From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Feb  1 06:23:50 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:23:50 -0600
Subject: [omaha] amoffat/pbs - GitHub
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-mqVecTUfrXJ5XQcyrSeeDPKTdESbAOToQjWspQg7PBQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://github.com/amoffat/pbs

Ok, now this is the neatest thing I've seen all week on planet python.   If
you do shell scripting and like Python it looks to be the cat's pajamas.
Haven't played with it yet but, I will.   Have fun!

Best,
Jeff Hinrichs

From choman at gmail.com  Wed Feb  1 06:30:02 2012
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:30:02 -0600
Subject: [omaha] amoffat/pbs - GitHub
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO-mqVecTUfrXJ5XQcyrSeeDPKTdESbAOToQjWspQg7PBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-mqVecTUfrXJ5XQcyrSeeDPKTdESbAOToQjWspQg7PBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xrk5gSvUPEta-ttzpHfPJUBw6Lizp2e-95mR9brvem5FPFrg@mail.gmail.com>

Nice
 On Jan 31, 2012 11:23 PM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
wrote:

> https://github.com/amoffat/pbs
>
> Ok, now this is the neatest thing I've seen all week on planet python.   If
> you do shell scripting and like Python it looks to be the cat's pajamas.
> Haven't played with it yet but, I will.   Have fun!
>
> Best,
> Jeff Hinrichs
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From dave at medidtech.com  Fri Feb 10 18:47:19 2012
From: dave at medidtech.com (David Howard)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:47:19 -0700
Subject: [omaha] Looking for a freelance Programmer
Message-ID: <000c01cce81c$0af97270$20ec5750$@com>

To All:

I'm looking for a programmer that will assist Med ID Technology. 

Please contact me. 

DAVE

 

David Howard

Vice President

FlashConceptz

MedID Technologies

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From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Feb 15 06:43:06 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:43:06 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting
Message-ID: <CALHZEO9iK0kMyhfNnvyeT46bKcm9T95MVssotmn8gs6YhxYNEA@mail.gmail.com>

Who is up for a meeting this month?


-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From choman at gmail.com  Wed Feb 15 06:46:35 2012
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:46:35 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO9iK0kMyhfNnvyeT46bKcm9T95MVssotmn8gs6YhxYNEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO9iK0kMyhfNnvyeT46bKcm9T95MVssotmn8gs6YhxYNEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xrk5jLG5kXwYqfn8kdk7T3-27WVviLvimCo4rjhSQeEuc2Aw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm heading out of town again on Monday. Sorry all. Maybe in April
On Feb 14, 2012 11:43 PM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:

> Who is up for a meeting this month?
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Wed Feb 15 14:40:53 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:40:53 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO9iK0kMyhfNnvyeT46bKcm9T95MVssotmn8gs6YhxYNEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO9iK0kMyhfNnvyeT46bKcm9T95MVssotmn8gs6YhxYNEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzhj2u1Y=H4kjrUaLL6Z_gt=ucT4NxBEvwLwz_4n895p6g@mail.gmail.com>

I am planning on it.

Steve


On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
<jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Who is up for a meeting this month?
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From elicriffield at gmail.com  Wed Feb 15 19:21:56 2012
From: elicriffield at gmail.com (Eli Criffield)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:21:56 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
Message-ID: <CAMvt5y6V92KC5uusw1CiPKyH7D0RM=0M1mSSXpKoMy_c4gkQcQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all.

I am still alive!

So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that we
can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office, or
a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at Google.
This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.

I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when you
get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area we'll
be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates. It's
a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to do
this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this month?

Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.

Also what day are we thinking?

I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i haven't
been to a meeting in a year.
One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
talk on that for a while.

Eli


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am planning on it.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>
>> Who is up for a meeting this month?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>>
>> Jeff Hinrichs
>> 402.218.1473
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From choman at gmail.com  Wed Feb 15 19:28:51 2012
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:28:51 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
In-Reply-To: <CAMvt5y6V92KC5uusw1CiPKyH7D0RM=0M1mSSXpKoMy_c4gkQcQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMvt5y6V92KC5uusw1CiPKyH7D0RM=0M1mSSXpKoMy_c4gkQcQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xrk5jv91F2O-FuEh62sRHqhJGkdAKPKgTy=kbWxppY0pKNxA@mail.gmail.com>

This sounds fun.  Can't wait to hear when.   Thanks Eli for putting this
together



Join The RVLution <http://www.monavie.com/rvlution>- Together We Win!
--
Chad - I AM MONAVIE
Creating A More Meaningful Life


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey all.
>
> I am still alive!
>
> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that we
> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office, or
> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at Google.
> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
>
> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when you
> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area we'll
> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates. It's
> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to do
> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this month?
>
> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
>
> Also what day are we thinking?
>
> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i haven't
> been to a meeting in a year.
> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
> talk on that for a while.
>
> Eli
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I am planning on it.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> 402.218.1473
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at delasco.com  Wed Feb 15 19:40:28 2012
From: jeffh at delasco.com (Jeff Hinrichs)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:40:28 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
In-Reply-To: <CAMvt5y6V92KC5uusw1CiPKyH7D0RM=0M1mSSXpKoMy_c4gkQcQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMvt5y6V92KC5uusw1CiPKyH7D0RM=0M1mSSXpKoMy_c4gkQcQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHoq1-oKxoxd5J1jV76sCHRRJuSfoKYWRU8JLgDjV4QMnkHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>

NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google? *smile*

On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.

I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting layer
for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.

Django, sl4a  ... (who else and what else?)

I like the way this meeting is shaping up.   The meeting would be next
Monday (2/20).  Do you think that is doable if the list is positive on the
subject?



-Jeff



On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey all.
>
> I am still alive!
>
> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that we
> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office, or
> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at Google.
> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
>
> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when you
> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area we'll
> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates. It's
> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to do
> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this month?
>
> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
>
> Also what day are we thinking?
>
> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i haven't
> been to a meeting in a year.
> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
> talk on that for a while.
>
> Eli
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I am planning on it.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> 402.218.1473
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From elicriffield at gmail.com  Wed Feb 15 20:36:50 2012
From: elicriffield at gmail.com (Eli Criffield)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:36:50 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
In-Reply-To: <CAHoq1-oKxoxd5J1jV76sCHRRJuSfoKYWRU8JLgDjV4QMnkHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMvt5y6V92KC5uusw1CiPKyH7D0RM=0M1mSSXpKoMy_c4gkQcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHoq1-oKxoxd5J1jV76sCHRRJuSfoKYWRU8JLgDjV4QMnkHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMvt5y6FdamzOZmPaFHoF07XNYDozy_sg4PRRsh1YbbyucXnUA@mail.gmail.com>

Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or gmail access,
Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let you
in, services working as normal.

How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?

And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see from
the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and say
out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
(The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but it
wasn't a very well kept secret)




On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com> wrote:
> NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google? *smile*
>
> On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.
>
> I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting layer
> for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
>
> Django, sl4a ?... (who else and what else?)
>
> I like the way this meeting is shaping up. ? The meeting would be next
> Monday (2/20). ?Do you think that is doable if the list is positive on the
> subject?
>
>
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey all.
>>
>> I am still alive!
>>
>> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that we
>> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office, or
>> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
>> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at Google.
>> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
>>
>> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when you
>> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area we'll
>> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates. It's
>> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
>> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
>> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
>> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
>> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
>> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
>> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to do
>> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this month?
>>
>> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
>>
>> Also what day are we thinking?
>>
>> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i haven't
>> been to a meeting in a year.
>> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
>> talk on that for a while.
>>
>> Eli
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I am planning on it.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
>> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Hinrichs
>> >> 402.218.1473
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> >> Omaha at python.org
>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >>
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > Omaha at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From choman at gmail.com  Wed Feb 15 21:16:55 2012
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:16:55 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
In-Reply-To: <CAMvt5y6FdamzOZmPaFHoF07XNYDozy_sg4PRRsh1YbbyucXnUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMvt5y6V92KC5uusw1CiPKyH7D0RM=0M1mSSXpKoMy_c4gkQcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHoq1-oKxoxd5J1jV76sCHRRJuSfoKYWRU8JLgDjV4QMnkHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMvt5y6FdamzOZmPaFHoF07XNYDozy_sg4PRRsh1YbbyucXnUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xrk5g9j0SU+BTrLcpxG6wsDpM3iMSHHRjKraBfNg95T6HDRg@mail.gmail.com>

Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues.  I'll have to
play it by ear
On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:

> Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or gmail
> access,
> Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let you
> in, services working as normal.
>
> How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
>
> And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
> picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
> google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see from
> the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and say
> out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
> there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
> (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
> secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but it
> wasn't a very well kept secret)
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com> wrote:
> > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google? *smile*
> >
> > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.
> >
> > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting layer
> > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
> >
> > Django, sl4a  ... (who else and what else?)
> >
> > I like the way this meeting is shaping up.   The meeting would be next
> > Monday (2/20).  Do you think that is doable if the list is positive on
> the
> > subject?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hey all.
> >>
> >> I am still alive!
> >>
> >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that we
> >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office, or
> >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
> >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at Google.
> >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
> >>
> >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when you
> >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area we'll
> >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates. It's
> >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
> >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
> >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
> >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
> >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
> >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
> >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to do
> >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this month?
> >>
> >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
> >>
> >> Also what day are we thinking?
> >>
> >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i haven't
> >> been to a meeting in a year.
> >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
> >> talk on that for a while.
> >>
> >> Eli
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > I am planning on it.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Best,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> >> 402.218.1473
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> >>
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
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From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 03:54:19 2012
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:54:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xrk5g9j0SU+BTrLcpxG6wsDpM3iMSHHRjKraBfNg95T6HDRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMvt5y6V92KC5uusw1CiPKyH7D0RM=0M1mSSXpKoMy_c4gkQcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHoq1-oKxoxd5J1jV76sCHRRJuSfoKYWRU8JLgDjV4QMnkHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMvt5y6FdamzOZmPaFHoF07XNYDozy_sg4PRRsh1YbbyucXnUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+Xrk5g9j0SU+BTrLcpxG6wsDpM3iMSHHRjKraBfNg95T6HDRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1329360859.26427.YahooMailNeo@web112806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

tues or wed......close to me (within a mile).......where do I sign up?

all topics mentioned sound good too.

joe



________________________________
 From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
 
Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues.? I'll have to
play it by ear
On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:

> Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or gmail
> access,
> Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let you
> in, services working as normal.
>
> How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
>
> And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
> picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
> google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see from
> the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and say
> out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
> there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
> (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
> secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but it
> wasn't a very well kept secret)
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com> wrote:
> > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google? *smile*
> >
> > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.
> >
> > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting layer
> > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
> >
> > Django, sl4a? ... (who else and what else?)
> >
> > I like the way this meeting is shaping up.?  The meeting would be next
> > Monday (2/20).? Do you think that is doable if the list is positive on
> the
> > subject?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hey all.
> >>
> >> I am still alive!
> >>
> >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that we
> >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office, or
> >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
> >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at Google.
> >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
> >>
> >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when you
> >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area we'll
> >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates. It's
> >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
> >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
> >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
> >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
> >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
> >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
> >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to do
> >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this month?
> >>
> >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
> >>
> >> Also what day are we thinking?
> >>
> >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i haven't
> >> been to a meeting in a year.
> >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
> >> talk on that for a while.
> >>
> >> Eli
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > I am planning on it.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Best,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> >> 402.218.1473
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> >>
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
_______________________________________________
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http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Feb 16 03:59:15 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:59:15 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
In-Reply-To: <1329360859.26427.YahooMailNeo@web112806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAMvt5y6V92KC5uusw1CiPKyH7D0RM=0M1mSSXpKoMy_c4gkQcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHoq1-oKxoxd5J1jV76sCHRRJuSfoKYWRU8JLgDjV4QMnkHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMvt5y6FdamzOZmPaFHoF07XNYDozy_sg4PRRsh1YbbyucXnUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+Xrk5g9j0SU+BTrLcpxG6wsDpM3iMSHHRjKraBfNg95T6HDRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1329360859.26427.YahooMailNeo@web112806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_8iG1su0TNk3wd+QNQupu7Y2YFUNAF4X2z1U4UvNKUiA@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like we have two votes for Wed.  I am +0 on it and can make any of
the days.
If you are on the list and would like to attend please speak up.

