From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 21:07:24 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:07:24 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Next meeting
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzi7qjQ00HnPynK2bZeU9eD4Nv7PMMtB-rJqM9QJoi7hJQ@mail.gmail.com>

We did a webcast meeting a while back to help people participate who
couldn't attend the meeting - and I was wondering if we should try the
google+ hangout with extras at the next meeting?  If so, does anyone have a
decent webcam?

I have the ok to meet at my office if it is convenient - 13827 Industrial
Road.


Steve

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Mar  7 20:13:29 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:13:29 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Matt Harrison: Not at PyCon? Learn Python Anyway
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8+ZJ6qQV8svL1eaBesBsZPJ+ZfhF=L91ayvhXiqVbZdQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://hairysun.com/blog/2012/03/07/not-at-pycon-learn-python-anyway/

Matt, is giving away his ebook for beginning Pythonistas.  I'm d/lding it
now.
Today only.

Best,
Jeff Hinrichs

From jeffh at delasco.com  Wed Mar  7 20:28:24 2012
From: jeffh at delasco.com (Jeff Hinrichs)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:28:24 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Next meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzi7qjQ00HnPynK2bZeU9eD4Nv7PMMtB-rJqM9QJoi7hJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzi7qjQ00HnPynK2bZeU9eD4Nv7PMMtB-rJqM9QJoi7hJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHoq1-obVD=A=OzXPwPeDu2e_k3-2=sSFWajJ2PPHFOEHhcb2g@mail.gmail.com>

I am +1 if you are offering your office for the next meeting.   Do you have
a projector/tv etc? If not let me know and I can bring mine.  As for the
hang out idea, I am cool with that, we will need someone from the group
step up to be the a/v person though.

Best,

-Jeff



On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> We did a webcast meeting a while back to help people participate who
> couldn't attend the meeting - and I was wondering if we should try the
> google+ hangout with extras at the next meeting?  If so, does anyone have a
> decent webcam?
>
> I have the ok to meet at my office if it is convenient - 13827 Industrial
> Road.
>
>
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Wed Mar  7 21:43:33 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 14:43:33 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Django-nonrel?
In-Reply-To: <CABT9k_AA6XQdMO5QSZ1KM=zqwfLEfgVDJwp0vT-g5HtZe7MWyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABT9k_AA6XQdMO5QSZ1KM=zqwfLEfgVDJwp0vT-g5HtZe7MWyA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <76CA0699-18D0-40D8-9A30-DA3F506445D7@iinteractive.com>

FWIW,

For a recent project we used Google Maps Premier + Google Geocoder to geocode a gajillion addresses and then the standard Google Maps APIs for visualizing those lat/longs. Google Fusion Tables adds lots of additional fanciness if you want it. (If you use those tools all of the heavy lifting is programming language agnostic.)

I'd be interested in hearing the details of what features of the geospatial tools you mentioned you exercised for your project.

Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Project Lead / Programmer
http://www.iinteractive.com
Email: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com
AOL IM: deafferret
Mobile: 1.402.598.7782
Fax: 1.402.691.9496



On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:01 AM, Shawn Hermans wrote:
> All,
> Since we were talking about subjects for upcoming meetings, has anyone had
> any experience using Django-nonrel? I currently started using Django-nonrel
> with MongoDB as a test run.  So far everything seems to be working well.  I
> had to make some modifications to my existing code to work with
> Django-nonrel, but overall it was rather painless.  However, I still have a
> number of unresolved questions.
> 
> 1. Has anyone had any experience using Django-nonrel with App Engine
> instead of Mongo? Are there any major issues moving from one to another?
> 2. Has anyone tried Django-nonrel and run into any performance/scaling
> issues?
> 3. Lastly, has anyone had any luck with geospatial applications on either
> Mongo or App Engine? GeoDjango won't work as it requires C libraries and a
> geospatial database such as PostGIS.  Some initial searching shows that
> both Mongo and App Engine support geospatial, but not via Django-nonrel.
> Meaning any geospatial code I wrote wouldn't be portable.  If there isn't
> a good solution, then maybe that is an excuse to write one.
> 
> Let me know if anyone has any guidance.






From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 02:13:27 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 19:13:27 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Matt Harrison: Not at PyCon? Learn Python Anyway
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8+ZJ6qQV8svL1eaBesBsZPJ+ZfhF=L91ayvhXiqVbZdQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+ZJ6qQV8svL1eaBesBsZPJ+ZfhF=L91ayvhXiqVbZdQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzioVNHMd2+FuyC_2tVkSPzD2rX5nKgcFQJP68_gpikJwA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks.



On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> http://hairysun.com/blog/2012/03/07/not-at-pycon-learn-python-anyway/
>
> Matt, is giving away his ebook for beginning Pythonistas.  I'm d/lding it
> now.
> Today only.
>
> Best,
> Jeff Hinrichs
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Thu Mar  8 04:50:00 2012
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 19:50:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [omaha] Matt Harrison: Not at PyCon? Learn Python Anyway
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzioVNHMd2+FuyC_2tVkSPzD2rX5nKgcFQJP68_gpikJwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+ZJ6qQV8svL1eaBesBsZPJ+ZfhF=L91ayvhXiqVbZdQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFGSzzioVNHMd2+FuyC_2tVkSPzD2rX5nKgcFQJP68_gpikJwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1331178600.40969.YahooMailNeo@web112809.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Ditto.



________________________________
 From: Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [omaha] Matt Harrison: Not at PyCon? Learn Python Anyway
 
Thanks.



