[omaha] Meeting this Monday

Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T jeffh at dundeemt.com
Tue Nov 22 15:34:42 CET 2011 

I've posted my topic notes up to the group's site,
http://www.omahapython.org -- nothing spectacular, I just walked the group
through importing the webdriver, navigating to a page, finding elements,
send_keys and submit.  Then I walked them through the error messages for
elementnotfound.

There is only so much time and attention but this topic is just waiting for
more presentations.  I didn't cover using integration with unit testing (I
am a nose fan.) Or more advanced topics like converting tests from a
selenium1-rc with it's directives like, assertElementPresent  to
re-implementing them with webdriver and python.  Although, we did cover
enough in the meeting that the solution should be easily discoverable.

Maybe you can make an upcoming meeting, it is a very good thing when we
have more than 1 person who has used a tool/project/library in production.
 The conversations can easily redirect themselves into unexpected and
productive places.  Currently, our biggest meeting short coming is not have
a projector to make it easier for people to see code, so we gravitate
towards "follow me" type presentations where the presenter leads everyone
else through the presentation with each person having an interpreter open
typing the commands and experiencing the knowledge first hand.  It's a
trade-off, I kind of like the follow me style but it does require everyone
to have access to a laptop, etc or people ready to share with those who
didn't bring one and you need to keep the demonstrations short and easy to
type.

If you have specific questions about webdriver maybe we should start
another thread on it.  I'd be happy to answer with what I know, have done
and also where I think I need more knowledge/info.

Best,

Jeff
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Kyle Korbel <kyle.s.korbel at gmail.com>wrote:

> All,
> I'm not going to be able to make it to the meet up tonight.  Going
> home first never works out.  I would love to see any written info you
> might have.  If you don't have anything, no big deal.  I've used
> python/webdriver for several projects so I wouldn't say I am a
> beginner but I can always learn something new from others.
>
> Kyle
> Sent from my iPhone.
>
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Good with me.
> > If you have selenium installed, I've got a "follow me" part where
> everyone
> > can follow along and get some of the basics down.
> >
> > virtualenv and pip/easy_install are your friends.  (pip install -U
> selenium
> > OR easy_install selenium)
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Unless Jeff chimes in we will be at Lansky's at 7pm.  Look for a table
> with
> >> computers on it!
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Kyle Korbel <kyle.s.korbel at gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So what's the consensus?  A table at Lansky's?  What time?
> >>>
> >>> Kyle
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone.
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bad news, they have a big party scheduled already.  I am ok with
> >> meeting
> >>> at
> >>>> a table unless anyone else has better place.
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Speaking of which, Steve -- would you mind giving Lansky's a heads
> up?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Jeff
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Steve Young <
> >>> wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hey Kyle,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We are meeting at Lansky's at 50th and L, 7pm, and meet in the room
> >> in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> far back.  You can find extra parking behind the building.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Steve Young
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Kyle Korbel <
> >> kyle.s.korbel at gmail.com
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've been using ruby/watir-webdriver but have been moving my tests
> >>>>>>> over to python/selenium2 so I would be interested in listening.  Do
> >>>>>>> you still meet at PKI?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kyle
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Steve,
> >>>>>>>> Any other response from possible attendees?  I've been doing a bit
> >> of
> >>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>> with the python bindings from Selenium2, specifically, the
> >> webdriver.
> >>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>> model is drastically different than the previous selenium1-rc
> >> (remote
> >>>>>>>> control) tests that we were running.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We are changing over here at work because the webdriver model
> >> allows
> >>>>> us
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> overcome problems we were having with the old version and our
> tests
> >>>>>>> needing
> >>>>>>>> to wander from http to https and back again. If anyone is
> >>>>> interested, I
> >>>>>>>> could talk about what I've learned so far.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> best,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Jeff
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Steve Young <
> >>>>>> wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Looks like you aren't the first to have this issue:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4694634/django-auth-increasing-max-username-length
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2610088/can-djangos-auth-user-username-be-varchar75-how-could-that-be-done
> >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/GoodCloud/django-longer-username
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Steve Young
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Matthew Nuzum <
> >> newz at bearfruit.org>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matthew Nuzum <
> >> newz at bearfruit.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Steve Young <
> >>>>>>>>> wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting idea.  Looks nice on my Samsung Fascinate/Dolphin
> >>>>>>> browser.
> >>>>>>>>>> It
> >>>>>>>>>>>> will be good to have ratings for web apps.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I could not register, got the "There was a little problem"
> >>>>> message.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using any Python in the development?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Young
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, yes, I'm using Django 1.3. I got e-mails about a
> >>>>>> registration
> >>>>>>>>>>> problem. It is the first time I've seen it, hopefully it will
> be
> >>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>> easy
> >>>>>>>>>>> fix. :-/
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ah, fail. I use the e-mail address for username and I'm using
> >>>>>> Django's
> >>>>>>>>> User
> >>>>>>>>>> model, which has a max length of 30 characters for the username.
> >> I
> >>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>> know if that will be easy to fix or not. :-/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Matthew Nuzum
> >>>>>>>>>> newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin and twitter
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ♫ You're never fully dressed without a smile! ♫
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