-Jeff

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:

> tues or wed......close to me (within a mile).......where do I sign up?
>
> all topics mentioned sound good too.
>
> joe
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
>
> Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues.  I'll have to
> play it by ear
> On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or gmail
> > access,
> > Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let you
> > in, services working as normal.
> >
> > How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
> >
> > And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
> > picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
> > google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see from
> > the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and say
> > out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
> > there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
> > (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
> > secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but it
> > wasn't a very well kept secret)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com>
> wrote:
> > > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google?
> *smile*
> > >
> > > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.
> > >
> > > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting
> layer
> > > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
> > >
> > > Django, sl4a  ... (who else and what else?)
> > >
> > > I like the way this meeting is shaping up.   The meeting would be next
> > > Monday (2/20).  Do you think that is doable if the list is positive on
> > the
> > > subject?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <
> elicriffield at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hey all.
> > >>
> > >> I am still alive!
> > >>
> > >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that we
> > >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office, or
> > >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
> > >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at Google.
> > >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
> > >>
> > >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when you
> > >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area we'll
> > >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates. It's
> > >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
> > >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
> > >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
> > >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
> > >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
> > >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
> > >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to do
> > >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this month?
> > >>
> > >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
> > >>
> > >> Also what day are we thinking?
> > >>
> > >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i haven't
> > >> been to a meeting in a year.
> > >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
> > >> talk on that for a while.
> > >>
> > >> Eli
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <
> wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > I am planning on it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Steve
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Best,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> > >> >> 402.218.1473
> > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > >> >> Omaha at python.org
> > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >> >>
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > >> > Omaha at python.org
> > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > >> Omaha at python.org
> > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

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Hi guys, I am new member, I want to participate in your meetings but my schedule is really bad. I am free only after 10 pm,everyday. Normally i am free on mondays after 3pm but this month i am full. Also im free wednesday after 9pm and, monday and wednsday before 11am. If you schedule a meeting Im gonna try come but I cant promise

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   2. Re: Upcoming Meeting @ Google? (Joe Gulizia)
   3. Re: Upcoming Meeting @ Google? (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:16:55 -0600
From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
Message-ID:
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Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues.  I'll have to
play it by ear
On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:

> Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or gmail
> access,
> Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let you
> in, services working as normal.
>
> How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
>
> And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
> picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
> google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see from
> the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and say
> out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
> there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
> (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
> secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but it
> wasn't a very well kept secret)
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com> wrote:
> > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google? *smile*
> >
> > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.
> >
> > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting layer
> > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
> >
> > Django, sl4a  ... (who else and what else?)
> >
> > I like the way this meeting is shaping up.   The meeting would be next
> > Monday (2/20).  Do you think that is doable if the list is positive on
> the
> > subject?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hey all.
> >>
> >> I am still alive!
> >>
> >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that we
> >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office, or
> >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
> >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at Google.
> >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
> >>
> >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when you
> >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area we'll
> >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates. It's
> >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
> >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
> >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
> >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
> >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
> >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
> >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to do
> >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this month?
> >>
> >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
> >>
> >> Also what day are we thinking?
> >>
> >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i haven't
> >> been to a meeting in a year.
> >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
> >> talk on that for a while.
> >>
> >> Eli
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > I am planning on it.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Best,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> >> 402.218.1473
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> >>
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:54:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
Message-ID:
	<1329360859.26427.YahooMailNeo at web112806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

tues or wed......close to me (within a mile).......where do I sign up?

all topics mentioned sound good too.

joe



________________________________
 From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
 
Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues.? I'll have to
play it by ear
On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:

> Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or gmail
> access,
> Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let you
> in, services working as normal.
>
> How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
>
> And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
> picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
> google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see from
> the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and say
> out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
> there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
> (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
> secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but it
> wasn't a very well kept secret)
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com> wrote:
> > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google? *smile*
> >
> > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.
> >
> > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting layer
> > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
> >
> > Django, sl4a? ... (who else and what else?)
> >
> > I like the way this meeting is shaping up.?  The meeting would be next
> > Monday (2/20).? Do you think that is doable if the list is positive on
> the
> > subject?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hey all.
> >>
> >> I am still alive!
> >>
> >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that we
> >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office, or
> >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
> >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at Google.
> >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
> >>
> >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when you
> >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area we'll
> >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates. It's
> >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
> >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
> >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
> >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
> >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
> >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
> >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to do
> >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this month?
> >>
> >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
> >>
> >> Also what day are we thinking?
> >>
> >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i haven't
> >> been to a meeting in a year.
> >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
> >> talk on that for a while.
> >>
> >> Eli
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > I am planning on it.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Best,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> >> 402.218.1473
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> >>
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
_______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:59:15 -0600
From: "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
Message-ID:
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Sounds like we have two votes for Wed.  I am +0 on it and can make any of
the days.
If you are on the list and would like to attend please speak up.

-Jeff

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:

> tues or wed......close to me (within a mile).......where do I sign up?
>
> all topics mentioned sound good too.
>
> joe
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
>
> Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues.  I'll have to
> play it by ear
> On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or gmail
> > access,
> > Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let you
> > in, services working as normal.
> >
> > How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
> >
> > And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
> > picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
> > google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see from
> > the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and say
> > out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
> > there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
> > (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
> > secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but it
> > wasn't a very well kept secret)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com>
> wrote:
> > > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google?
> *smile*
> > >
> > > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.
> > >
> > > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting
> layer
> > > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
> > >
> > > Django, sl4a  ... (who else and what else?)
> > >
> > > I like the way this meeting is shaping up.   The meeting would be next
> > > Monday (2/20).  Do you think that is doable if the list is positive on
> > the
> > > subject?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <
> elicriffield at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hey all.
> > >>
> > >> I am still alive!
> > >>
> > >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that we
> > >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office, or
> > >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
> > >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at Google.
> > >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
> > >>
> > >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when you
> > >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area we'll
> > >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates. It's
> > >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
> > >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
> > >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
> > >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
> > >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
> > >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
> > >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to do
> > >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this month?
> > >>
> > >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
> > >>
> > >> Also what day are we thinking?
> > >>
> > >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i haven't
> > >> been to a meeting in a year.
> > >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
> > >> talk on that for a while.
> > >>
> > >> Eli
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <
> wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > I am planning on it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Steve
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Best,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> > >> >> 402.218.1473
> > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > >> >> Omaha at python.org
> > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >> >>
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > >> > Omaha at python.org
> > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > >> Omaha at python.org
> > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473


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From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Thu Feb 16 05:08:22 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:08:22 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
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Either day works for me.

Steve

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Sounds like we have two votes for Wed.  I am +0 on it and can make any of
> the days.
> If you are on the list and would like to attend please speak up.
>
> -Jeff
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > tues or wed......close to me (within a mile).......where do I sign up?
> >
> > all topics mentioned sound good too.
> >
> > joe
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
> >
> > Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues.  I'll have to
> > play it by ear
> > On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or gmail
> > > access,
> > > Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let you
> > > in, services working as normal.
> > >
> > > How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
> > >
> > > And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
> > > picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
> > > google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see from
> > > the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and say
> > > out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
> > > there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
> > > (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
> > > secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but it
> > > wasn't a very well kept secret)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google?
> > *smile*
> > > >
> > > > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.
> > > >
> > > > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting
> > layer
> > > > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
> > > >
> > > > Django, sl4a  ... (who else and what else?)
> > > >
> > > > I like the way this meeting is shaping up.   The meeting would be
> next
> > > > Monday (2/20).  Do you think that is doable if the list is positive
> on
> > > the
> > > > subject?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <
> > elicriffield at gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hey all.
> > > >>
> > > >> I am still alive!
> > > >>
> > > >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that
> we
> > > >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office,
> or
> > > >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
> > > >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at
> Google.
> > > >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
> > > >>
> > > >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when
> you
> > > >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area
> we'll
> > > >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates.
> It's
> > > >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
> > > >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
> > > >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
> > > >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
> > > >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
> > > >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
> > > >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to
> do
> > > >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this
> month?
> > > >>
> > > >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
> > > >>
> > > >> Also what day are we thinking?
> > > >>
> > > >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i
> haven't
> > > >> been to a meeting in a year.
> > > >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
> > > >> talk on that for a while.
> > > >>
> > > >> Eli
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <
> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > I am planning on it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Steve
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > > >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Best,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> > > >> >> 402.218.1473
> > > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > >> >> Omaha at python.org
> > > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > _______________________________________________
> > > >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > >> > Omaha at python.org
> > > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > >> Omaha at python.org
> > > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >>
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From elicriffield at gmail.com  Thu Feb 16 06:41:48 2012
From: elicriffield at gmail.com (Eli Criffield)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:41:48 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
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Wednesday is slightly better then Tuesday so I say Wednesday Feb 22nd.
Also anyone want to start early say 6 or 6:30. This is purely a
selfish reason. I'll already be in at google so why leave and come
back.  But if we come up with a lot to talk about why not get an early
start. I guess that'd be over dinner. We can eat in this conference
room and bring food in.

Add you're name to this form and that'll be the official list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHpld1UwQ2xYbFROVzBGUkJYSE1VUmc6MQ

Eli

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com> wrote:
> Either day works for me.
>
> Steve
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>
>> Sounds like we have two votes for Wed. ?I am +0 on it and can make any of
>> the days.
>> If you are on the list and would like to attend please speak up.
>>
>> -Jeff
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > tues or wed......close to me (within a mile).......where do I sign up?
>> >
>> > all topics mentioned sound good too.
>> >
>> > joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > ?From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
>> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:16 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
>> >
>> > Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues. ?I'll have to
>> > play it by ear
>> > On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or gmail
>> > > access,
>> > > Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let you
>> > > in, services working as normal.
>> > >
>> > > How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
>> > >
>> > > And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
>> > > picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
>> > > google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see from
>> > > the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and say
>> > > out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
>> > > there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
>> > > (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
>> > > secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but it
>> > > wasn't a very well kept secret)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google?
>> > *smile*
>> > > >
>> > > > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting
>> > layer
>> > > > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
>> > > >
>> > > > Django, sl4a ?... (who else and what else?)
>> > > >
>> > > > I like the way this meeting is shaping up. ? The meeting would be
>> next
>> > > > Monday (2/20). ?Do you think that is doable if the list is positive
>> on
>> > > the
>> > > > subject?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -Jeff
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <
>> > elicriffield at gmail.com
>> > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hey all.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I am still alive!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that
>> we
>> > > >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office,
>> or
>> > > >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
>> > > >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at
>> Google.
>> > > >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when
>> you
>> > > >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area
>> we'll
>> > > >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates.
>> It's
>> > > >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
>> > > >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
>> > > >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
>> > > >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
>> > > >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
>> > > >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
>> > > >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to
>> do
>> > > >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this
>> month?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Also what day are we thinking?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i
>> haven't
>> > > >> been to a meeting in a year.
>> > > >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
>> > > >> talk on that for a while.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Eli
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <
>> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >> > I am planning on it.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Steve
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
>> > > >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> --
>> > > >> >> Best,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
>> > > >> >> 402.218.1473
>> > > >> >> _______________________________________________
>> > > >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > >> >> Omaha at python.org
>> > > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > > >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > >> > Omaha at python.org
>> > > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > >> _______________________________________________
>> > > >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > >> Omaha at python.org
>> > > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > >>
>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > > Omaha at python.org
>> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > Omaha at python.org
>> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > Omaha at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > Omaha at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>>
>> Jeff Hinrichs
>> 402.218.1473
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Feb 16 06:56:20 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:56:20 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
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I'm on the list.
Eli, ok if we post the link to the form on the website?  www.omahapython.org

Also, if you get us the info for parking, protocol, etc.

I am good with 6 or 6:30.  I am just up the road from you.  Should we say
6:00 for social/food, 6:30 presentations begin?

Best,

jeff



On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>wrote:

> Wednesday is slightly better then Tuesday so I say Wednesday Feb 22nd.
> Also anyone want to start early say 6 or 6:30. This is purely a
> selfish reason. I'll already be in at google so why leave and come
> back.  But if we come up with a lot to talk about why not get an early
> start. I guess that'd be over dinner. We can eat in this conference
> room and bring food in.
>
> Add you're name to this form and that'll be the official list.
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHpld1UwQ2xYbFROVzBGUkJYSE1VUmc6MQ
>
> Eli
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Either day works for me.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds like we have two votes for Wed.  I am +0 on it and can make any
> of
> >> the days.
> >> If you are on the list and would like to attend please speak up.
> >>
> >> -Jeff
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > tues or wed......close to me (within a mile).......where do I sign up?
> >> >
> >> > all topics mentioned sound good too.
> >> >
> >> > joe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> >  From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
> >> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:16 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
> >> >
> >> > Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues.  I'll
> have to
> >> > play it by ear
> >> > On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or
> gmail
> >> > > access,
> >> > > Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let
> you
> >> > > in, services working as normal.
> >> > >
> >> > > How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
> >> > >
> >> > > And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
> >> > > picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
> >> > > google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see
> from
> >> > > the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and
> say
> >> > > out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
> >> > > there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
> >> > > (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
> >> > > secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but
> it
> >> > > wasn't a very well kept secret)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google?
> >> > *smile*
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time
> thing.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via
> scripting
> >> > layer
> >> > > > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Django, sl4a  ... (who else and what else?)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I like the way this meeting is shaping up.   The meeting would be
> >> next
> >> > > > Monday (2/20).  Do you think that is doable if the list is
> positive
> >> on
> >> > > the
> >> > > > subject?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -Jeff
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <
> >> > elicriffield at gmail.com
> >> > > >wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hey all.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I am still alive!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup
> that
> >> we
> >> > > >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales
> office,
> >> or
> >> > > >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so
> people
> >> > > >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at
> >> Google.
> >> > > >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then
> when
> >> you
> >> > > >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area
> >> we'll
> >> > > >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates.
> >> It's
> >> > > >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do
> it
> >> > > >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full
> blown
> >> > > >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full
> access
> >> > > >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not
> a
> >> > > >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think
> that
> >> > > >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to
> poke
> >> > > >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get
> to
> >> do
> >> > > >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this
> >> month?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Also what day are we thinking?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i
> >> haven't
> >> > > >> been to a meeting in a year.
> >> > > >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I
> could
> >> > > >> talk on that for a while.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Eli
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <
> >> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> > I am planning on it.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Steve
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> >> > > >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> --
> >> > > >> >> Best,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> > > >> >> 402.218.1473
> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > >> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> > > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > > >> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > >> Omaha at python.org
> >> > > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > > >>
> >> > > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > > Omaha at python.org
> >> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > Omaha at python.org
> >> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> 402.218.1473
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From elicriffield at gmail.com  Thu Feb 16 08:05:08 2012
From: elicriffield at gmail.com (Eli Criffield)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:05:08 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
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Ok I'm shooting for Wed Feb 22nd 6pm for food and drinks social stuff.
6:30ish we'll start the presentations.
At some point i have to close the signup and hand it over.