On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> http://hairysun.com/blog/2012/03/07/not-at-pycon-learn-python-anyway/
>
> Matt, is giving away his ebook for beginning Pythonistas.? I'm d/lding it
> now.
> Today only.
>
> Best,
> Jeff Hinrichs
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 22:44:19 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 15:44:19 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Next meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAHoq1-obVD=A=OzXPwPeDu2e_k3-2=sSFWajJ2PPHFOEHhcb2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzi7qjQ00HnPynK2bZeU9eD4Nv7PMMtB-rJqM9QJoi7hJQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHoq1-obVD=A=OzXPwPeDu2e_k3-2=sSFWajJ2PPHFOEHhcb2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzg2AX3vgAXpVipn46AWEAY=jKnKmXfPL7eyGiW+Z21NwA@mail.gmail.com>

The room has a TV with a VGA connection, no annoying "swoosh" sounds when
you get up for pizza, and you don't have to sign a release form to enter.
:-)

I can run the hangout unless someone else wants to.

There have been a couple of presentation requests - anything definite, or
shall we choose at the meeting?

Steve


On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com> wrote:

> I am +1 if you are offering your office for the next meeting.   Do you have
> a projector/tv etc? If not let me know and I can bring mine.  As for the
> hang out idea, I am cool with that, we will need someone from the group
> step up to be the a/v person though.
>
> Best,
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > We did a webcast meeting a while back to help people participate who
> > couldn't attend the meeting - and I was wondering if we should try the
> > google+ hangout with extras at the next meeting?  If so, does anyone
> have a
> > decent webcam?
> >
> > I have the ok to meet at my office if it is convenient - 13827 Industrial
> > Road.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From choman at gmail.com  Thu Mar  8 23:32:33 2012
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:32:33 -0600
Subject: [omaha] Next meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzg2AX3vgAXpVipn46AWEAY=jKnKmXfPL7eyGiW+Z21NwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzi7qjQ00HnPynK2bZeU9eD4Nv7PMMtB-rJqM9QJoi7hJQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHoq1-obVD=A=OzXPwPeDu2e_k3-2=sSFWajJ2PPHFOEHhcb2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFGSzzg2AX3vgAXpVipn46AWEAY=jKnKmXfPL7eyGiW+Z21NwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xrk5gu8+MUe9kMnH2nXObrtC0K0vSk_PzHNDzCvB4rSnDLhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Now I just need to remember since I will be out of town.


Join The RVLution <http://www.monavie.com/rvlution>- Together We Win!
--
Chad - I AM MONAVIE
Creating A More Meaningful Life


On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> The room has a TV with a VGA connection, no annoying "swoosh" sounds when
> you get up for pizza, and you don't have to sign a release form to enter.
> :-)
>
> I can run the hangout unless someone else wants to.
>
> There have been a couple of presentation requests - anything definite, or
> shall we choose at the meeting?
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com> wrote:
>
> > I am +1 if you are offering your office for the next meeting.   Do you
> have
> > a projector/tv etc? If not let me know and I can bring mine.  As for the
> > hang out idea, I am cool with that, we will need someone from the group
> > step up to be the a/v person though.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > We did a webcast meeting a while back to help people participate who
> > > couldn't attend the meeting - and I was wondering if we should try the
> > > google+ hangout with extras at the next meeting?  If so, does anyone
> > have a
> > > decent webcam?
> > >
> > > I have the ok to meet at my office if it is convenient - 13827
> Industrial
> > > Road.
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From matt.wynn at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 20:22:18 2012
From: matt.wynn at gmail.com (Matt Wynn)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:22:18 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Government data hackathon in April
Message-ID: <CAFXqcUouv25GwLdbH5_w8oDDwNPTsq0G2b-PM2f6neWshKS3dg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey folks,

Wanted to tell you all about an upcoming event we at the World-Herald are
putting on. It's not Python per se, but any web developers might find it
intriguing.

Hack Omaha (www.hackomaha.com) will be held April 13-15, and it's a
competition to build something -- a website, an app, whatever -- out of
government data. I envision it being sort of like StartUp Weekend. Only
instead of a business at the end, you wind up with a news application (
http://blog.apps.chicagotribune.com/ , not  http://www.usatoday.com/ipad/).

Hope this doesn't come off as an ad. While it does cost $10 to reserve a
spot, that's to ensure only the most interested get their foot in the door.
We'll be feeding and caffeinating all weekend, and three winning teams will
walk away with anywhere from $250 to $1000.

Hope to see some of ya'll there. If you have any questions, or other ways I
should try to promote, let me know. Thanks!

-Matt

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Mar 14 05:47:56 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:47:56 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_XtutJsQrvVZ4j_3m408LaOkyRd9fspqPkkPnpMa3XMQ@mail.gmail.com>

There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each meeting in
addition to the current type of topics.  From prior presentations on
beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a laundry list
of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.  The presentations
are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project that
would cover the spectrum.  Something completely different...

As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project -- say
Gina Trapani's Todo.txt  http://todotxt.com/  -- a nifty idea for a
simplistic but workable todo list app.  But built on a hodge podge of bash,
awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the universe.
Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.  It's GPL we can do that.
  It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user interaction
-- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.  We can
show off file handling, iterators, etc.    Pretty good topics for beginning
pythonistas.

Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.   This would
make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests, integration
tests and acceptance testing.

Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on topic X and
use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.


   - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket and
   then people could demo using mercurial and git.
   - It would be a candidate for using Tox http://pypi.python.org/pypi/tox to
   assist in making it 2/3 compatible
   - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
   http://readthedocs.org/
      - checking your documentation examples with doctests
   - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on pypi
   - Using nosetest   w/wo coverage.py
   - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.

Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the example -- a
lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make sense, we
would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could get
familiar with quickly.

I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on this, but I
think we could make this or something like this a real win for the group.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 02:44:14 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:44:14 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_XtutJsQrvVZ4j_3m408LaOkyRd9fspqPkkPnpMa3XMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO_XtutJsQrvVZ4j_3m408LaOkyRd9fspqPkkPnpMa3XMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzgv4erij691o+O56-YXcd8dKkNv8w9yPnUzebndksuOTQ@mail.gmail.com>

I love the idea.  Sounds like a great way to learn Python and much more.  I
must say a ToDo app isn't very exciting - but I can't think of anything
better at the moment...

Next meeting is this Monday.

