[Numpy-discussion] State-of-the-art to use a C/C++ library from Python

Ian Henriksen insertinterestingnamehere at gmail.com
Wed Aug 31 14:17:56 EDT 2016


We use Cython very heavily in DyND's Python bindings. It has worked well
for us
even when working with some very modern C++. That said, a lot depends on
exactly which C++ features you want to expose as a part of the interface.
Interfaces that require things like non-type template parameters or variadic
templates will often require a some extra C++ code to work them in to
something
that Cython can understand. In my experience, those particular limitations
haven't
been that hard to work with.
Best,
Ian Henriksen

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:20 PM Jason Newton <nevion at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just wanted to follow up on the C++ side of OP email - Cython has quite
> a few difficulties working with C++ code at the moment.  It's really more
> of a C solution most of the time and you must split things up into a mostly
> C call interface (that is the C code Cython can call) and limit
> exposure/complications with templates and  complex C++11+ constructs.  This
> may change in the longer term but in the near, that is the state.
>
> I used to use Boost.Python but I'm getting my feet wet with Pybind (which
> is basically the same api but works more as you expect it to with it's
> signature/type plumbing  (including std::shared_ptr islanding), with some
> other C++11 based improvements, and is header only + submodule friendly!).
> I also remembered ndarray thanks to Neal's post but I haven't figured out
> how to leverage it better than pybind, at the moment.  I'd be interested to
> see ndarray gain support for pybind interoperability...
>
> -Jason
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Morris <othalan at othalan.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Michael Bieri <mibieri at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> There are several ways on how to use C/C++ code from Python with NumPy,
>>> as given in http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/user/c-info.html .
>>> Furthermore, there's at least pybind11.
>>>
>>> I'm not quite sure which approach is state-of-the-art as of 2016. How
>>> would you do it if you had to make a C/C++ library available in Python
>>> right now?
>>>
>>> In my case, I have a C library with some scientific functions on
>>> matrices and vectors. You will typically call a few functions to configure
>>> the computation, then hand over some pointers to existing buffers
>>> containing vector data, then start the computation, and finally read back
>>> the data. The library also can use MPI to parallelize.
>>>
>>
>> I have been delighted with Cython for this purpose.  Great integration
>> with NumPy (you can access numpy arrays directly as C arrays), very python
>> like syntax and amazing performance.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> David
>>
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