeping
>     bento
>     >     >> working, just in case it becomes useful *later*.
>     >     >
>     >     > But it is working right now, so that argument is moot.
>     >
>     >     My suggestion was that we should drop the rule that a patch has to
>     >     keep bento working to be merged. We're talking about future
>     breakages
>     >     and future effort. The fact that it's working now doesn't say
>     anything
>     >     about whether it's worth continuing to invest time in it.
>     >
>     >     --
>     >     Nathaniel J. Smith
>     >     Postdoctoral researcher - Informatics - University of Edinburgh
>     >     http://vorpus.org
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