Steve


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
<jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each meeting in
> addition to the current type of topics.  From prior presentations on
> beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a laundry list
> of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.  The presentations
> are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project that
> would cover the spectrum.  Something completely different...
>
> As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project -- say
> Gina Trapani's Todo.txt  http://todotxt.com/  -- a nifty idea for a
> simplistic but workable todo list app.  But built on a hodge podge of bash,
> awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the universe.
> Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.  It's GPL we can do that.
>  It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user interaction
> -- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.  We can
> show off file handling, iterators, etc.    Pretty good topics for beginning
> pythonistas.
>
> Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.   This would
> make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests, integration
> tests and acceptance testing.
>
> Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on topic X and
> use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.
>
>
>   - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket and
>   then people could demo using mercurial and git.
>   - It would be a candidate for using Tox http://pypi.python.org/pypi/toxto
>   assist in making it 2/3 compatible
>   - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
>   http://readthedocs.org/
>      - checking your documentation examples with doctests
>   - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on pypi
>   - Using nosetest   w/wo coverage.py
>   - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.
>
> Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the example -- a
> lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make sense, we
> would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could get
> familiar with quickly.
>
> I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on this, but I
> think we could make this or something like this a real win for the group.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From kyle.s.korbel at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 02:56:35 2012
From: kyle.s.korbel at gmail.com (Kyle Korbel)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:56:35 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzgv4erij691o+O56-YXcd8dKkNv8w9yPnUzebndksuOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO_XtutJsQrvVZ4j_3m408LaOkyRd9fspqPkkPnpMa3XMQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFGSzzgv4erij691o+O56-YXcd8dKkNv8w9yPnUzebndksuOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <-444932859736396088@unknownmsgid>

I would agree.  That would a really fun project.  I'd be interested.

Sent from my iPhone.

On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com> wrote:

> I love the idea.  Sounds like a great way to learn Python and much more.  I
> must say a ToDo app isn't very exciting - but I can't think of anything
> better at the moment...
>
> Next meeting is this Monday.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>
>> There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each meeting in
>> addition to the current type of topics.  From prior presentations on
>> beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a laundry list
>> of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.  The presentations
>> are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project that
>> would cover the spectrum.  Something completely different...
>>
>> As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project -- say
>> Gina Trapani's Todo.txt  http://todotxt.com/  -- a nifty idea for a
>> simplistic but workable todo list app.  But built on a hodge podge of bash,
>> awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the universe.
>> Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.  It's GPL we can do that.
>> It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user interaction
>> -- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.  We can
>> show off file handling, iterators, etc.    Pretty good topics for beginning
>> pythonistas.
>>
>> Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.   This would
>> make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests, integration
>> tests and acceptance testing.
>>
>> Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on topic X and
>> use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.
>>
>>
>>  - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket and
>>  then people could demo using mercurial and git.
>>  - It would be a candidate for using Tox http://pypi.python.org/pypi/toxto
>>  assist in making it 2/3 compatible
>>  - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
>>  http://readthedocs.org/
>>     - checking your documentation examples with doctests
>>  - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on pypi
>>  - Using nosetest   w/wo coverage.py
>>  - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.
>>
>> Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the example -- a
>> lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make sense, we
>> would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could get
>> familiar with quickly.
>>
>> I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on this, but I
>> think we could make this or something like this a real win for the group.
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>>
>> Jeff Hinrichs
>> 402.218.1473
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 15 04:26:10 2012
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:26:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
In-Reply-To: <-444932859736396088@unknownmsgid>
References: <CALHZEO_XtutJsQrvVZ4j_3m408LaOkyRd9fspqPkkPnpMa3XMQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Monday?? I thought we were going to do Wednesdays?? Better attendance or am I wrong?
What location also?

Joe



________________________________
 From: Kyle Korbel <kyle.s.korbel at gmail.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
 
I would agree.? That would a really fun project.? I'd be interested.

Sent from my iPhone.

On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com> wrote:

> I love the idea.? Sounds like a great way to learn Python and much more.? I
> must say a ToDo app isn't very exciting - but I can't think of anything
> better at the moment...
>
> Next meeting is this Monday.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>
>> There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each meeting in
>> addition to the current type of topics.? From prior presentations on
>> beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a laundry list
>> of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.? The presentations
>> are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project that
>> would cover the spectrum.? Something completely different...
>>
>> As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project -- say
>> Gina Trapani's Todo.txt? http://todotxt.com/? -- a nifty idea for a
>> simplistic but workable todo list app.? But built on a hodge podge of bash,
>> awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the universe.
>> Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.? It's GPL we can do that.
>> It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user interaction
>> -- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.? We can
>> show off file handling, iterators, etc.? ? Pretty good topics for beginning
>> pythonistas.
>>
>> Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.?  This would
>> make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests, integration
>> tests and acceptance testing.
>>
>> Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on topic X and
>> use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.
>>
>>
>>? - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket and
>>? then people could demo using mercurial and git.
>>? - It would be a candidate for using Tox http://pypi.python.org/pypi/toxto
>>? assist in making it 2/3 compatible
>>? - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
>>? http://readthedocs.org/
>>? ?  - checking your documentation examples with doctests
>>? - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on pypi
>>? - Using nosetest?  w/wo coverage.py
>>? - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.
>>
>> Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the example -- a
>> lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make sense, we
>> would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could get
>> familiar with quickly.
>>
>> I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on this, but I
>> think we could make this or something like this a real win for the group.
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>>
>> Jeff Hinrichs
>> 402.218.1473
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Mar 15 04:35:52 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:35:52 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
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Steve is it ok with you and your company if we meet Wed? Instead of Monday.