Let me make sure Wednesday isn't to soon before i say for sure,
Shouldn't be a problem, but need the final rubber stamp.

I'll have details of exactly what you need to do when you get here and
who is on the list when we get closer to the date.

Eli

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
<jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:
> I'm on the list.
> Eli, ok if we post the link to the form on the website? ?www.omahapython.org
>
> Also, if you get us the info for parking, protocol, etc.
>
> I am good with 6 or 6:30. ?I am just up the road from you. ?Should we say
> 6:00 for social/food, 6:30 presentations begin?
>
> Best,
>
> jeff
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Wednesday is slightly better then Tuesday so I say Wednesday Feb 22nd.
>> Also anyone want to start early say 6 or 6:30. This is purely a
>> selfish reason. I'll already be in at google so why leave and come
>> back. ?But if we come up with a lot to talk about why not get an early
>> start. I guess that'd be over dinner. We can eat in this conference
>> room and bring food in.
>>
>> Add you're name to this form and that'll be the official list.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHpld1UwQ2xYbFROVzBGUkJYSE1VUmc6MQ
>>
>> Eli
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Either day works for me.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
>> jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sounds like we have two votes for Wed. ?I am +0 on it and can make any
>> of
>> >> the days.
>> >> If you are on the list and would like to attend please speak up.
>> >>
>> >> -Jeff
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > tues or wed......close to me (within a mile).......where do I sign up?
>> >> >
>> >> > all topics mentioned sound good too.
>> >> >
>> >> > joe
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________
>> >> > ?From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
>> >> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:16 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
>> >> >
>> >> > Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues. ?I'll
>> have to
>> >> > play it by ear
>> >> > On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or
>> gmail
>> >> > > access,
>> >> > > Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let
>> you
>> >> > > in, services working as normal.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
>> >> > > picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
>> >> > > google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see
>> from
>> >> > > the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and
>> say
>> >> > > out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
>> >> > > there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
>> >> > > (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
>> >> > > secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but
>> it
>> >> > > wasn't a very well kept secret)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google?
>> >> > *smile*
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time
>> thing.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via
>> scripting
>> >> > layer
>> >> > > > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Django, sl4a ?... (who else and what else?)
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I like the way this meeting is shaping up. ? The meeting would be
>> >> next
>> >> > > > Monday (2/20). ?Do you think that is doable if the list is
>> positive
>> >> on
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > > subject?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > -Jeff
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <
>> >> > elicriffield at gmail.com
>> >> > > >wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> Hey all.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> I am still alive!
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup
>> that
>> >> we
>> >> > > >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales
>> office,
>> >> or
>> >> > > >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so
>> people
>> >> > > >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at
>> >> Google.
>> >> > > >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then
>> when
>> >> you
>> >> > > >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area
>> >> we'll
>> >> > > >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates.
>> >> It's
>> >> > > >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do
>> it
>> >> > > >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full
>> blown
>> >> > > >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full
>> access
>> >> > > >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not
>> a
>> >> > > >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think
>> that
>> >> > > >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to
>> poke
>> >> > > >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get
>> to
>> >> do
>> >> > > >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this
>> >> month?
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Also what day are we thinking?
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i
>> >> haven't
>> >> > > >> been to a meeting in a year.
>> >> > > >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I
>> could
>> >> > > >> talk on that for a while.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Eli
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <
>> >> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> wrote:
>> >> > > >> > I am planning on it.
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > Steve
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
>> >> > > >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> >> --
>> >> > > >> >> Best,
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
>> >> > > >> >> 402.218.1473
>> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> > > >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> >> > > >> >> Omaha at python.org
>> >> > > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> >> > > >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >> > > >> >>
>> >> > > >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> >> > > >> > Omaha at python.org
>> >> > > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> >> > > >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >> > > >> _______________________________________________
>> >> > > >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> >> > > >> Omaha at python.org
>> >> > > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> >> > > >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> >> > > > Omaha at python.org
>> >> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> >> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> >> > > Omaha at python.org
>> >> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> >> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >> > >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> >> > Omaha at python.org
>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> >> > Omaha at python.org
>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Hinrichs
>> >> 402.218.1473
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> >> Omaha at python.org
>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >>
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > Omaha at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 16:22:22 2012
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:22:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
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	<CAHoq1-oKxoxd5J1jV76sCHRRJuSfoKYWRU8JLgDjV4QMnkHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMvt5y6FdamzOZmPaFHoF07XNYDozy_sg4PRRsh1YbbyucXnUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+Xrk5g9j0SU+BTrLcpxG6wsDpM3iMSHHRjKraBfNg95T6HDRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1329360859.26427.YahooMailNeo@web112806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1329405742.77742.YahooMailNeo@web112803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

6 or 6:30 (or earlier) is fine...I'm close by.

Joe



________________________________
 From: Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
 
Wednesday is slightly better then Tuesday so I say Wednesday Feb 22nd.
Also anyone want to start early say 6 or 6:30. This is purely a
selfish reason. I'll already be in at google so why leave and come
back.? But if we come up with a lot to talk about why not get an early
start. I guess that'd be over dinner. We can eat in this conference
room and bring food in.

Add you're name to this form and that'll be the official list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHpld1UwQ2xYbFROVzBGUkJYSE1VUmc6MQ

Eli

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com> wrote:
> Either day works for me.
>
> Steve
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>
>> Sounds like we have two votes for Wed. ?I am +0 on it and can make any of
>> the days.
>> If you are on the list and would like to attend please speak up.
>>
>> -Jeff
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > tues or wed......close to me (within a mile).......where do I sign up?
>> >
>> > all topics mentioned sound good too.
>> >
>> > joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > ?From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
>> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:16 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
>> >
>> > Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues. ?I'll have to
>> > play it by ear
>> > On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or gmail
>> > > access,
>> > > Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let you
>> > > in, services working as normal.
>> > >
>> > > How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
>> > >
>> > > And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
>> > > picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
>> > > google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see from
>> > > the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and say
>> > > out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
>> > > there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
>> > > (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
>> > > secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but it
>> > > wasn't a very well kept secret)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google?
>> > *smile*
>> > > >
>> > > > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time thing.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via scripting
>> > layer
>> > > > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
>> > > >
>> > > > Django, sl4a ?... (who else and what else?)
>> > > >
>> > > > I like the way this meeting is shaping up. ? The meeting would be
>> next
>> > > > Monday (2/20). ?Do you think that is doable if the list is positive
>> on
>> > > the
>> > > > subject?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -Jeff
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <
>> > elicriffield at gmail.com
>> > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hey all.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I am still alive!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup that
>> we
>> > > >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales office,
>> or
>> > > >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so people
>> > > >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at
>> Google.
>> > > >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then when
>> you
>> > > >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area
>> we'll
>> > > >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates.
>> It's
>> > > >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do it
>> > > >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full blown
>> > > >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full access
>> > > >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not a
>> > > >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think that
>> > > >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to poke
>> > > >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get to
>> do
>> > > >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this
>> month?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Also what day are we thinking?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i
>> haven't
>> > > >> been to a meeting in a year.
>> > > >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I could
>> > > >> talk on that for a while.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Eli
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <
>> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >> > I am planning on it.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Steve
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
>> > > >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> --
>> > > >> >> Best,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
>> > > >> >> 402.218.1473
>> > > >> >> _______________________________________________
>> > > >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > >> >> Omaha at python.org
>> > > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > > >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > >> > Omaha at python.org
>> > > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > >> _______________________________________________
>> > > >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > >> Omaha at python.org
>> > > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > >>
>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > > Omaha at python.org
>> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > Omaha at python.org
>> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > Omaha at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > Omaha at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>>
>> Jeff Hinrichs
>> 402.218.1473
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 16:23:09 2012
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:23:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO85n2-LzUmbapYdcwbxLf5FJCqsCOy0Xcc0NTkd=5LJtg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMvt5y6V92KC5uusw1CiPKyH7D0RM=0M1mSSXpKoMy_c4gkQcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHoq1-oKxoxd5J1jV76sCHRRJuSfoKYWRU8JLgDjV4QMnkHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMvt5y6FdamzOZmPaFHoF07XNYDozy_sg4PRRsh1YbbyucXnUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+Xrk5g9j0SU+BTrLcpxG6wsDpM3iMSHHRjKraBfNg95T6HDRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1329360859.26427.YahooMailNeo@web112806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<CALHZEO_8iG1su0TNk3wd+QNQupu7Y2YFUNAF4X2z1U4UvNKUiA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFGSzzjHn5gr-2TKTHnxb9JSdWUiekGvoGKTofWPgJb_fB7uDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMvt5y6o5TFX2RHw+zfAteLhorUeEyuuyJgmcahzKR-JzonMaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO85n2-LzUmbapYdcwbxLf5FJCqsCOy0Xcc0NTkd=5LJtg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1329405789.40276.YahooMailNeo@web112813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'm good with Jeff's suggestion.

Joe



________________________________
 From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
 
I'm on the list.
Eli, ok if we post the link to the form on the website?? www.omahapython.org

Also, if you get us the info for parking, protocol, etc.

I am good with 6 or 6:30.? I am just up the road from you.? Should we say
6:00 for social/food, 6:30 presentations begin?

Best,

jeff



On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>wrote:

> Wednesday is slightly better then Tuesday so I say Wednesday Feb 22nd.
> Also anyone want to start early say 6 or 6:30. This is purely a
> selfish reason. I'll already be in at google so why leave and come
> back.? But if we come up with a lot to talk about why not get an early
> start. I guess that'd be over dinner. We can eat in this conference
> room and bring food in.
>
> Add you're name to this form and that'll be the official list.
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHpld1UwQ2xYbFROVzBGUkJYSE1VUmc6MQ
>
> Eli
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Either day works for me.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds like we have two votes for Wed.? I am +0 on it and can make any
> of
> >> the days.
> >> If you are on the list and would like to attend please speak up.
> >>
> >> -Jeff
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > tues or wed......close to me (within a mile).......where do I sign up?
> >> >
> >> > all topics mentioned sound good too.
> >> >
> >> > joe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> >? From: Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com>
> >> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:16 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
> >> >
> >> > Wednesday might work for me as I am out of town Mon & Tues.? I'll
> have to
> >> > play it by ear
> >> > On Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM, "Eli Criffield" <elicriffield at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Monday is President's Day Google's closed, so no web searches or
> gmail
> >> > > access,
> >> > > Oh fine print says i just don't have to go to work so i can't let
> you
> >> > > in, services working as normal.
> >> > >
> >> > > How about Tuesday or Wednesday ?
> >> > >
> >> > > And you can say you where there but not what's inside (Hint: take a
> >> > > picture of any conference room you've ever been to and say it's
> >> > > google, it looks just like that). We even have a sign you can see
> from
> >> > > the street now. You can even whip out you're android voice app and
> say
> >> > > out loud "Navigate to Google Data Center" and it'll take you right
> >> > > there now, so i think the secrets of our location is out.
> >> > > (The location is pubic now, but before Google built it they where
> >> > > secretive of what was being built here and who was building it, but
> it
> >> > > wasn't a very well kept secret)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > NDA ? Does that mean we can't tell anyone that we met at Google?
> >> > *smile*
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On a more serious note, I think it would be a cool, one time
> thing.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I've been promising a talk on using python on android via
> scripting
> >> > layer
> >> > > > for android (sl4a). Might be fitting to give it in that venue.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Django, sl4a? ... (who else and what else?)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I like the way this meeting is shaping up.?  The meeting would be
> >> next
> >> > > > Monday (2/20).? Do you think that is doable if the list is
> positive
> >> on
> >> > > the
> >> > > > subject?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -Jeff
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eli Criffield <
> >> > elicriffield at gmail.com
> >> > > >wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hey all.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I am still alive!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> So google is still here too, and we finally have things setup
> that
> >> we
> >> > > >> can have people in from the outside. But we are not a sales
> office,
> >> or
> >> > > >> a normal engineering office so we have heightened security so
> people
> >> > > >> are willing to work with that we can have the next meeting at
> >> Google.
> >> > > >> This is just a one time thing, or maybe a once in a while thing.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I would have to give a list of who's coming to security, then
> when
> >> you
> >> > > >> get here they have to check you're ID escort you to the one area
> >> we'll
> >> > > >> be meeting in and then when we're done right out the front gates.
> >> It's
> >> > > >> a pain and the location is all the way in iowa (long drive, i do
> it
> >> > > >> every day) so maybe it's not worth it but i can offer a full
> blown
> >> > > >> white board, a full sized projector, water for everyone, full
> access
> >> > > >> to bathrooms, speedy wifi (from inside the tubes). But it is not
> a
> >> > > >> tour of google, it's just a conference room (i don't even think
> that
> >> > > >> one says google anywhere), If anyone wanders off and tries to
> poke
> >> > > >> around that would insure we (or any other users group) never get
> to
> >> do
> >> > > >> this again. What do you guys think, want to give it a try this
> >> month?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Did I mention the NDA, you'd have to sign an NDA.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Also what day are we thinking?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I've got some ideas for topics, but mite be redundant since i
> >> haven't
> >> > > >> been to a meeting in a year.
> >> > > >> One would be class based views in django vs old style views, I
> could
> >> > > >> talk on that for a while.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Eli
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steve Young <
> >> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> > I am planning on it.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Steve
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> >> > > >> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> Who is up for a meeting this month?
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> --
> >> > > >> >> Best,
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> > > >> >> 402.218.1473
> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > >> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> > > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > >> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > > >> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > >> Omaha at python.org
> >> > > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > > >>
> >> > > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > > Omaha at python.org
> >> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > Omaha at python.org
> >> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> 402.218.1473
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Fri Feb 17 19:06:37 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:06:37 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Django Debug Toolbar
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzhbkbPvyDxRZQfy0LG6vLrFNH3bDs_KwOueA_qUVnszvA@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone tried this out? If so, was it useful?
https://github.com/django-debug-toolbar/django-debug-toolbar

A short video from a couple of years ago here:  http://vimeo.com/6640136

I am about thru the Practical Django Projects book - it has been very
helpful - although it would have been tough if someone hadn't posted the
updated code for 1.3 on github.

