[Numpy-discussion] Dropping support for Accelerate

Ilhan Polat ilhanpolat at gmail.com
Sun Jul 23 12:07:18 EDT 2017


Ouch, that's from 2012 :(  I'll add this thread as a reference to the wiki
list.


On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Nathan Goldbaum <nathan12343 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> See https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/
> 2012-August/063589.html and replies in that thread.
>
> Quote from an Apple engineer in that thread:
>
> "For API outside of POSIX, including GCD and technologies like Accelerate,
> we do not support usage on both sides of a fork(). For this reason among
> others, use of fork() without exec is discouraged in general in processes
> that use layers above POSIX."
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Ilhan Polat <ilhanpolat at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> That's probably because I know nothing about the issue, is there any
>> reference I can read about?
>>
>> But in general, please feel free populate new items in the wiki page.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Nathaniel Smith <njs at pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been wishing we'd stop shipping Accelerate for years, because of
>>> how it breaks multiprocessing – that doesn't seem to be on your list
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 3:50 AM, Ilhan Polat <ilhanpolat at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > A few months ago, I had the innocent intention to wrap LDLt
>>> decomposition
>>> > routines of LAPACK into SciPy but then I am made aware that the minimum
>>> > required version of LAPACK/BLAS was due to Accelerate framework. Since
>>> then
>>> > I've been following the core SciPy team and others' discussion on this
>>> > issue.
>>> >
>>> > We have been exchanging opinions for quite a while now within various
>>> SciPy
>>> > issues and PRs about the ever-increasing Accelerate-related issues and
>>> I've
>>> > compiled a brief summary about the ongoing discussions to reduce the
>>> > clutter.
>>> >
>>> > First, I would like to kindly invite everyone to contribute and
>>> sharpen the
>>> > cases presented here
>>> >
>>> > https://github.com/scipy/scipy/wiki/Dropping-support-for-Accelerate
>>> >
>>> > The reason I specifically wanted to post this also in NumPy mailing
>>> list is
>>> > to probe for the situation from the NumPy-Accelerate perspective. Is
>>> there
>>> > any NumPy specific problem that would indirectly effect SciPy should
>>> the
>>> > support for Accelerate is dropped?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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