[Numpy-discussion] Vendorize tempita

Charles R Harris charlesr.harris at gmail.com
Fri Sep 30 20:42:28 EDT 2016


On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Charles R Harris <
charlesr.harris at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Charles R Harris <
> charlesr.harris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Evgeni Burovski <
>> evgeny.burovskiy at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Charles R Harris
>>> <charlesr.harris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Benjamin Root <ben.v.root at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> This is the first I am hearing of tempita (looks to be a templating
>>> >> language). How is it a dependency of numpy? Do I now need tempita in
>>> order
>>> >> to use numpy, or is it a build-time-only dependency?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Build time only. The virtue of tempita is that it can be used to
>>> generate
>>> > cython sources. We could adapt one of our current templating scripts
>>> to do
>>> > that also, but that would seem to be more work. Note that tempita is
>>> > currently included in cython, but the cython folks consider that an
>>> > implemention detail that should not be depended upon.
>>> >
>>> > <snip>
>>> >
>>> > Chuck
>>> >
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>>>
>>> Ideally, it's packaged in such a way that it's usable for scipy too --
>>> at the moment it's used in scipy.sparse via Cython.Tempita + a
>>> fallback to system installed tempita if Cython.Tempita is not
>>> available (however I'm not sure that fallback is ever exercised).
>>> Since scipy needs to support numpy down to 1.8.2, a vendorized copy
>>> will not be usable for scipy for quite a while.
>>>
>>> So, it'd be great to handle it like numpydoc: to have npy_tempita as a
>>> small self-contained package with the repo under the numpy
>>> organization and include it via a git submodule. Chuck, do you think
>>> tempita would need much in terms of maintenance?
>>>
>>> To put some money where my mouth is, I can offer to do some legwork
>>> for packaging it up.
>>>
>>>
>> It might be better to keep tempita and cythonize together so that the
>> search path works out right. It is also possible that other scripts might
>> be wanted as cythonize is currently restricted to cython files (*.pyx.in,
>> *.pxi.in). There are two other templating scripts in numpy/distutils,
>> and I think f2py has a dependency on one of those.
>>
>> If there is a set of tools that would be common to both scipy and numpy,
>> having them included as a submodule would be a good idea.
>>
>>
> Hmm, I suppose it just depends on where submodule is, so a npy_tempita
> alone would work fine.  There isn't much maintenance needed if you resist
> the urge to refactor the code. I removed a six dependency, but that is now
> upstream as well.
>

There don't seem to be any objections, so I will put the current
vendorization in. Evgeni, if you think it a good idea to make a repo for
this and use submodules, go ahead with that. I have left out the testing
infrastructure at https://github.com/gjhiggins/tempita which runs a sparse
set of doctests.

Chuck
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