I also found a nice Django cheat sheet here:
http://www.revsys.com/django/cheatsheet/

Django is nice because it does so much, but it is almost like learning a
new language!

Steve

From shawnhermans at gmail.com  Fri Feb 17 19:36:45 2012
From: shawnhermans at gmail.com (Shawn Hermans)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:36:45 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Django Debug Toolbar
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzhbkbPvyDxRZQfy0LG6vLrFNH3bDs_KwOueA_qUVnszvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzhbkbPvyDxRZQfy0LG6vLrFNH3bDs_KwOueA_qUVnszvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABT9k_C3X7=KEeOOeiOOXLKyrz_5nMA3i6uZh3a1jB1n5LiCKQ@mail.gmail.com>

I currently use it and find it somewhat useful.  It tells you things like
how many SQL queries per view and some other debug information. The one
downside is that it adds a lot of extra stuff into the HTML output which
can make debugging using Firebug a little harder.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Anyone tried this out? If so, was it useful?
> https://github.com/django-debug-toolbar/django-debug-toolbar
>
> A short video from a couple of years ago here:  http://vimeo.com/6640136
>
> I am about thru the Practical Django Projects book - it has been very
> helpful - although it would have been tough if someone hadn't posted the
> updated code for 1.3 on github.
>
> I also found a nice Django cheat sheet here:
> http://www.revsys.com/django/cheatsheet/
>
> Django is nice because it does so much, but it is almost like learning a
> new language!
>
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From arik.gokhan at yahoo.com.tr  Fri Feb 17 19:51:58 2012
From: arik.gokhan at yahoo.com.tr (arik.gokhan at yahoo.com.tr)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:51:58 +0000
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
Message-ID: <639579.83177.qm@smtp110-mob.biz.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Can we make meeting before 6? Around 5 - 5.30. I will attend anyway but earlier would be better for me.

Gokhan Arik

From mike at hostetlerhome.com  Fri Feb 17 20:09:49 2012
From: mike at hostetlerhome.com (Mike Hostetler)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:09:49 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Django Debug Toolbar
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzhbkbPvyDxRZQfy0LG6vLrFNH3bDs_KwOueA_qUVnszvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzhbkbPvyDxRZQfy0LG6vLrFNH3bDs_KwOueA_qUVnszvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F3EA5FD.9050604@hostetlerhome.com>

On 02/17/2012 12:06 PM, Steve Young wrote:
> Anyone tried this out? If so, was it useful?
> https://github.com/django-debug-toolbar/django-debug-toolbar

I've used it too -- it does help you figure out why pages are slow, etc. 
Like an Admin Listing page in Satchmo taking  1400 queries to bring up. 
Egads.

>
> A short video from a couple of years ago here:  http://vimeo.com/6640136
>
> I am about thru the Practical Django Projects book - it has been very
> helpful - although it would have been tough if someone hadn't posted the
> updated code for 1.3 on github.
>
> I also found a nice Django cheat sheet here:
> http://www.revsys.com/django/cheatsheet/
>
> Django is nice because it does so much, but it is almost like learning a
> new language!
Django is an interesting beast -- it's a subset of Python but sometimes 
keep knowledge of Python can hurt more than help. I have manage a fairly 
large Satchmo site (ecommerce engine for Django) and the site stuff 
wasn't hard, but the offline processes that re-do inventory and 
processes every night have been troublesome. I had to learn how to 
manage transactions, clear the DB cache, etc.

For the record, the site is:
http://www.powerhousetoolparts.com/ <http://www.powerhousetoolparts.com//>

(I take no credit for the design -- I purely did the backend).

> Steve
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
Mike


From newz at bearfruit.org  Fri Feb 17 22:48:00 2012
From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:48:00 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Django Debug Toolbar
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzhbkbPvyDxRZQfy0LG6vLrFNH3bDs_KwOueA_qUVnszvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzhbkbPvyDxRZQfy0LG6vLrFNH3bDs_KwOueA_qUVnszvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN+aQ9w5Zhoz6L_8oaHr9ZoUWpCz=rp4cJPEPWZEVjVpqNq+DA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Anyone tried this out? If so, was it useful?
> https://github.com/django-debug-toolbar/django-debug-toolbar
>
> A short video from a couple of years ago here:  http://vimeo.com/6640136
>
>
It can be quite helpful. For example, I found a page where I needed to use
select_related to reduce the number of queries from n+1 to simply 2.



> I am about thru the Practical Django Projects book - it has been very
> helpful - although it would have been tough if someone hadn't posted the
> updated code for 1.3 on github.
>
> I also found a nice Django cheat sheet here:
> http://www.revsys.com/django/cheatsheet/
>
> Django is nice because it does so much, but it is almost like learning a
> new language!
>
>

Yes, it is different. I like it a lot and use it for work and for fun.
However it is not a magic bullet. (Nor is Rails)

Frameworks like Django make some common tasks trivial, but the 80/20 rule
always applies. 80% of your time is spent on the last 20% of the project.
And a helpful library doesn't mean you don't still need good software
engineering. It just does some of the brainless tasks for you.

-- 
Matthew Nuzum
newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin and twitter

? You're never fully dressed without a smile! ?

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 18 02:20:18 2012
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:20:18 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting @ Google?
In-Reply-To: <639579.83177.qm@smtp110-mob.biz.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <639579.83177.qm@smtp110-mob.biz.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA+aHcdCpxwBpbjWoqp-Rt-wKXu_=o5KDgN0PATms3t9NA1qtzw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going to head over, finally going to attend a meeting. I work in
Omaha, 114th and dodge, so much before 6 (especially as early as
5-5:30) is going to be tough. New guy doesn't get to pick the time
though, so I'll work it out to show up whenever it works for everyone.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:51 PM, arik.gokhan at yahoo.com.tr
<arik.gokhan at yahoo.com.tr> wrote:
> Can we make meeting before 6? Around 5 - 5.30. I will attend anyway but earlier would be better for me.
>
> Gokhan Arik
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Mon Feb 20 05:53:20 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:53:20 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Online Python Tutor
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-1WZz26RK5ufZobWNwUP6PB4h8m6Z6d2FQbtGcqhBeGw@mail.gmail.com>

http://people.csail.mit.edu/pgbovine/python/tutor.html#mode=edit

Ok, this is cool.  Visualize python code.  Shows what happens during code
execution.  Nice teaching tools wrt variables mem locations v. Tagging.

Best,
Jeff Hinrichs

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Mon Feb 20 14:56:03 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:56:03 -0600
Subject: [omaha] =?windows-1252?q?Matt_Harrison=3A_President=92s_Day_Decor?=
	=?windows-1252?q?ator_Sale?=
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_n5cr8WyDyrDWU7nOu1yxs6TD3T-OwEQG8wp8ewA5RfA@mail.gmail.com>

Matt Harrison is offering his book on Python decorators for free today.
It's a 1 day sale.

http://hairysun.com/blog/2012/02/19/presidents-day-decorator-sale/

Also., this month's meeting is Wed.  Not tonight.  Check the mailing list
for details.

Best,
Jeff Hinrichs

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 15:12:01 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:12:01 -0600
Subject: [omaha]
	=?windows-1252?q?Matt_Harrison=3A_President=92s_Day_Decor?=
	=?windows-1252?q?ator_Sale?=
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_n5cr8WyDyrDWU7nOu1yxs6TD3T-OwEQG8wp8ewA5RfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO_n5cr8WyDyrDWU7nOu1yxs6TD3T-OwEQG8wp8ewA5RfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzziRiBhWigdMbJuH3P1tvqezjQ0q6Vu5MfugLvFBCih24Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jeff!  I have used decorators only a little, and only when following
an example.


On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Matt Harrison is offering his book on Python decorators for free today.
> It's a 1 day sale.
>
> http://hairysun.com/blog/2012/02/19/presidents-day-decorator-sale/
>
> Also., this month's meeting is Wed.  Not tonight.  Check the mailing list
> for details.
>
> Best,
> Jeff Hinrichs
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From elicriffield at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 20:40:56 2012
From: elicriffield at gmail.com (Eli Criffield)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:40:56 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Update on Meeting Tomorrow, Where to go.
Message-ID: <CAMvt5y7=O-VT-KvOfCNJMNVJyOkeVXBYY7o0Ha7bunV4bey5ug@mail.gmail.com>

Here's The Plan.

I didn't think to also take everyone's email address so I'm just going
to email the instructions of what to do to the list.
If you're name is not in this list, something went wrong and you
didn't get it filled out right and i'm sorry but it's to late now.
Please don't ask. I can't change it now. Sorry :(

Jeff Hinrichs
Joseph R. Gulizia
Jay Hannah
naomi grace see
Ralph Steve Young
Timothy Alexander
Shawn Hermans
Chad Homan
Tom Seiler
Susannah Go

Here is the address;  "1430 Veterans Memorial Hwy, Council Bluffs, IA
51501"  It is the the south entrance, right accost the street from
Leach Camper Sales.

http://g.co/maps/3j3v5

That street view shows the white guard shack, stay to the right of
that, they will ask for you're ID, and ask you to sign an NDA. Once
all that checks out you pull ahead to the building with the 1430 on it
(You will need to take a sharp right) And go almost to the far end to
The door with a 4 marked on it (I'll try to have some signs with
"Python Meeting" or something). You can park right in front of it.
There should be plenty of spots. I will meet you there.

I guess at some point I may want to join in the fun and stop directing
people so i'll tell them to stop letting people in, I'll play that by
ear i guess.

If that doesn't make sense ask now.

See you tomorrow.

Eli

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 21 23:57:04 2012
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:57:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [omaha] Update on Meeting Tomorrow, Where to go.
In-Reply-To: <CAMvt5y7=O-VT-KvOfCNJMNVJyOkeVXBYY7o0Ha7bunV4bey5ug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMvt5y7=O-VT-KvOfCNJMNVJyOkeVXBYY7o0Ha7bunV4bey5ug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1329865024.65951.YahooMailNeo@web112801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

We are allowed to bring in food and 1 bag/laptop/tablet?

Joe



________________________________
 From: Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:40 PM
Subject: [omaha] Update on Meeting Tomorrow, Where to go.
 
Here's The Plan.

I didn't think to also take everyone's email address so I'm just going
to email the instructions of what to do to the list.
If you're name is not in this list, something went wrong and you
didn't get it filled out right and i'm sorry but it's to late now.
Please don't ask. I can't change it now. Sorry :(

Jeff Hinrichs
Joseph R. Gulizia
Jay Hannah
naomi grace see
Ralph Steve Young
Timothy Alexander
Shawn Hermans
Chad Homan
Tom Seiler
Susannah Go

Here is the address;? "1430 Veterans Memorial Hwy, Council Bluffs, IA
51501"? It is the the south entrance, right accost the street from
Leach Camper Sales.

http://g.co/maps/3j3v5

That street view shows the white guard shack, stay to the right of
that, they will ask for you're ID, and ask you to sign an NDA. Once
all that checks out you pull ahead to the building with the 1430 on it
(You will need to take a sharp right) And go almost to the far end to
The door with a 4 marked on it (I'll try to have some signs with
"Python Meeting" or something). You can park right in front of it.
There should be plenty of spots. I will meet you there.

I guess at some point I may want to join in the fun and stop directing
people so i'll tell them to stop letting people in, I'll play that by
ear i guess.

If that doesn't make sense ask now.

See you tomorrow.

Eli
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From elicriffield at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 05:50:36 2012
From: elicriffield at gmail.com (Eli Criffield)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:50:36 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Update on Meeting Tomorrow, Where to go.
In-Reply-To: <1329865024.65951.YahooMailNeo@web112801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAMvt5y7=O-VT-KvOfCNJMNVJyOkeVXBYY7o0Ha7bunV4bey5ug@mail.gmail.com>
	<1329865024.65951.YahooMailNeo@web112801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAMvt5y6qkKBJ_kRqJopmdpfQT_1zBicp=jbwE8Q0wbLtenqFVQ@mail.gmail.com>

You can bring food if you want, but we'll have food.