Best,
Jeff Hinrichs
On Mar 14, 2012 10:26 PM, "Joe Gulizia" <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Monday?  I thought we were going to do Wednesdays?  Better attendance or
> am I wrong?
> What location also?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Kyle Korbel <kyle.s.korbel at gmail.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
>
> I would agree.  That would a really fun project.  I'd be interested.
>
> Sent from my iPhone.
>
> On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I love the idea.  Sounds like a great way to learn Python and much
> more.  I
> > must say a ToDo app isn't very exciting - but I can't think of anything
> > better at the moment...
> >
> > Next meeting is this Monday.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >
> >> There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each meeting
> in
> >> addition to the current type of topics.  From prior presentations on
> >> beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a laundry
> list
> >> of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.  The
> presentations
> >> are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project that
> >> would cover the spectrum.  Something completely different...
> >>
> >> As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project --
> say
> >> Gina Trapani's Todo.txt  http://todotxt.com/  -- a nifty idea for a
> >> simplistic but workable todo list app.  But built on a hodge podge of
> bash,
> >> awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the
> universe.
> >> Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.  It's GPL we can do
> that.
> >> It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user
> interaction
> >> -- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.  We can
> >> show off file handling, iterators, etc.    Pretty good topics for
> beginning
> >> pythonistas.
> >>
> >> Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.   This would
> >> make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests,
> integration
> >> tests and acceptance testing.
> >>
> >> Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on topic X
> and
> >> use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.
> >>
> >>
> >>  - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket and
> >>  then people could demo using mercurial and git.
> >>  - It would be a candidate for using Tox
> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/toxto
> >>  assist in making it 2/3 compatible
> >>  - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
> >>  http://readthedocs.org/
> >>     - checking your documentation examples with doctests
> >>  - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on pypi
> >>  - Using nosetest   w/wo coverage.py
> >>  - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.
> >>
> >> Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the example
> -- a
> >> lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make sense, we
> >> would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could get
> >> familiar with quickly.
> >>
> >> I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on this,
> but I
> >> think we could make this or something like this a real win for the
> group.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> 402.218.1473
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Mar 15 04:49:38 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:49:38 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
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I'm open to any app type that meets the general requirements.  And no group
project will last forever as a demo since it will eventually "be done" or
so advanced in coding techniques that it will no longer serve as an
introductory app for new members.

As for it being a Todo app, Paul Graham thinks it could be a great idea.
http://paulgraham.com/ambitious.html. #2. :-!  Prolly not but who knows?
I'm hoping once we get it under way others will volunteer to use it as a
base for their talk on subject X.

Best,
Jeff Hinrichs
On Mar 14, 2012 8:44 PM, "Steve Young" <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com> wrote:

> I love the idea.  Sounds like a great way to learn Python and much more.  I
> must say a ToDo app isn't very exciting - but I can't think of anything
> better at the moment...
>
> Next meeting is this Monday.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>
> > There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each meeting in
> > addition to the current type of topics.  From prior presentations on
> > beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a laundry list
> > of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.  The
> presentations
> > are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project that
> > would cover the spectrum.  Something completely different...
> >
> > As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project -- say
> > Gina Trapani's Todo.txt  http://todotxt.com/  -- a nifty idea for a
> > simplistic but workable todo list app.  But built on a hodge podge of
> bash,
> > awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the universe.
> > Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.  It's GPL we can do
> that.
> >  It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user
> interaction
> > -- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.  We can
> > show off file handling, iterators, etc.    Pretty good topics for
> beginning
> > pythonistas.
> >
> > Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.   This would
> > make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests,
> integration
> > tests and acceptance testing.
> >
> > Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on topic X
> and
> > use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.
> >
> >
> >   - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket and
> >   then people could demo using mercurial and git.
> >   - It would be a candidate for using Tox
> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/toxto
> >   assist in making it 2/3 compatible
> >   - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
> >   http://readthedocs.org/
> >      - checking your documentation examples with doctests
> >   - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on pypi
> >   - Using nosetest   w/wo coverage.py
> >   - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.
> >
> > Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the example --
> a
> > lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make sense, we
> > would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could get
> > familiar with quickly.
> >
> > I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on this, but
> I
> > think we could make this or something like this a real win for the group.
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 16:18:01 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:18:01 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Python March Meeting Info
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzhNT2ExXERF7RJ8+-rs=WV2gOzBjes3fOb+38SW3C1qqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Wednesday, March 21st at 13829 Industrial
Road<http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Architectural+Lighting+Resources,+Industrial+Road,+Omaha,+NE&hl=en&sll=41.252363,-95.997988&sspn=0.962253,2.113495&oq=architectural+light&hq=Architectural+Lighting+Resources,&hnear=Industrial+Rd,+Omaha,+Nebraska&t=m&z=16>-
Architectural Lighting Resources.  Next door to Briggs Kitchen and
Bath.

We normally meet at 7pm but reply with your preference and we will adjust
if necessary.

I will provide snacks and drinks.


Steve

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 16:37:40 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:37:40 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
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Wed is fine. See other email for details.

Jeff, we should update the 'where and when' page on the website to reflect
the changes.  I can do it if you give me permission.

Steve


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
<jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> I'm open to any app type that meets the general requirements.  And no group
> project will last forever as a demo since it will eventually "be done" or
> so advanced in coding techniques that it will no longer serve as an
> introductory app for new members.
>
> As for it being a Todo app, Paul Graham thinks it could be a great idea.
> http://paulgraham.com/ambitious.html. #2. :-!  Prolly not but who knows?
> I'm hoping once we get it under way others will volunteer to use it as a
> base for their talk on subject X.
>
> Best,
> Jeff Hinrichs
> On Mar 14, 2012 8:44 PM, "Steve Young" <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I love the idea.  Sounds like a great way to learn Python and much more.
>  I
> > must say a ToDo app isn't very exciting - but I can't think of anything
> > better at the moment...
> >
> > Next meeting is this Monday.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >
> > > There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each meeting
> in
> > > addition to the current type of topics.  From prior presentations on
> > > beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a laundry
> list
> > > of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.  The
> > presentations
> > > are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project
> that
> > > would cover the spectrum.  Something completely different...
> > >
> > > As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project --
> say
> > > Gina Trapani's Todo.txt  http://todotxt.com/  -- a nifty idea for a
> > > simplistic but workable todo list app.  But built on a hodge podge of
> > bash,
> > > awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the
> universe.
> > > Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.  It's GPL we can do
> > that.
> > >  It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user
> > interaction
> > > -- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.  We can
> > > show off file handling, iterators, etc.    Pretty good topics for
> > beginning
> > > pythonistas.
> > >
> > > Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.   This
> would
> > > make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests,
> > integration
> > > tests and acceptance testing.
> > >
> > > Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on topic X
> > and
> > > use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.
> > >
> > >
> > >   - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket and
> > >   then people could demo using mercurial and git.
> > >   - It would be a candidate for using Tox
> > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/toxto
> > >   assist in making it 2/3 compatible
> > >   - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
> > >   http://readthedocs.org/
> > >      - checking your documentation examples with doctests
> > >   - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on
> pypi
> > >   - Using nosetest   w/wo coverage.py
> > >   - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.
> > >
> > > Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the example
> --
> > a
> > > lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make sense,
> we
> > > would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could get
> > > familiar with quickly.
> > >
> > > I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on this,
> but
> > I
> > > think we could make this or something like this a real win for the
> group.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at delasco.com  Thu Mar 15 16:38:43 2012
From: jeffh at delasco.com (Jeff Hinrichs)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:38:43 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzidgnDy8=4S5yLm9H4h26mwdo1GG14qGcm0CK7wtywVug@mail.gmail.com>
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Sounds fine Steve, you should have permission to make the changes, let me
know if that is not the case.

