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</span><span lang="en-NL">NEP 29 says December 2021, so that'd be kind of borderline. It would allow us to use positional-only parameters, which would be quite useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There is currently also a substantial amount of version checks in `numpy.typing` that we could get rid of with python >= 3.8.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Bas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> NumPy-Discussion <numpy-discussion-bounces+bas.vanbeek=hotmail.com@python.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ralf Gommers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:15<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of Numerical Python <numpy-discussion@python.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposals for NumPy 1.22.0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="en-NL">On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 8:19 PM Charles R Harris <<a href="mailto:charlesr.harris@gmail.com">charlesr.harris@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="en-NL">Here are some proposals for the NumPy 1.22.0 release currently in development.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="en-NL">NEP 29 says December 2021, so that'd be kind of borderline. It would allow us to use positional-only parameters, which would be quite useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="en-NL">Drop manylinux1 wheels.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="en-NL">yes, and yes <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="en-NL">Seems fine I guess. Is there a lot of demand?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="en-NL">Also something I'm not sure about is if we can mix two versions (one ILP64, one regular) of OpenBLAS in a numpy and a scipy wheel, and load them both. It seems to work, but perhaps that's accidental today?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="en-NL">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="en-NL">Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="en-NL">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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