And laptops, tablets, and bags are fine.

Eli

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> We are allowed to bring in food and 1 bag/laptop/tablet?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> ?From: Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:40 PM
> Subject: [omaha] Update on Meeting Tomorrow, Where to go.
>
> Here's The Plan.
>
> I didn't think to also take everyone's email address so I'm just going
> to email the instructions of what to do to the list.
> If you're name is not in this list, something went wrong and you
> didn't get it filled out right and i'm sorry but it's to late now.
> Please don't ask. I can't change it now. Sorry :(
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> Joseph R. Gulizia
> Jay Hannah
> naomi grace see
> Ralph Steve Young
> Timothy Alexander
> Shawn Hermans
> Chad Homan
> Tom Seiler
> Susannah Go
>
> Here is the address;? "1430 Veterans Memorial Hwy, Council Bluffs, IA
> 51501"? It is the the south entrance, right accost the street from
> Leach Camper Sales.
>
> http://g.co/maps/3j3v5
>
> That street view shows the white guard shack, stay to the right of
> that, they will ask for you're ID, and ask you to sign an NDA. Once
> all that checks out you pull ahead to the building with the 1430 on it
> (You will need to take a sharp right) And go almost to the far end to
> The door with a 4 marked on it (I'll try to have some signs with
> "Python Meeting" or something). You can park right in front of it.
> There should be plenty of spots. I will meet you there.
>
> I guess at some point I may want to join in the fun and stop directing
> people so i'll tell them to stop letting people in, I'll play that by
> ear i guess.
>
> If that doesn't make sense ask now.
>
> See you tomorrow.
>
> Eli
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From elicriffield at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 05:55:56 2012
From: elicriffield at gmail.com (Eli Criffield)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:55:56 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Update on Meeting Tomorrow, Where to go.
In-Reply-To: <CAMvt5y7=O-VT-KvOfCNJMNVJyOkeVXBYY7o0Ha7bunV4bey5ug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMvt5y7=O-VT-KvOfCNJMNVJyOkeVXBYY7o0Ha7bunV4bey5ug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMvt5y6U3d-v6oa6BRMCx0wCNgLG2XwsJ31gs1DKKe0SOytt3g@mail.gmail.com>

And the time 6pm if you want to socialize and eat. We have some people
chipping in for food (pizza) and drink so don't worry about bringing
any. 6:30 we'll start presentations. Laptops or tablets in a bag are
fine to bring in. The topics will be Python related, not google
related :)

Eli


On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's The Plan.
>
> I didn't think to also take everyone's email address so I'm just going
> to email the instructions of what to do to the list.
> If you're name is not in this list, something went wrong and you
> didn't get it filled out right and i'm sorry but it's to late now.
> Please don't ask. I can't change it now. Sorry :(
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> Joseph R. Gulizia
> Jay Hannah
> naomi grace see
> Ralph Steve Young
> Timothy Alexander
> Shawn Hermans
> Chad Homan
> Tom Seiler
> Susannah Go
>
> Here is the address; ?"1430 Veterans Memorial Hwy, Council Bluffs, IA
> 51501" ?It is the the south entrance, right accost the street from
> Leach Camper Sales.
>
> http://g.co/maps/3j3v5
>
> That street view shows the white guard shack, stay to the right of
> that, they will ask for you're ID, and ask you to sign an NDA. Once
> all that checks out you pull ahead to the building with the 1430 on it
> (You will need to take a sharp right) And go almost to the far end to
> The door with a 4 marked on it (I'll try to have some signs with
> "Python Meeting" or something). You can park right in front of it.
> There should be plenty of spots. I will meet you there.
>
> I guess at some point I may want to join in the fun and stop directing
> people so i'll tell them to stop letting people in, I'll play that by
> ear i guess.
>
> If that doesn't make sense ask now.
>
> See you tomorrow.
>
> Eli

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 22 15:28:05 2012
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:28:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [omaha] Update on Meeting Tomorrow, Where to go.
In-Reply-To: <CAMvt5y6U3d-v6oa6BRMCx0wCNgLG2XwsJ31gs1DKKe0SOytt3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMvt5y7=O-VT-KvOfCNJMNVJyOkeVXBYY7o0Ha7bunV4bey5ug@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMvt5y6U3d-v6oa6BRMCx0wCNgLG2XwsJ31gs1DKKe0SOytt3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1329920885.96522.YahooMailNeo@web112809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the info.? See you all tonight.

Joe Gulizia


________________________________
 From: Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [omaha] Update on Meeting Tomorrow, Where to go.
 
And the time 6pm if you want to socialize and eat. We have some people
chipping in for food (pizza) and drink so don't worry about bringing
any. 6:30 we'll start presentations. Laptops or tablets in a bag are
fine to bring in. The topics will be Python related, not google
related :)

Eli


On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's The Plan.
>
> I didn't think to also take everyone's email address so I'm just going
> to email the instructions of what to do to the list.
> If you're name is not in this list, something went wrong and you
> didn't get it filled out right and i'm sorry but it's to late now.
> Please don't ask. I can't change it now. Sorry :(
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> Joseph R. Gulizia
> Jay Hannah
> naomi grace see
> Ralph Steve Young
> Timothy Alexander
> Shawn Hermans
> Chad Homan
> Tom Seiler
> Susannah Go
>
> Here is the address; ?"1430 Veterans Memorial Hwy, Council Bluffs, IA
> 51501" ?It is the the south entrance, right accost the street from
> Leach Camper Sales.
>
> http://g.co/maps/3j3v5
>
> That street view shows the white guard shack, stay to the right of
> that, they will ask for you're ID, and ask you to sign an NDA. Once
> all that checks out you pull ahead to the building with the 1430 on it
> (You will need to take a sharp right) And go almost to the far end to
> The door with a 4 marked on it (I'll try to have some signs with
> "Python Meeting" or something). You can park right in front of it.
> There should be plenty of spots. I will meet you there.
>
> I guess at some point I may want to join in the fun and stop directing
> people so i'll tell them to stop letting people in, I'll play that by
> ear i guess.
>
> If that doesn't make sense ask now.
>
> See you tomorrow.
>
> Eli
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From arik.gokhan at yahoo.com.tr  Wed Feb 22 15:44:54 2012
From: arik.gokhan at yahoo.com.tr (gokhanarik)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:44:54 -0600
Subject: [omaha]  Update on Meeting Tomorrow, Where to go.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.32350.1329375929.27777.omaha@python.org>
References: <mailman.32350.1329375929.27777.omaha@python.org>
Message-ID: <187E27A4-1BDF-458B-BBAD-B20F35CCA6EB@yahoo.com.tr>

I have mentioned I will attend anyway but  I am not on the list?
Now, you are telling me you can not change the list.
This meeting was going to be my first meeting, not anymore.
Thanks

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 23 21:26:42 2012
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:26:42 -0600
Subject: [omaha] GAE support for web2py - Some corrections
Message-ID: <CA+aHcdDguoebMN+iZefN=ufgN5c+EG0UOweXShsJj3Vp=zdPgw@mail.gmail.com>

Wanted to post to the list, since I was inaccurate on a few things in
talking about GAE support in web2py. Some of the stuff I was thinking was
surrounding the googleSQL engine, and some of it was workarounds that I
thought were transparent (below). Here's a synopsis of
restrictions/workarounds/alternatives on GAE. Note, everything else in
web2py works as expected, other than the restrictions, most have relatively
straightforward workarounds (posted to the web2py mailing list for most of
them, some in the book itself, but most DB related in the
web2pyslices.comlink directly below)

First, the good stuff: In 1.69.1 (in 2009) "workarounds" were added to
web2py so that what can't be done in BigTable itself is done at the web2py
layer level. For example, joins, OR, orderby (including complex orderby),
LIKE, datetime manipulations, etc. Here's a great
page<http://www.web2pyslices.com/slices/take_slice/16>on those, and
they work quite well in my limited experience and from what I
hear. I believe it's not in the book because you have to be careful of
using these methods since they can potentially be quite inefficient
(performing evaluations in python of large data sets, rather than a
database).

Straight from the book, however:

*GAE also supports a Google SQL database (compatible with MySQL) and a
Google NoSQL (referred to as "Datastore").**
**web2py supports both. If you wish to use Google SQL database follow the
instructions on Chapter 6. This section assues you will be using the Google
Datastore.**
**The GAE platform provides several advantages over normal hosting
solutions:*


   - *Ease of deployment. Google completely abstracts the underlying
      architecture.*
      - *Scalability. Google will replicate your app as many times as it
      takes to serve all concurrent requests.*
      - *One can choose between a SQL and a NoSQL database (or both
      together).*

*But also some disadvantages:*


   - *No read or write access to the file system.*
      - *No HTTPS unless you use the appspot.com domain with a Google
      certificate.*

*and some Datastore specific disadvantages:*


   - *No typical transactions.*
      - *No complex datastore queries. In particular there are no JOIN,
      LIKE, and DATE/DATETIME operators.*
      - *No multiple OR sub-queries unless they involve one and the same
      field.*
      - *Because of the readonly filesystem, web2py cannot store sessions,
      error tickets, cache files and uploaded files in the filesystem;
they must
      be stored in the datastore and not in the filesystem.*

Also from another section of the book:

*Google NoSQL (Datastore) does not allow joins, left joins, aggregates,
expression, OR involving more than one table, the like operator and search
in "text"" fields. Transactions are limited and not provided automatically
by web2py (you need to use the Google API run_in_transaction which you can
look up in the Google App Engine documentation online). Google also limits
the number of records you can retrieve in each one query (1000 at the time
of writing). On the Google datastore record IDs are integer but they are
not sequential. While on SQL the "list:string" type is mapped into a "text"
type, on the Google Datastore it is mapped into aListStringProperty.
Similarly "list:integer" and "list:reference" are mapped into
"ListProperty". This makes that searches for content inside these fields
types are more efficient on Google NoSQL than on SQL databases.*


Note, joins and many to many relationships be worked around using
tagging<http://web2py.com/books/default/chapter/29/6#Many-to-many>,
and the "OR" restriction is worked around in the current DAL code by
essentially doing it programmatically. Text field search IS supported in
two ways, *kinda*. See this
post<http://www.billkatz.com/2009/6/Simple-Full-Text-Search-for-App-Engine>for
the idea behind how it's done. Essentially, it boils down to storage
of
ngrams into a stringlistproperty<http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/typesandpropertyclasses.html#StringListProperty>object,
which actually works quite well on GAE (been pleased with this
method for other stuff). If you just want simple, and not neccesarily
performant, this works fine too, though since it's run directly in web2py
it is more expensive (this is the semi-official way of doing in web2py):
db(...).select().find(lambda row: row.find('substring')>=0)

Eli, you were interested specifically in OR queries, here's the method as on
the slices page <http://www.web2pyslices.com/slices/take_slice/16> (with a
complex orderby thrown in). You can see the computation is done in web2py,
rather than the DB:
on RDBS

rows = db((purchase.buyer==kenny)|(purchase.buyer==cartman))\
         (purchase.buyer==buyer.id).select(orderby=buyer.name)

on RDBS and GAE

rows = (db(purchase.buyer==kenny).select()|db(purchase.buyer==cartman)\
       .select()).sort(lambda row:row.buyer.name)
print rows

From newz at bearfruit.org  Thu Feb 23 22:24:29 2012
From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:24:29 -0600
Subject: [omaha] GAE support for web2py - Some corrections
In-Reply-To: <CA+aHcdDguoebMN+iZefN=ufgN5c+EG0UOweXShsJj3Vp=zdPgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+aHcdDguoebMN+iZefN=ufgN5c+EG0UOweXShsJj3Vp=zdPgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN+aQ9x7e8dHYTv8Vij+85-E5-SK4TEgq8FJG_fE3OfmuUvr9w@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds interesting. I deployed a few apps to GAE, though not with web2py,
and I found one challenging issue: Bigger apps are unloaded from memory
rather quickly and can take 6 - 8 seconds to be loaded up. Therefore if
your app doesn't get frequent traffic (one page view per min or so) then
the first load will have a white-screen pause while it is loaded back into
memory.

It doesn't sound like much but it can be quite annoying. And because it
affects the first page view it happens before any images or css are loaded,
so you get nothing while you wait.

Out of curiosity, is this still an issue or is it resolved?