Best,

-Jeff



On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Wed is fine. See other email for details.
>
> Jeff, we should update the 'where and when' page on the website to reflect
> the changes.  I can do it if you give me permission.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>
> > I'm open to any app type that meets the general requirements.  And no
> group
> > project will last forever as a demo since it will eventually "be done" or
> > so advanced in coding techniques that it will no longer serve as an
> > introductory app for new members.
> >
> > As for it being a Todo app, Paul Graham thinks it could be a great idea.
> > http://paulgraham.com/ambitious.html. #2. :-!  Prolly not but who knows?
> > I'm hoping once we get it under way others will volunteer to use it as a
> > base for their talk on subject X.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > On Mar 14, 2012 8:44 PM, "Steve Young" <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I love the idea.  Sounds like a great way to learn Python and much
> more.
> >  I
> > > must say a ToDo app isn't very exciting - but I can't think of anything
> > > better at the moment...
> > >
> > > Next meeting is this Monday.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each
> meeting
> > in
> > > > addition to the current type of topics.  From prior presentations on
> > > > beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a laundry
> > list
> > > > of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.  The
> > > presentations
> > > > are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project
> > that
> > > > would cover the spectrum.  Something completely different...
> > > >
> > > > As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project --
> > say
> > > > Gina Trapani's Todo.txt  http://todotxt.com/  -- a nifty idea for a
> > > > simplistic but workable todo list app.  But built on a hodge podge of
> > > bash,
> > > > awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the
> > universe.
> > > > Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.  It's GPL we can do
> > > that.
> > > >  It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user
> > > interaction
> > > > -- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.  We
> can
> > > > show off file handling, iterators, etc.    Pretty good topics for
> > > beginning
> > > > pythonistas.
> > > >
> > > > Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.   This
> > would
> > > > make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests,
> > > integration
> > > > tests and acceptance testing.
> > > >
> > > > Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on
> topic X
> > > and
> > > > use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket
> and
> > > >   then people could demo using mercurial and git.
> > > >   - It would be a candidate for using Tox
> > > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/toxto
> > > >   assist in making it 2/3 compatible
> > > >   - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
> > > >   http://readthedocs.org/
> > > >      - checking your documentation examples with doctests
> > > >   - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on
> > pypi
> > > >   - Using nosetest   w/wo coverage.py
> > > >   - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the example
> > --
> > > a
> > > > lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make sense,
> > we
> > > > would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could
> get
> > > > familiar with quickly.
> > > >
> > > > I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on this,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > think we could make this or something like this a real win for the
> > group.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > > 402.218.1473
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 16:59:40 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:59:40 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations
In-Reply-To: <CAHoq1-reBF4Ygpg1NOiXTpNXvFANMxoYegGr12R9iSqbJevd1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO_XtutJsQrvVZ4j_3m408LaOkyRd9fspqPkkPnpMa3XMQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I am able to make posts, but not edit pages.

Steve


On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com> wrote:

> Sounds fine Steve, you should have permission to make the changes, let me
> know if that is not the case.
>
> Best,
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Wed is fine. See other email for details.
> >
> > Jeff, we should update the 'where and when' page on the website to
> reflect
> > the changes.  I can do it if you give me permission.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >
> > > I'm open to any app type that meets the general requirements.  And no
> > group
> > > project will last forever as a demo since it will eventually "be done"
> or
> > > so advanced in coding techniques that it will no longer serve as an
> > > introductory app for new members.
> > >
> > > As for it being a Todo app, Paul Graham thinks it could be a great
> idea.
> > > http://paulgraham.com/ambitious.html. #2. :-!  Prolly not but who
> knows?
> > > I'm hoping once we get it under way others will volunteer to use it as
> a
> > > base for their talk on subject X.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > On Mar 14, 2012 8:44 PM, "Steve Young" <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I love the idea.  Sounds like a great way to learn Python and much
> > more.
> > >  I
> > > > must say a ToDo app isn't very exciting - but I can't think of
> anything
> > > > better at the moment...
> > > >
> > > > Next meeting is this Monday.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > > > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each
> > meeting
> > > in
> > > > > addition to the current type of topics.  From prior presentations
> on
> > > > > beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a
> laundry
> > > list
> > > > > of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.  The
> > > > presentations
> > > > > are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project
> > > that
> > > > > would cover the spectrum.  Something completely different...
> > > > >
> > > > > As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project
> --
> > > say
> > > > > Gina Trapani's Todo.txt  http://todotxt.com/  -- a nifty idea for
> a
> > > > > simplistic but workable todo list app.  But built on a hodge podge
> of
> > > > bash,
> > > > > awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the
> > > universe.
> > > > > Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.  It's GPL we can
> do
> > > > that.
> > > > >  It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user
> > > > interaction
> > > > > -- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.  We
> > can
> > > > > show off file handling, iterators, etc.    Pretty good topics for
> > > > beginning
> > > > > pythonistas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.   This
> > > would
> > > > > make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests,
> > > > integration
> > > > > tests and acceptance testing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on
> > topic X
> > > > and
> > > > > use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket
> > and
> > > > >   then people could demo using mercurial and git.
> > > > >   - It would be a candidate for using Tox
> > > > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/toxto
> > > > >   assist in making it 2/3 compatible
> > > > >   - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
> > > > >   http://readthedocs.org/
> > > > >      - checking your documentation examples with doctests
> > > > >   - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on
> > > pypi
> > > > >   - Using nosetest   w/wo coverage.py
> > > > >   - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the
> example
> > > --
> > > > a
> > > > > lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make
> sense,
> > > we
> > > > > would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could
> > get
> > > > > familiar with quickly.
> > > > >
> > > > > I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on
> this,
> > > but
> > > > I
> > > > > think we could make this or something like this a real win for the
> > > group.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Best,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > > > 402.218.1473
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Fri Mar 16 16:25:34 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:25:34 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Call for Presenters
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8pWB-Y6TcU3u_kUtP_OAzFA_q8bueSmBv7pDmvw=YvBw@mail.gmail.com>

