[Numpy-discussion] Adoption of a Code of Conduct

[Ian Henriksen]

This. Even from a US perspective, we really need to not let political
division into even more apparently non-political things. As far as I can
tell, the current language seems to be there to specifically avoid that. It
isn't there to allow discrimination if someone tries to claim they're
making a political statement.

Best,

Ian

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:58 AM Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Nathan Goldbaum <nathan12343 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Nathan Goldbaum <nathan12343 at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I realize this was probably brought up in the discussions about the
>>>>> scipy code of conduct which I have not looked at, but I’m troubled by the
>>>>> inclusion of “political beliefs” in the document.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was not brought up explicitly as far as I remember.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> See e.g.
>>>>> https://github.com/jupyter/governance/pull/5
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's about moving names around. I don't see any mention of political
>>>> beliefs?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry about that, I elided the 6. This is the correct link:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/jupyter/governance/pull/56
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, that's useful context for your question.
>>
>> I'm personally not too attached to "political belief", but I think the
>> discussion in that PR and in the OSCON context is very US-centric and
>> reflective of the polarized atmosphere there.
>>
>> If everyone is fine with removing political beliefs then I'm fine with
>> that, but I don't think that the argument itself (from a non-US
>> perspective) has much merit.
>>
>
> I'm strongly opposed to removing it. The last thing I want is to have
> politics brought into NumPy development, which is where this discussion is
> already headed. It could get ugly fast.
>
> Chuck
>
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