Also, how does someone get access to the googleSQL storage? Is it the same
thing as the Cloud SQL at https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/ ? My
googling takes me to app engine for business which is no longer offered.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Tim Alexander <dragonfyre13 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Wanted to post to the list, since I was inaccurate on a few things in
> talking about GAE support in web2py. Some of the stuff I was thinking was
> surrounding the googleSQL engine, and some of it was workarounds that I
> thought were transparent (below). Here's a synopsis of
> restrictions/workarounds/alternatives on GAE. Note, everything else in
> web2py works as expected, other than the restrictions, most have relatively
> straightforward workarounds (posted to the web2py mailing list for most of
> them, some in the book itself, but most DB related in the
> web2pyslices.comlink directly below)
>
> First, the good stuff: In 1.69.1 (in 2009) "workarounds" were added to
> web2py so that what can't be done in BigTable itself is done at the web2py
> layer level. For example, joins, OR, orderby (including complex orderby),
> LIKE, datetime manipulations, etc. Here's a great
> page<http://www.web2pyslices.com/slices/take_slice/16>on those, and
> they work quite well in my limited experience and from what I
> hear. I believe it's not in the book because you have to be careful of
> using these methods since they can potentially be quite inefficient
> (performing evaluations in python of large data sets, rather than a
> database).
>
> Straight from the book, however:
>
> *GAE also supports a Google SQL database (compatible with MySQL) and a
> Google NoSQL (referred to as "Datastore").**
> **web2py supports both. If you wish to use Google SQL database follow the
> instructions on Chapter 6. This section assues you will be using the Google
> Datastore.**
> **The GAE platform provides several advantages over normal hosting
> solutions:*
>
>
>   - *Ease of deployment. Google completely abstracts the underlying
>      architecture.*
>      - *Scalability. Google will replicate your app as many times as it
>      takes to serve all concurrent requests.*
>      - *One can choose between a SQL and a NoSQL database (or both
>      together).*
>
> *But also some disadvantages:*
>
>
>   - *No read or write access to the file system.*
>      - *No HTTPS unless you use the appspot.com domain with a Google
>      certificate.*
>
> *and some Datastore specific disadvantages:*
>
>
>   - *No typical transactions.*
>      - *No complex datastore queries. In particular there are no JOIN,
>      LIKE, and DATE/DATETIME operators.*
>      - *No multiple OR sub-queries unless they involve one and the same
>      field.*
>      - *Because of the readonly filesystem, web2py cannot store sessions,
>      error tickets, cache files and uploaded files in the filesystem;
> they must
>      be stored in the datastore and not in the filesystem.*
>
> Also from another section of the book:
>
> *Google NoSQL (Datastore) does not allow joins, left joins, aggregates,
> expression, OR involving more than one table, the like operator and search
> in "text"" fields. Transactions are limited and not provided automatically
> by web2py (you need to use the Google API run_in_transaction which you can
> look up in the Google App Engine documentation online). Google also limits
> the number of records you can retrieve in each one query (1000 at the time
> of writing). On the Google datastore record IDs are integer but they are
> not sequential. While on SQL the "list:string" type is mapped into a "text"
> type, on the Google Datastore it is mapped into aListStringProperty.
> Similarly "list:integer" and "list:reference" are mapped into
> "ListProperty". This makes that searches for content inside these fields
> types are more efficient on Google NoSQL than on SQL databases.*
>
>
> Note, joins and many to many relationships be worked around using
> tagging<http://web2py.com/books/default/chapter/29/6#Many-to-many>,
> and the "OR" restriction is worked around in the current DAL code by
> essentially doing it programmatically. Text field search IS supported in
> two ways, *kinda*. See this
> post<http://www.billkatz.com/2009/6/Simple-Full-Text-Search-for-App-Engine
> >for
> the idea behind how it's done. Essentially, it boils down to storage
> of
> ngrams into a stringlistproperty<
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/typesandpropertyclasses.html#StringListProperty
> >object,
> which actually works quite well on GAE (been pleased with this
> method for other stuff). If you just want simple, and not neccesarily
> performant, this works fine too, though since it's run directly in web2py
> it is more expensive (this is the semi-official way of doing in web2py):
> db(...).select().find(lambda row: row.find('substring')>=0)
>
> Eli, you were interested specifically in OR queries, here's the method as
> on
> the slices page <http://www.web2pyslices.com/slices/take_slice/16> (with a
> complex orderby thrown in). You can see the computation is done in web2py,
> rather than the DB:
> on RDBS
>
> rows = db((purchase.buyer==kenny)|(purchase.buyer==cartman))\
>         (purchase.buyer==buyer.id).select(orderby=buyer.name)
>
> on RDBS and GAE
>
> rows = (db(purchase.buyer==kenny).select()|db(purchase.buyer==cartman)\
>       .select()).sort(lambda row:row.buyer.name)
> print rows
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Matthew Nuzum
newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin and twitter

? You're never fully dressed without a smile! ?

From jaybocc2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 23 22:34:31 2012
From: jaybocc2 at gmail.com (Jay Bendon)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:34:31 -0600
Subject: [omaha] GAE support for web2py - Some corrections
In-Reply-To: <CAN+aQ9x7e8dHYTv8Vij+85-E5-SK4TEgq8FJG_fE3OfmuUvr9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+aHcdDguoebMN+iZefN=ufgN5c+EG0UOweXShsJj3Vp=zdPgw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN+aQ9x7e8dHYTv8Vij+85-E5-SK4TEgq8FJG_fE3OfmuUvr9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO630Un8Buhr01kiJskJ=OhMDhVom0qtX0if9Sd+YrrrBb9+pQ@mail.gmail.com>

You can set a certain number of warmup requests so that when your app needs
a new instance it pre-starts it. or it keeps hitting the one you have alive
so that it stays alive.

http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/instances.html#Warmup_Requests
--Jay


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org> wrote:

> Sounds interesting. I deployed a few apps to GAE, though not with web2py,
> and I found one challenging issue: Bigger apps are unloaded from memory
> rather quickly and can take 6 - 8 seconds to be loaded up. Therefore if
> your app doesn't get frequent traffic (one page view per min or so) then
> the first load will have a white-screen pause while it is loaded back into
> memory.
>
> It doesn't sound like much but it can be quite annoying. And because it
> affects the first page view it happens before any images or css are loaded,
> so you get nothing while you wait.
>
> Out of curiosity, is this still an issue or is it resolved?
>
> Also, how does someone get access to the googleSQL storage? Is it the same
> thing as the Cloud SQL at https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/ ? My
> googling takes me to app engine for business which is no longer offered.
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Tim Alexander <dragonfyre13 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Wanted to post to the list, since I was inaccurate on a few things in
> > talking about GAE support in web2py. Some of the stuff I was thinking was
> > surrounding the googleSQL engine, and some of it was workarounds that I
> > thought were transparent (below). Here's a synopsis of
> > restrictions/workarounds/alternatives on GAE. Note, everything else in
> > web2py works as expected, other than the restrictions, most have
> relatively
> > straightforward workarounds (posted to the web2py mailing list for most
> of
> > them, some in the book itself, but most DB related in the
> > web2pyslices.comlink directly below)
> >
> > First, the good stuff: In 1.69.1 (in 2009) "workarounds" were added to
> > web2py so that what can't be done in BigTable itself is done at the
> web2py
> > layer level. For example, joins, OR, orderby (including complex orderby),
> > LIKE, datetime manipulations, etc. Here's a great
> > page<http://www.web2pyslices.com/slices/take_slice/16>on those, and
> > they work quite well in my limited experience and from what I
> > hear. I believe it's not in the book because you have to be careful of
> > using these methods since they can potentially be quite inefficient
> > (performing evaluations in python of large data sets, rather than a
> > database).
> >
> > Straight from the book, however:
> >
> > *GAE also supports a Google SQL database (compatible with MySQL) and a
> > Google NoSQL (referred to as "Datastore").**
> > **web2py supports both. If you wish to use Google SQL database follow the
> > instructions on Chapter 6. This section assues you will be using the
> Google
> > Datastore.**
> > **The GAE platform provides several advantages over normal hosting
> > solutions:*
> >
> >
> >   - *Ease of deployment. Google completely abstracts the underlying
> >      architecture.*
> >      - *Scalability. Google will replicate your app as many times as it
> >      takes to serve all concurrent requests.*
> >      - *One can choose between a SQL and a NoSQL database (or both
> >      together).*
> >
> > *But also some disadvantages:*
> >
> >
> >   - *No read or write access to the file system.*
> >      - *No HTTPS unless you use the appspot.com domain with a Google
> >      certificate.*
> >
> > *and some Datastore specific disadvantages:*
> >
> >
> >   - *No typical transactions.*
> >      - *No complex datastore queries. In particular there are no JOIN,
> >      LIKE, and DATE/DATETIME operators.*
> >      - *No multiple OR sub-queries unless they involve one and the same
> >      field.*
> >      - *Because of the readonly filesystem, web2py cannot store sessions,
> >      error tickets, cache files and uploaded files in the filesystem;
> > they must
> >      be stored in the datastore and not in the filesystem.*
> >
> > Also from another section of the book:
> >
> > *Google NoSQL (Datastore) does not allow joins, left joins, aggregates,
> > expression, OR involving more than one table, the like operator and
> search
> > in "text"" fields. Transactions are limited and not provided
> automatically
> > by web2py (you need to use the Google API run_in_transaction which you
> can
> > look up in the Google App Engine documentation online). Google also
> limits
> > the number of records you can retrieve in each one query (1000 at the
> time
> > of writing). On the Google datastore record IDs are integer but they are
> > not sequential. While on SQL the "list:string" type is mapped into a
> "text"
> > type, on the Google Datastore it is mapped into aListStringProperty.
> > Similarly "list:integer" and "list:reference" are mapped into
> > "ListProperty". This makes that searches for content inside these fields
> > types are more efficient on Google NoSQL than on SQL databases.*
> >
> >
> > Note, joins and many to many relationships be worked around using
> > tagging<http://web2py.com/books/default/chapter/29/6#Many-to-many>,
> > and the "OR" restriction is worked around in the current DAL code by
> > essentially doing it programmatically. Text field search IS supported in
> > two ways, *kinda*. See this
> > post<
> http://www.billkatz.com/2009/6/Simple-Full-Text-Search-for-App-Engine
> > >for
> > the idea behind how it's done. Essentially, it boils down to storage
> > of
> > ngrams into a stringlistproperty<
> >
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/typesandpropertyclasses.html#StringListProperty
> > >object,
> > which actually works quite well on GAE (been pleased with this
> > method for other stuff). If you just want simple, and not neccesarily
> > performant, this works fine too, though since it's run directly in web2py
> > it is more expensive (this is the semi-official way of doing in web2py):
> > db(...).select().find(lambda row: row.find('substring')>=0)
> >
> > Eli, you were interested specifically in OR queries, here's the method as
> > on
> > the slices page <http://www.web2pyslices.com/slices/take_slice/16>
> (with a
> > complex orderby thrown in). You can see the computation is done in
> web2py,
> > rather than the DB:
> > on RDBS
> >
> > rows = db((purchase.buyer==kenny)|(purchase.buyer==cartman))\
> >         (purchase.buyer==buyer.id).select(orderby=buyer.name)
> >
> > on RDBS and GAE
> >
> > rows = (db(purchase.buyer==kenny).select()|db(purchase.buyer==cartman)\
> >       .select()).sort(lambda row:row.buyer.name)
> > print rows
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthew Nuzum
> newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin and twitter
>
> ? You're never fully dressed without a smile! ?
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 23 22:44:32 2012
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:44:32 -0600
Subject: [omaha] GAE support for web2py - Some corrections
In-Reply-To: <CAO630Un8Buhr01kiJskJ=OhMDhVom0qtX0if9Sd+YrrrBb9+pQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+aHcdDguoebMN+iZefN=ufgN5c+EG0UOweXShsJj3Vp=zdPgw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN+aQ9x7e8dHYTv8Vij+85-E5-SK4TEgq8FJG_fE3OfmuUvr9w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO630Un8Buhr01kiJskJ=OhMDhVom0qtX0if9Sd+YrrrBb9+pQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+aHcdAGit1eiY9uBwn56z+tv0XjVDc-eLrVaYrC=XEzjz151w@mail.gmail.com>

For googleSQL/clouidSQL usage, need to go to your API console and click
request access. https://code.google.com/apis/console

