[Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

Stephen Waterbury waterbug at pangalactic.us
Thu May 2 21:45:00 EDT 2019

I am a NASA pythonista (for 20+ years ;), but you can now say you know
yet another person at NASA who has no idea this even exists ... :)
Not only do I not know of that, but I know of NASA policies that make
it very difficult for NASA civil servants to contribute to open source
projects -- quite hypocritical, given the amount of open source
code that NASA (like all other large organizations) depends critically
on, but it's a fact.

Steve Waterbury

THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AS A WHOLE!  Hence the personal email
address. :)

On 5/2/19 9:31 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote:

> Sounds like this is a NASA specific thing, in which case, I guess 
> someone at NASA would need to step up.
> I’m afraid I know no pythonistas at NASA.
> But I’ll poke around NOAA to see if there’s anything similar.
> -CHB
> On Apr 25, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com 
> <mailto:ralf.gommers at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:41 PM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:ralf.gommers at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:03 PM Joe Harrington
>>     <jh at physics.ucf.edu <mailto:jh at physics.ucf.edu>> wrote:
>>         3. There's such a thing as a share-in-savings contract at
>>         NASA, in which
>>         you calculate a savings, such as from avoided costs of
>>         licensing IDL or
>>         Matlab, and say you'll develop a replacement for that product
>>         that costs
>>         less, in exchange for a portion of the savings.  These are
>>         rare and few
>>         people know about them, but one presenter to the committee
>>         did discuss
>>         them and thought they'd be appropriate. I've always felt that
>>         we could
>>         get a chunk of change this way, and was surprised to find
>>         that the
>>         approach exists and has a name.  About 3 of 4 people I talk
>>         to at NASA
>>         have no idea this even exists, though, and I haven't pursued
>>         it to its
>>         logical end to see if it's viable.
>>     I've heard of these. Definitely worth looking into.
>> It seems to be hard to find any information about these 
>> share-in-savings contracts. The closest thing I found is this: 
>> https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/06/22/2018-13463/nasa-federal-acquisition-regulation-supplement-removal-of-reference-to-the-shared-savings-policy-and
>> It is called "Shared Savings" there, and was replaced last year by 
>> something called "Value Engineering Change Proposal". If anyone can 
>> comment on whether that's the same thing as Joe meant and whether 
>> this is worth following up on, that would be very helpful.
>> Cheers,
>> Ralf
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