[Numpy-discussion] pytest and degrees of separation.

[Chris Barker]

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Thomas Caswell <tcaswell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Going with option 2 is probably the best option so that you can use pytest
> fixtures and parameterization.
>

I agree -- those are worth a lot!

-CHB



> Might be worth looking at how Matplotlib re-arranged things on our master
> branch to maintain back-compatibility with nose-specific tools that were
> used by down-stream projects.
>
> Tom
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:22 PM Sebastian Berg <sebastian at sipsolutions.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 14:49 -0600, Charles R Harris wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Just looking for opinions and feedback on the need to keep NumPy from
>> > having a hard nose/pytest dependency. The options as I see them are:
>> >
>> > pytest is never imported until the tests are run -- current practice
>> > with nose
>> > pytest is never imported unless the testfiles are imported -- what I
>> > would like
>> > pytest is imported together when numpy is -- what we need to avoid.
>> > Currently the approach has been 1), but I think 2) makes more sense
>> > and allows more flexibility.
>>
>>
>> I am not quite sure about everything here. My guess is we can do
>> whatever we want when it comes to our own tests, and I don't mind just
>> switching everything to pytest (I for one am happy as long as I can run
>> `runtests.py` ;)).
>> When it comes to the utils we provide, those should keep working
>> without nose/pytest if they worked before without it I think.
>>
>> My guess is that all your options do that, so I think we should take
>> the one that gives the nicest maintainable code :). Though can't say I
>> looked enough into it to really make a well educated decision, that
>> probably means your option 2.
>>
>> - Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>> > Thoughts?
>> > Chuck
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