They'll take a look, and get back to you about adding you to the private
beta.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You can set a certain number of warmup requests so that when your app needs
> a new instance it pre-starts it. or it keeps hitting the one you have alive
> so that it stays alive.
>
>
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/instances.html#Warmup_Requests
> --Jay
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org> wrote:
>
> > Sounds interesting. I deployed a few apps to GAE, though not with web2py,
> > and I found one challenging issue: Bigger apps are unloaded from memory
> > rather quickly and can take 6 - 8 seconds to be loaded up. Therefore if
> > your app doesn't get frequent traffic (one page view per min or so) then
> > the first load will have a white-screen pause while it is loaded back
> into
> > memory.
> >
> > It doesn't sound like much but it can be quite annoying. And because it
> > affects the first page view it happens before any images or css are
> loaded,
> > so you get nothing while you wait.
> >
> > Out of curiosity, is this still an issue or is it resolved?
> >
> > Also, how does someone get access to the googleSQL storage? Is it the
> same
> > thing as the Cloud SQL at https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/ ? My
> > googling takes me to app engine for business which is no longer offered.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Tim Alexander <dragonfyre13 at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Wanted to post to the list, since I was inaccurate on a few things in
> > > talking about GAE support in web2py. Some of the stuff I was thinking
> was
> > > surrounding the googleSQL engine, and some of it was workarounds that I
> > > thought were transparent (below). Here's a synopsis of
> > > restrictions/workarounds/alternatives on GAE. Note, everything else in
> > > web2py works as expected, other than the restrictions, most have
> > relatively
> > > straightforward workarounds (posted to the web2py mailing list for most
> > of
> > > them, some in the book itself, but most DB related in the
> > > web2pyslices.comlink directly below)
> > >
> > > First, the good stuff: In 1.69.1 (in 2009) "workarounds" were added to
> > > web2py so that what can't be done in BigTable itself is done at the
> > web2py
> > > layer level. For example, joins, OR, orderby (including complex
> orderby),
> > > LIKE, datetime manipulations, etc. Here's a great
> > > page<http://www.web2pyslices.com/slices/take_slice/16>on those, and
> > > they work quite well in my limited experience and from what I
> > > hear. I believe it's not in the book because you have to be careful of
> > > using these methods since they can potentially be quite inefficient
> > > (performing evaluations in python of large data sets, rather than a
> > > database).
> > >
> > > Straight from the book, however:
> > >
> > > *GAE also supports a Google SQL database (compatible with MySQL) and a
> > > Google NoSQL (referred to as "Datastore").**
> > > **web2py supports both. If you wish to use Google SQL database follow
> the
> > > instructions on Chapter 6. This section assues you will be using the
> > Google
> > > Datastore.**
> > > **The GAE platform provides several advantages over normal hosting
> > > solutions:*
> > >
> > >
> > >   - *Ease of deployment. Google completely abstracts the underlying
> > >      architecture.*
> > >      - *Scalability. Google will replicate your app as many times as it
> > >      takes to serve all concurrent requests.*
> > >      - *One can choose between a SQL and a NoSQL database (or both
> > >      together).*
> > >
> > > *But also some disadvantages:*
> > >
> > >
> > >   - *No read or write access to the file system.*
> > >      - *No HTTPS unless you use the appspot.com domain with a Google
> > >      certificate.*
> > >
> > > *and some Datastore specific disadvantages:*
> > >
> > >
> > >   - *No typical transactions.*
> > >      - *No complex datastore queries. In particular there are no JOIN,
> > >      LIKE, and DATE/DATETIME operators.*
> > >      - *No multiple OR sub-queries unless they involve one and the same
> > >      field.*
> > >      - *Because of the readonly filesystem, web2py cannot store
> sessions,
> > >      error tickets, cache files and uploaded files in the filesystem;
> > > they must
> > >      be stored in the datastore and not in the filesystem.*
> > >
> > > Also from another section of the book:
> > >
> > > *Google NoSQL (Datastore) does not allow joins, left joins, aggregates,
> > > expression, OR involving more than one table, the like operator and
> > search
> > > in "text"" fields. Transactions are limited and not provided
> > automatically
> > > by web2py (you need to use the Google API run_in_transaction which you
> > can
> > > look up in the Google App Engine documentation online). Google also
> > limits
> > > the number of records you can retrieve in each one query (1000 at the
> > time
> > > of writing). On the Google datastore record IDs are integer but they
> are
> > > not sequential. While on SQL the "list:string" type is mapped into a
> > "text"
> > > type, on the Google Datastore it is mapped into aListStringProperty.
> > > Similarly "list:integer" and "list:reference" are mapped into
> > > "ListProperty". This makes that searches for content inside these
> fields
> > > types are more efficient on Google NoSQL than on SQL databases.*
> > >
> > >
> > > Note, joins and many to many relationships be worked around using
> > > tagging<http://web2py.com/books/default/chapter/29/6#Many-to-many>,
> > > and the "OR" restriction is worked around in the current DAL code by
> > > essentially doing it programmatically. Text field search IS supported
> in
> > > two ways, *kinda*. See this
> > > post<
> > http://www.billkatz.com/2009/6/Simple-Full-Text-Search-for-App-Engine
> > > >for
> > > the idea behind how it's done. Essentially, it boils down to storage
> > > of
> > > ngrams into a stringlistproperty<
> > >
> >
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/typesandpropertyclasses.html#StringListProperty
> > > >object,
> > > which actually works quite well on GAE (been pleased with this
> > > method for other stuff). If you just want simple, and not neccesarily
> > > performant, this works fine too, though since it's run directly in
> web2py
> > > it is more expensive (this is the semi-official way of doing in
> web2py):
> > > db(...).select().find(lambda row: row.find('substring')>=0)
> > >
> > > Eli, you were interested specifically in OR queries, here's the method
> as
> > > on
> > > the slices page <http://www.web2pyslices.com/slices/take_slice/16>
> > (with a
> > > complex orderby thrown in). You can see the computation is done in
> > web2py,
> > > rather than the DB:
> > > on RDBS
> > >
> > > rows = db((purchase.buyer==kenny)|(purchase.buyer==cartman))\
> > >         (purchase.buyer==buyer.id).select(orderby=buyer.name)
> > >
> > > on RDBS and GAE
> > >
> > > rows = (db(purchase.buyer==kenny).select()|db(purchase.buyer==cartman)\
> > >       .select()).sort(lambda row:row.buyer.name)
> > > print rows
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthew Nuzum
> > newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin and twitter
> >
> > ? You're never fully dressed without a smile! ?
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Fri Feb 24 06:03:59 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:03:59 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-hXDL_JBPEtA7QoAFOz9W4JbkFb+MxxtCK4FER7M=TFA@mail.gmail.com>

I just wanted to thank Eli for pulling this meeting together.  Also, thank
you to Chris and Jay for giving Eli a hand.  I look forward to next month's
meeting.

With respect to next month's meeting, does Wednesday night work better than
Monday?  I would be in favor of changing the meeting night if it would
allow more people attend.

Thank you to everyone who came, I really enjoyed meeting you.

For next month's meeting I have an O'Reilly book to give out as a door
prize.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 24 14:06:00 2012
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:06:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO-hXDL_JBPEtA7QoAFOz9W4JbkFb+MxxtCK4FER7M=TFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-hXDL_JBPEtA7QoAFOz9W4JbkFb+MxxtCK4FER7M=TFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1330088760.94544.YahooMailNeo@web112808.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Wednesday nights work better for me.

Joe Gulizia



________________________________
 From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:03 PM
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
 
I just wanted to thank Eli for pulling this meeting together.? Also, thank
you to Chris and Jay for giving Eli a hand.? I look forward to next month's
meeting.

With respect to next month's meeting, does Wednesday night work better than
Monday?? I would be in favor of changing the meeting night if it would
allow more people attend.

Thank you to everyone who came, I really enjoyed meeting you.

For next month's meeting I have an O'Reilly book to give out as a door
prize.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu  Fri Feb 24 14:11:30 2012
From: bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu (Burch Kealey)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:11:30 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
In-Reply-To: <1330088760.94544.YahooMailNeo@web112808.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1330088760.94544.YahooMailNeo@web112808.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
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Message-ID: <OFD3CDBD03.1E9E0FE8-ON862579AE.00487709-862579AE.00487714@unomaha.edu
	>


From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 24 14:09:41 2012
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:09:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO-hXDL_JBPEtA7QoAFOz9W4JbkFb+MxxtCK4FER7M=TFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-hXDL_JBPEtA7QoAFOz9W4JbkFb+MxxtCK4FER7M=TFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1330088981.95935.YahooMailNeo@web112811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'd also like to thank Eli, Jay and Chris for hosting the meeting.? I look forward to upcoming meetings at other sites as well as Lansky's.

Joe Gulizia



________________________________
 From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:03 PM
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
 
I just wanted to thank Eli for pulling this meeting together.? Also, thank
you to Chris and Jay for giving Eli a hand.? I look forward to next month's
meeting.

With respect to next month's meeting, does Wednesday night work better than
Monday?? I would be in favor of changing the meeting night if it would
allow more people attend.

Thank you to everyone who came, I really enjoyed meeting you.

For next month's meeting I have an O'Reilly book to give out as a door
prize.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From shawnhermans at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 15:27:22 2012
From: shawnhermans at gmail.com (Shawn Hermans)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:27:22 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
In-Reply-To: <1330088981.95935.YahooMailNeo@web112811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <CALHZEO-hXDL_JBPEtA7QoAFOz9W4JbkFb+MxxtCK4FER7M=TFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1330088981.95935.YahooMailNeo@web112811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABT9k_CVcSsB0Xacdp4jR0j_yj2ZL+mcMO3UxZ7_rT584Thw1Q@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know if you guys are looking for topics for follow-up meetings, but
I have a few I could talk about if people were interested.   Last semester
I took a course on Hadoop and was able to convert my teacher to writing
Hadoop jobs using Python (any converts away from Java is good).  Writing
MapReduce using Python is pretty neat and really easy.  I also recently
worked a really neat project where I integrated Python and Java programs
using Redis.  If we hold the meetings on Wednesday, I might be able to show
up.

Shawn

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'd also like to thank Eli, Jay and Chris for hosting the meeting.  I look
> forward to upcoming meetings at other sites as well as Lansky's.
>
> Joe Gulizia
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:03 PM
> Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
>
> I just wanted to thank Eli for pulling this meeting together.  Also, thank
> you to Chris and Jay for giving Eli a hand.  I look forward to next month's
> meeting.
>
> With respect to next month's meeting, does Wednesday night work better than
> Monday?  I would be in favor of changing the meeting night if it would
> allow more people attend.
>
> Thank you to everyone who came, I really enjoyed meeting you.
>
> For next month's meeting I have an O'Reilly book to give out as a door
> prize.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu  Fri Feb 24 15:42:59 2012
From: bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu (Burch Kealey)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:42:59 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
In-Reply-To: <CABT9k_CVcSsB0Xacdp4jR0j_yj2ZL+mcMO3UxZ7_rT584Thw1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-hXDL_JBPEtA7QoAFOz9W4JbkFb+MxxtCK4FER7M=TFA@mail.gmail.com>	<1330088981.95935.YahooMailNeo@web112811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <OFFCBAFAFA.9B76E32B-ON862579AE.0050CF51-862579AE.0050D6FB@unomaha.edu
	>

Where did you take a course on Hadoop?

Burch T Kealey PhD.
William C Hockett Professor of Accounting
Director MAcc Program

6001 Dodge Street
MH-228 CC
Omaha, NE 68182
Physical Address 67th and Pine Street

Phone-402-554-3571
FAX-402-554-3747



From:
Shawn Hermans <shawnhermans at gmail.com>
To:
Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
Date:
02/24/2012 08:27 AM
Subject:
Re: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
Sent by:
omaha-bounces+bkealey=mail.unomaha.edu at python.org



I don't know if you guys are looking for topics for follow-up meetings, 
but
I have a few I could talk about if people were interested.   Last semester
I took a course on Hadoop and was able to convert my teacher to writing
Hadoop jobs using Python (any converts away from Java is good).  Writing
MapReduce using Python is pretty neat and really easy.  I also recently
worked a really neat project where I integrated Python and Java programs
using Redis.  If we hold the meetings on Wednesday, I might be able to 
show
up.

Shawn

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'd also like to thank Eli, Jay and Chris for hosting the meeting.  I 
look
> forward to upcoming meetings at other sites as well as Lansky's.
>
> Joe Gulizia
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:03 PM
> Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
>
> I just wanted to thank Eli for pulling this meeting together.  Also, 
thank
> you to Chris and Jay for giving Eli a hand.  I look forward to next 
month's
> meeting.
>
> With respect to next month's meeting, does Wednesday night work better 
than
> Monday?  I would be in favor of changing the meeting night if it would
> allow more people attend.
>
> Thank you to everyone who came, I really enjoyed meeting you.
>
> For next month's meeting I have an O'Reilly book to give out as a door
> prize.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org



From shawnhermans at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 16:31:14 2012
From: shawnhermans at gmail.com (Shawn Hermans)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:31:14 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
In-Reply-To: <4f47a252.41c60e0a.69b5.ffffdbe4SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
References: <CALHZEO-hXDL_JBPEtA7QoAFOz9W4JbkFb+MxxtCK4FER7M=TFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1330088981.95935.YahooMailNeo@web112811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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	<4f47a252.41c60e0a.69b5.ffffdbe4SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <FC4A2526-62CC-471F-A92B-BE342AB9F7BA@gmail.com>

I am a computer science grad student at UNO.  They had a special session on  Hadoop last semester.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu> wrote:

> Where did you take a course on Hadoop?
> 
> Burch T Kealey PhD.
> William C Hockett Professor of Accounting
> Director MAcc Program
> 
> 6001 Dodge Street
> MH-228 CC
> Omaha, NE 68182
> Physical Address 67th and Pine Street
> 
> Phone-402-554-3571
> FAX-402-554-3747
> 
> 
> 
> From:
> Shawn Hermans <shawnhermans at gmail.com>
> To:
> Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Date:
> 02/24/2012 08:27 AM
> Subject:
> Re: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
> Sent by:
> omaha-bounces+bkealey=mail.unomaha.edu at python.org
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know if you guys are looking for topics for follow-up meetings, 
> but
> I have a few I could talk about if people were interested.   Last semester
> I took a course on Hadoop and was able to convert my teacher to writing
> Hadoop jobs using Python (any converts away from Java is good).  Writing
> MapReduce using Python is pretty neat and really easy.  I also recently
> worked a really neat project where I integrated Python and Java programs
> using Redis.  If we hold the meetings on Wednesday, I might be able to 
> show
> up.
> 
> Shawn
> 
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'd also like to thank Eli, Jay and Chris for hosting the meeting.  I 
> look
>> forward to upcoming meetings at other sites as well as Lansky's.
>> 
>> Joe Gulizia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
>> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:03 PM
>> Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
>> 
>> I just wanted to thank Eli for pulling this meeting together.  Also, 
> thank
>> you to Chris and Jay for giving Eli a hand.  I look forward to next 
> month's
>> meeting.
>> 
>> With respect to next month's meeting, does Wednesday night work better 
> than
>> Monday?  I would be in favor of changing the meeting night if it would
>> allow more people attend.
>> 
>> Thank you to everyone who came, I really enjoyed meeting you.
>> 
>> For next month's meeting I have an O'Reilly book to give out as a door
>> prize.
>> 
>> --
>> Best,
>> 
>> Jeff Hinrichs
>> 402.218.1473
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Fri Feb 24 17:01:44 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:01:44 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
In-Reply-To: <CABT9k_CVcSsB0Xacdp4jR0j_yj2ZL+mcMO3UxZ7_rT584Thw1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-hXDL_JBPEtA7QoAFOz9W4JbkFb+MxxtCK4FER7M=TFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1330088981.95935.YahooMailNeo@web112811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CALHZEO_2rdKhOCJrbZX5bMaWVNnGhvvvGgzERqpHT47fBWBiBg@mail.gmail.com>

Shawn, we are always looking for presenters (you know how users groups
are<g>).  I for one, would be glad to hear a talk about Hadoop and
Map/Reduce.   I've never used Hadoop but have some experience using
python+map/reduce on couchdb.  They are most definitely not equivalent
products but I am interested in the map/reduce framework and how they
compare at abstract levels.

