[Numpy-discussion] UC Berkeley hiring developers to work on NumPy

Sebastian Berg sebastian at sipsolutions.net
Mon May 22 13:04:06 EDT 2017


On Mon, 2017-05-22 at 17:35 +0100, Matthew Brett wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Marten van Kerkwijk
> <m.h.vankerkwijk at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Matthew,
> > 
> > > it seems to me that we could get 80% of the way to a reassuring
> > > blueprint with a relatively small amount of effort.
> > 
> > My sentence "adapt the typical academic rule for conflicts of
> > interests to PRs, that non-trivial ones cannot be merged by someone
> > who has a conflict of interest with the author, i.e., it cannot be
> > a
> > superviser, someone from the same institute, etc." was meant as a
> > suggestion for part of this blueprint!
> > 
> > I'll readily admit, though, that since I'm not overly worried, I
> > haven't even looked at the policies that are in place, nor do I
> > intend
> > to contribute much beyond this e-mail. Indeed, it may be that the
> > old
> > adage "every initiative is punishable" holds here...
> 
> I understand what you're saying, but I think a more helpful way of
> thinking of it, is putting the groundwork in place for the most
> fruitful possible collaboration.
> 
> > would you, or one
> > of the others who feels it is important to have a blueprint, be
> > willing to provide a concrete text for discussion?
> 
> It doesn't make sense for me to do that, I'm #13 for commits in the
> last year.  I'm just one of the many people who completely depend on
> numpy.  Also, taking a little time to think these things through
> seems
> like a small investment with the potential for significant gain, in
> terms of improving communication and mitigating risk.
> 
> So, I think my suggestion is that it would be a good idea for
> Nathaniel and the current steering committee to talk through how this
> is going to play out, how the work will be selected and directed, and
> so on.
> 

Frankly, I would suggest to wait for now and ask whoever is going to
get the job to work out how they think it should be handled. And then
we complain if we expect more/better ;).
For now I only would say that I will expect more community type of work
then we now often manage to do. And things such as meticulously
sticking to writing NEPs.
So the only thing I can see that might be good is putting "community
work" or something like it specifically as part of the job description,
and thats up to Nathaniel probably.

Some things like not merging large changes by two people sittings in
the same office should be obvious (and even if it happens, we can
revert). But its nothing much new there I think.

- Sebastian


> Cheers,
> 
> Matthew
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