If you would like to speak on a topic, please post to the list so we can
publish the announcement to the site.  I'm planning on giving a talk
focused towards those new to python.  It will be a live code-along session
where we'll start on the python based todo.txt app.  We are looking for mid
level/+ talk on another subject.

Also, we could do some lightening talks.  Presenter limited to 5 minutes --
they are fun and easier to prepare for and present.



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Fri Mar 16 19:07:58 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:07:58 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Call for Presenters
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8pWB-Y6TcU3u_kUtP_OAzFA_q8bueSmBv7pDmvw=YvBw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8pWB-Y6TcU3u_kUtP_OAzFA_q8bueSmBv7pDmvw=YvBw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzj2jPh=j6Pci4veF2VA9w=kLzu6V+QLxaEj+NAv8n7u+g@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds good.  I will try a trial run of hosting the group on a hangout.
 Add me to a circle if you are interested.  If I have time I could do a
lightning talk on my django experience.

Does anyone have a webcam we can use?

Steve


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
<jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> If you would like to speak on a topic, please post to the list so we can
> publish the announcement to the site.  I'm planning on giving a talk
> focused towards those new to python.  It will be a live code-along session
> where we'll start on the python based todo.txt app.  We are looking for mid
> level/+ talk on another subject.
>
> Also, we could do some lightening talks.  Presenter limited to 5 minutes --
> they are fun and easier to prepare for and present.
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 17 07:02:46 2012
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:02:46 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Web2py DAL on GAE now(ish) supports parent-child references
	directly
Message-ID: <CA+aHcdCphFETCNhSnzOe7GNa5B=P7U_LUsQ1X_nC75NQUsLdLg@mail.gmail.com>

Here's the update. Means that most of what people use joins for no longer
have to be run in the python code itself, they are done at the bigtable
level (if I'm reading this right). Anyone with more GAE experience than me
care to comment?

http://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/detail?id=694

From shawnhermans at gmail.com  Sun Mar 18 16:40:15 2012
From: shawnhermans at gmail.com (Shawn Hermans)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 10:40:15 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Python March Meeting Info
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzhNT2ExXERF7RJ8+-rs=WV2gOzBjes3fOb+38SW3C1qqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzhNT2ExXERF7RJ8+-rs=WV2gOzBjes3fOb+38SW3C1qqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C1016052-CEF0-4C8C-90DF-A6A7C682087A@gmail.com>

Don't think I will be able to make this one.  I have a homework assignment due in my programming languages class.  Programming in Prolog and Lisp has given me a better appreciation for Python for sure.   

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 15, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wednesday, March 21st at 13829 Industrial
> Road<http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Architectural+Lighting+Resources,+Industrial+Road,+Omaha,+NE&hl=en&sll=41.252363,-95.997988&sspn=0.962253,2.113495&oq=architectural+light&hq=Architectural+Lighting+Resources,&hnear=Industrial+Rd,+Omaha,+Nebraska&t=m&z=16>-
> Architectural Lighting Resources.  Next door to Briggs Kitchen and
> Bath.
> 
> We normally meet at 7pm but reply with your preference and we will adjust
> if necessary.
> 
> I will provide snacks and drinks.
> 
> 
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Tue Mar 20 22:46:05 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:46:05 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Call for Presenters
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzj2jPh=j6Pci4veF2VA9w=kLzu6V+QLxaEj+NAv8n7u+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8pWB-Y6TcU3u_kUtP_OAzFA_q8bueSmBv7pDmvw=YvBw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFGSzzj2jPh=j6Pci4veF2VA9w=kLzu6V+QLxaEj+NAv8n7u+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzj+GpHypDZri7PCrVZkq=zhpKYTtc0e31BruEh=z+tBUA@mail.gmail.com>

I have a webcam - I will send out a reminder email tomorrow before the
meeting if you want to join the hangout.  You will need to add me to a
circle to join.  Search for Steve Young Omaha and I have the snowboard
image.

Looking forward to seeing everyone.