As for Wednesday meetings, I have not seen any negative feedback but have
seen positive -- so I am +0 on moving from Monday to Wednesday nights as
either night works equally well for me.  (I hope others on the list will
voice their opinion on the subject.)

Also, there was some interest shown in holding future meetings at different
locations.  One person offered to see if they could host an upcoming
meeting at their place of business. (I mention no names until that person
has permission.)  So if you or your business would like to host a users
group meeting we would love to know about it!   If you wish, just post to
the group.  We like new things!


Best,

Jeff

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Shawn Hermans <shawnhermans at gmail.com>wrote:

> I don't know if you guys are looking for topics for follow-up meetings, but
> I have a few I could talk about if people were interested.   Last semester
> I took a course on Hadoop and was able to convert my teacher to writing
> Hadoop jobs using Python (any converts away from Java is good).  Writing
> MapReduce using Python is pretty neat and really easy.  I also recently
> worked a really neat project where I integrated Python and Java programs
> using Redis.  If we hold the meetings on Wednesday, I might be able to show
> up.
>
> Shawn
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I'd also like to thank Eli, Jay and Chris for hosting the meeting.  I
> look
> > forward to upcoming meetings at other sites as well as Lansky's.
> >
> > Joe Gulizia
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:03 PM
> > Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
> >
> > I just wanted to thank Eli for pulling this meeting together.  Also,
> thank
> > you to Chris and Jay for giving Eli a hand.  I look forward to next
> month's
> > meeting.
> >
> > With respect to next month's meeting, does Wednesday night work better
> than
> > Monday?  I would be in favor of changing the meeting night if it would
> > allow more people attend.
> >
> > Thank you to everyone who came, I really enjoyed meeting you.
> >
> > For next month's meeting I have an O'Reilly book to give out as a door
> > prize.
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu  Fri Feb 24 17:17:02 2012
From: bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu (Burch Kealey)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:17:02 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_2rdKhOCJrbZX5bMaWVNnGhvvvGgzERqpHT47fBWBiBg@mail.gmail.com>
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	>


From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 17:28:21 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:28:21 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_2rdKhOCJrbZX5bMaWVNnGhvvvGgzERqpHT47fBWBiBg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-hXDL_JBPEtA7QoAFOz9W4JbkFb+MxxtCK4FER7M=TFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1330088981.95935.YahooMailNeo@web112811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFGSzzjoOQV2yvK2uwsxdChoFB1g3rHLjeJMmci+6OvcGH1M+A@mail.gmail.com>

Monday or Wednesday is fine with me.  I live in midtown so most locations
are ok with me.  My work has a small conference room - comfortably seats 8
at the table, room for a couple more toward the back, with a TV we can
connect a computer to (VGA).  Location 138th & Industrial Street.

Thanks to everyone who hosted and participated at the last meeting.

My topic request list: Hadoop; Testing; Django; Intro to Python series -
take 15-20 minutes each meeting;

Steve


On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
<jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Shawn, we are always looking for presenters (you know how users groups
> are<g>).  I for one, would be glad to hear a talk about Hadoop and
> Map/Reduce.   I've never used Hadoop but have some experience using
> python+map/reduce on couchdb.  They are most definitely not equivalent
> products but I am interested in the map/reduce framework and how they
> compare at abstract levels.
>
> As for Wednesday meetings, I have not seen any negative feedback but have
> seen positive -- so I am +0 on moving from Monday to Wednesday nights as
> either night works equally well for me.  (I hope others on the list will
> voice their opinion on the subject.)
>
> Also, there was some interest shown in holding future meetings at different
> locations.  One person offered to see if they could host an upcoming
> meeting at their place of business. (I mention no names until that person
> has permission.)  So if you or your business would like to host a users
> group meeting we would love to know about it!   If you wish, just post to
> the group.  We like new things!
>
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Shawn Hermans <shawnhermans at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I don't know if you guys are looking for topics for follow-up meetings,
> but
> > I have a few I could talk about if people were interested.   Last
> semester
> > I took a course on Hadoop and was able to convert my teacher to writing
> > Hadoop jobs using Python (any converts away from Java is good).  Writing
> > MapReduce using Python is pretty neat and really easy.  I also recently
> > worked a really neat project where I integrated Python and Java programs
> > using Redis.  If we hold the meetings on Wednesday, I might be able to
> show
> > up.
> >
> > Shawn
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'd also like to thank Eli, Jay and Chris for hosting the meeting.  I
> > look
> > > forward to upcoming meetings at other sites as well as Lansky's.
> > >
> > > Joe Gulizia
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:03 PM
> > > Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
> > >
> > > I just wanted to thank Eli for pulling this meeting together.  Also,
> > thank
> > > you to Chris and Jay for giving Eli a hand.  I look forward to next
> > month's
> > > meeting.
> > >
> > > With respect to next month's meeting, does Wednesday night work better
> > than
> > > Monday?  I would be in favor of changing the meeting night if it would
> > > allow more people attend.
> > >
> > > Thank you to everyone who came, I really enjoyed meeting you.
> > >
> > > For next month's meeting I have an O'Reilly book to give out as a door
> > > prize.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 22:37:47 2012
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:37:47 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
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I have a few things that I could present as well, let me know if people are
interested (these would be actually prepared, instead of my painful attempt
last meeting for an adhoc presentation):

   - web2py intro and demo
   - Cython intro + demo
   - Decorated Profiler (pure python profiler based on decorators, I wrote
   it some time ago, mainly focused on wsgi apps)
   https://bitbucket.org/dragonfyre13/decorated-profiler<https://bitbucket.org/dragonfyre13/decorated-profiler/src>
   - Natural language processing in python (intro + demo, as I'm still
   learning too)
   - A bit more testing focused (not unit, but integrates with CI system)
      - GUI level test automation with Sikuli (openCV based)
      - Test automation with Robot Framework, library development, etc
      - Web performance testing with multi-mechanize (Can present a number
      of more powerful tools if people are interested)

Can probably think of more later, but that's off the top of my head.

P.S. Just got word today that the request to host a user's group here got
denied for now. Will try again later, but not for next month.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Monday or Wednesday is fine with me.  I live in midtown so most locations
> are ok with me.  My work has a small conference room - comfortably seats 8
> at the table, room for a couple more toward the back, with a TV we can
> connect a computer to (VGA).  Location 138th & Industrial Street.
>
> Thanks to everyone who hosted and participated at the last meeting.
>
> My topic request list: Hadoop; Testing; Django; Intro to Python series -
> take 15-20 minutes each meeting;
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>
> > Shawn, we are always looking for presenters (you know how users groups
> > are<g>).  I for one, would be glad to hear a talk about Hadoop and
> > Map/Reduce.   I've never used Hadoop but have some experience using
> > python+map/reduce on couchdb.  They are most definitely not equivalent
> > products but I am interested in the map/reduce framework and how they
> > compare at abstract levels.
> >
> > As for Wednesday meetings, I have not seen any negative feedback but have
> > seen positive -- so I am +0 on moving from Monday to Wednesday nights as
> > either night works equally well for me.  (I hope others on the list will
> > voice their opinion on the subject.)
> >
> > Also, there was some interest shown in holding future meetings at
> different
> > locations.  One person offered to see if they could host an upcoming
> > meeting at their place of business. (I mention no names until that person
> > has permission.)  So if you or your business would like to host a users
> > group meeting we would love to know about it!   If you wish, just post to
> > the group.  We like new things!
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Shawn Hermans <shawnhermans at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know if you guys are looking for topics for follow-up meetings,
> > but
> > > I have a few I could talk about if people were interested.   Last
> > semester
> > > I took a course on Hadoop and was able to convert my teacher to writing
> > > Hadoop jobs using Python (any converts away from Java is good).
>  Writing
> > > MapReduce using Python is pretty neat and really easy.  I also recently
> > > worked a really neat project where I integrated Python and Java
> programs
> > > using Redis.  If we hold the meetings on Wednesday, I might be able to
> > show
> > > up.
> > >
> > > Shawn
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'd also like to thank Eli, Jay and Chris for hosting the meeting.  I
> > > look
> > > > forward to upcoming meetings at other sites as well as Lansky's.
> > > >
> > > > Joe Gulizia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> > > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:03 PM
> > > > Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting last night!
> > > >
> > > > I just wanted to thank Eli for pulling this meeting together.  Also,
> > > thank
> > > > you to Chris and Jay for giving Eli a hand.  I look forward to next
> > > month's
> > > > meeting.
> > > >
> > > > With respect to next month's meeting, does Wednesday night work
> better
> > > than
> > > > Monday?  I would be in favor of changing the meeting night if it
> would
> > > > allow more people attend.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you to everyone who came, I really enjoyed meeting you.
> > > >
> > > > For next month's meeting I have an O'Reilly book to give out as a
> door
> > > > prize.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > > 402.218.1473
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 23:48:38 2012
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:48:38 -0600
Subject: [omaha] WSGI Tutorial - Very nice presentation (in html/js)
Message-ID: <CA+aHcdBQYoksiKk45b+6jxRTt5MHnaCny7jH8mwftH6wDBR9WA@mail.gmail.com>

A really nice presentation done entirely in HTML/JS (and quite simple if
you look at the source). Also a really good resource if you're dealing with
wsgi at all.

Guessing it's been posted to the list or discussed previously, it's an
oldie but a goodie. http://archimedeanco.com/wsgi-tutorial/

From shawnhermans at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 07:01:49 2012
From: shawnhermans at gmail.com (Shawn Hermans)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:01:49 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Django-nonrel?
Message-ID: <CABT9k_AA6XQdMO5QSZ1KM=zqwfLEfgVDJwp0vT-g5HtZe7MWyA@mail.gmail.com>

All,
Since we were talking about subjects for upcoming meetings, has anyone had
any experience using Django-nonrel? I currently started using Django-nonrel
with MongoDB as a test run.  So far everything seems to be working well.  I
had to make some modifications to my existing code to work with
Django-nonrel, but overall it was rather painless.  However, I still have a
number of unresolved questions.

1. Has anyone had any experience using Django-nonrel with App Engine
instead of Mongo? Are there any major issues moving from one to another?
2. Has anyone tried Django-nonrel and run into any performance/scaling
issues?
3. Lastly, has anyone had any luck with geospatial applications on either
Mongo or App Engine? GeoDjango won't work as it requires C libraries and a
geospatial database such as PostGIS.  Some initial searching shows that
both Mongo and App Engine support geospatial, but not via Django-nonrel.
 Meaning any geospatial code I wrote wouldn't be portable.  If there isn't
a good solution, then maybe that is an excuse to write one.

Let me know if anyone has any guidance.

Thanks,
Shawn

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 29 00:04:14 2012
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:04:14 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Papaya Android & iPhone Game Engine
Message-ID: <CA+aHcdAO93K=FH4K0ii3p5LR5eGMFPZBLNZ-07hD_0N+13ZF7Q@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone used this/seen it before? Just came across it, looks kind of
interesting.

http://papayamobile.com/developer/engine

It's basically a really high level abstraction around openGL 2d from what I
can tell. I might play around with it, but it certainly looks interesting
and it's free. So that's obviously a plus. Thoughts?

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Feb 29 07:08:08 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:08:08 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Papaya Android & iPhone Game Engine
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A quick google on papayamobile and python would leave one to believe that
it is compatible with Python and there is a game developed on it with
python but that the documentation for using python w/ papayamobile is a bit
sparse.

I had not heard of it before your mail.  If you decide to kick the tires, I
am sure that we would all be interested in your impressions and experience
with it.

Best,

Jeff

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Tim Alexander <dragonfyre13 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Anyone used this/seen it before? Just came across it, looks kind of
> interesting.
>
> http://papayamobile.com/developer/engine
>
> It's basically a really high level abstraction around openGL 2d from what I
> can tell. I might play around with it, but it certainly looks interesting
> and it's free. So that's obviously a plus. Thoughts?
> _______________________________________________
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> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
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>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473