Steve


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sounds good.  I will try a trial run of hosting the group on a hangout.
>  Add me to a circle if you are interested.  If I have time I could do a
> lightning talk on my django experience.
>
> Does anyone have a webcam we can use?
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > wrote:
>
>> If you would like to speak on a topic, please post to the list so we can
>> publish the announcement to the site.  I'm planning on giving a talk
>> focused towards those new to python.  It will be a live code-along session
>> where we'll start on the python based todo.txt app.  We are looking for
>> mid
>> level/+ talk on another subject.
>>
>> Also, we could do some lightening talks.  Presenter limited to 5 minutes
>> --
>> they are fun and easier to prepare for and present.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>>
>> Jeff Hinrichs
>> 402.218.1473
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
>
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Mar 21 04:10:52 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:10:52 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Call for Presenters
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzj+GpHypDZri7PCrVZkq=zhpKYTtc0e31BruEh=z+tBUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8pWB-Y6TcU3u_kUtP_OAzFA_q8bueSmBv7pDmvw=YvBw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFGSzzj2jPh=j6Pci4veF2VA9w=kLzu6V+QLxaEj+NAv8n7u+g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFGSzzj+GpHypDZri7PCrVZkq=zhpKYTtc0e31BruEh=z+tBUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_A+o2On90ACmH=O5uGv5uPFoScMRS=W5h0NtUjghZ0WA@mail.gmail.com>

I will be presenting the opening round of our todo.txt respin with python
for the "New to Python or Programming" section.  I am planning on this
being a code-a-long session where we take agile programming to the nth
degree by multi-person programming.   The goals for tomorrow night's
section will be:
 * Defining the problem
 * Initial architecture of the solution
 * Building a corner-stone class
 * Writing our first tests   (not necessarily in that order <g>)

To get ready for the fun, bring a laptop or device with:
 * python 2.x installed
 * virtualenv http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv
 * py.test http://pytest.org/latest/
http://pyvideo.org/video/645/pytest-rapid-and-simple-testing-with-python
 * a favorite editor
 * a smile

In the future I plan on doing a session on supporting Python 2 and 3 just
like CherryPy does,
http://pyvideo.org/video/689/how-cherrypy-supports-python-2-and-3 .  And
since I plan on using Tox
http://pyvideo.org/video/435/pycon-2011--supporting-all-versions-of-python-all
which
was written by Holger Krekel (the same guy who develops py.test) I figured
now would be a good time for me to tryout py.test instead of my trusted
nose.

We don't have an advanced level talk set in stone yet, so if you are
yearning to talk about a project you are working on, something in the
standard or 3rd party libs that saved your bacon or just made you say
"Cool." We'd love to have you tell us about it.  No experience required.

Also, Steve, if you wouldn't mind, would you post the particulars to the
web site so we can get the word out on Planet Python?  You've been doing
an awesome job.


This looks to be our best meeting yet!  Hope we see you there.

Best,

Jeff

p.s.  If you haven't heard already, the PyCon 2012 videos are up now.   And
a new site, http://pyvideo.org/ just launched with PyCon that maintains
links to all the PyCon videos, not just this year but for back to 2009.
 Also indexed are DjangoCon, PyOhio and other user group videos.  It is a
killer resource.

p.s.s  I'm off to work on the presentation some more.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> I have a webcam - I will send out a reminder email tomorrow before the
> meeting if you want to join the hangout.  You will need to add me to a
> circle to join.  Search for Steve Young Omaha and I have the snowboard
> image.
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Sounds good.  I will try a trial run of hosting the group on a hangout.
> >  Add me to a circle if you are interested.  If I have time I could do a
> > lightning talk on my django experience.
> >
> > Does anyone have a webcam we can use?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> If you would like to speak on a topic, please post to the list so we can
> >> publish the announcement to the site.  I'm planning on giving a talk
> >> focused towards those new to python.  It will be a live code-along
> session
> >> where we'll start on the python based todo.txt app.  We are looking for
> >> mid
> >> level/+ talk on another subject.
> >>
> >> Also, we could do some lightening talks.  Presenter limited to 5 minutes
> >> --
> >> they are fun and easier to prepare for and present.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> 402.218.1473
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Mar 21 04:17:47 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:17:47 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Python March Meeting Info
In-Reply-To: <C1016052-CEF0-4C8C-90DF-A6A7C682087A@gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzhNT2ExXERF7RJ8+-rs=WV2gOzBjes3fOb+38SW3C1qqQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1016052-CEF0-4C8C-90DF-A6A7C682087A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_VfP3yEkijbi=kDdXGQ_ghc187L9pfY9DeisiWYOHw=w@mail.gmail.com>

Shawn,
We'll miss you at the meeting.  I remember back to my Prolog and Lisp days.
  car car cdr <g>  The good thing is learning new languages gives you new
ways to view problems, and will make you a better programmer in whatever
language your are using at the time.  Have Fun.

Best,

Jeff

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Shawn Hermans <shawnhermans at gmail.com>wrote:

> Don't think I will be able to make this one.  I have a homework assignment
> due in my programming languages class.  Programming in Prolog and Lisp has
> given me a better appreciation for Python for sure.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 15, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Wednesday, March 21st at 13829 Industrial
> > Road<
> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Architectural+Lighting+Resources,+Industrial+Road,+Omaha,+NE&hl=en&sll=41.252363,-95.997988&sspn=0.962253,2.113495&oq=architectural+light&hq=Architectural+Lighting+Resources,&hnear=Industrial+Rd,+Omaha,+Nebraska&t=m&z=16
> >-
> > Architectural Lighting Resources.  Next door to Briggs Kitchen and
> > Bath.
> >
> > We normally meet at 7pm but reply with your preference and we will adjust
> > if necessary.
> >
> > I will provide snacks and drinks.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 21 04:29:41 2012
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:29:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Python March Meeting Info
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_VfP3yEkijbi=kDdXGQ_ghc187L9pfY9DeisiWYOHw=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzhNT2ExXERF7RJ8+-rs=WV2gOzBjes3fOb+38SW3C1qqQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1016052-CEF0-4C8C-90DF-A6A7C682087A@gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO_VfP3yEkijbi=kDdXGQ_ghc187L9pfY9DeisiWYOHw=w@mail.gmail.com>
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7 PM correct?

Joe



________________________________
 From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [omaha] Omaha Python March Meeting Info
 
Shawn,
We'll miss you at the meeting.? I remember back to my Prolog and Lisp days.
? car car cdr <g>? The good thing is learning new languages gives you new
ways to view problems, and will make you a better programmer in whatever
language your are using at the time.? Have Fun.

Best,

Jeff

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Shawn Hermans <shawnhermans at gmail.com>wrote:

> Don't think I will be able to make this one.? I have a homework assignment
> due in my programming languages class.? Programming in Prolog and Lisp has
> given me a better appreciation for Python for sure.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 15, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Wednesday, March 21st at 13829 Industrial
> > Road<
> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Architectural+Lighting+Resources,+Industrial+Road,+Omaha,+NE&hl=en&sll=41.252363,-95.997988&sspn=0.962253,2.113495&oq=architectural+light&hq=Architectural+Lighting+Resources,&hnear=Industrial+Rd,+Omaha,+Nebraska&t=m&z=16
> >-
> > Architectural Lighting Resources.? Next door to Briggs Kitchen and
> > Bath.
> >
> > We normally meet at 7pm but reply with your preference and we will adjust
> > if necessary.
> >
> > I will provide snacks and drinks.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Mar 21 05:17:43 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:17:43 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Python March Meeting Info
In-Reply-To: <1332300581.44709.YahooMailNeo@web112808.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAFGSzzhNT2ExXERF7RJ8+-rs=WV2gOzBjes3fOb+38SW3C1qqQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1016052-CEF0-4C8C-90DF-A6A7C682087A@gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO_VfP3yEkijbi=kDdXGQ_ghc187L9pfY9DeisiWYOHw=w@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes, http://www.omahapython.org/blog/
That's what I'm planning on.

Best,

Jeff

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 7 PM correct?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Omaha Python March Meeting Info
>
> Shawn,
> We'll miss you at the meeting.  I remember back to my Prolog and Lisp days.
>   car car cdr <g>  The good thing is learning new languages gives you new
> ways to view problems, and will make you a better programmer in whatever
> language your are using at the time.  Have Fun.
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Shawn Hermans <shawnhermans at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Don't think I will be able to make this one.  I have a homework
> assignment
> > due in my programming languages class.  Programming in Prolog and Lisp
> has
> > given me a better appreciation for Python for sure.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Mar 15, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wednesday, March 21st at 13829 Industrial
> > > Road<
> >
> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Architectural+Lighting+Resources,+Industrial+Road,+Omaha,+NE&hl=en&sll=41.252363,-95.997988&sspn=0.962253,2.113495&oq=architectural+light&hq=Architectural+Lighting+Resources,&hnear=Industrial+Rd,+Omaha,+Nebraska&t=m&z=16
> > >-
> > > Architectural Lighting Resources.  Next door to Briggs Kitchen and
> > > Bath.
> > >
> > > We normally meet at 7pm but reply with your preference and we will
> adjust
> > > if necessary.
> > >
> > > I will provide snacks and drinks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Mar 21 19:31:23 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:31:23 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Questions on installing virtualenv
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8Yt5U2ZMAvAr0JhMsGLFeJk-_sP0wjbZaqT0Z20_Ct5w@mail.gmail.com>

I've had a question about how to install virtualenv on ubuntu.
Shortest route:  start here -> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv
You can use
  pip install virtualenv   (if you have pip installed) This will install it
into your system
  easy_install virtualenv  (if you are still old school or swing that way)

If you are installing pip via the Ubuntu software repos, it is called
"python-pip"


If you have questions or problems with the set up for tonight, please email
the list.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Wed Mar 21 20:05:47 2012
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:05:47 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Questions on installing virtualenv
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8Yt5U2ZMAvAr0JhMsGLFeJk-_sP0wjbZaqT0Z20_Ct5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8Yt5U2ZMAvAr0JhMsGLFeJk-_sP0wjbZaqT0Z20_Ct5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+aHcdDeDhgvvb+Uxb4hO9qSMV-kWb=_tXcarqG3xK6cRkU56A@mail.gmail.com>

Also worth it to check out (it's short and sweet):
http://www.arthurkoziel.com/2008/10/22/working-virtualenv/

Good intro to virtualenv <http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv>, and
references virtualenvwrapper<http://www.doughellmann.com/projects/virtualenvwrapper/>,
which
is basically just a bash script that makes working with virtualenv even
simpler than it already is.

if you've never used virtualenv, you're missing out. It's one of the REALLY
nice things about python, yet another thing that keeps me happy with the
language.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> I've had a question about how to install virtualenv on ubuntu.
> Shortest route:  start here -> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv
> You can use
>  pip install virtualenv   (if you have pip installed) This will install it
> into your system
>  easy_install virtualenv  (if you are still old school or swing that way)
>
> If you are installing pip via the Ubuntu software repos, it is called
> "python-pip"
>
>
> If you have questions or problems with the set up for tonight, please email
> the list.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Mar 21 22:31:54 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:31:54 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Questions on installing virtualenv
In-Reply-To: <CA+aHcdDeDhgvvb+Uxb4hO9qSMV-kWb=_tXcarqG3xK6cRkU56A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8Yt5U2ZMAvAr0JhMsGLFeJk-_sP0wjbZaqT0Z20_Ct5w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+aHcdDeDhgvvb+Uxb4hO9qSMV-kWb=_tXcarqG3xK6cRkU56A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8SGBvrUv7t=QSfx5J0CdF9-9Gpk05dwjh8vJXpM+QShA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Tim,
Those are great resources.  Hope to see you at the meeting tonight!

Best,

Jeff

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Tim Alexander <dragonfyre13 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Also worth it to check out (it's short and sweet):
> http://www.arthurkoziel.com/2008/10/22/working-virtualenv/
>
> Good intro to virtualenv <http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv>, and
> references virtualenvwrapper<
> http://www.doughellmann.com/projects/virtualenvwrapper/>,
> which
> is basically just a bash script that makes working with virtualenv even
> simpler than it already is.
>
> if you've never used virtualenv, you're missing out. It's one of the REALLY
> nice things about python, yet another thing that keeps me happy with the
> language.
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I've had a question about how to install virtualenv on ubuntu.
> > Shortest route:  start here -> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv
> > You can use
> >  pip install virtualenv   (if you have pip installed) This will install
> it
> > into your system
> >  easy_install virtualenv  (if you are still old school or swing that way)
> >
> > If you are installing pip via the Ubuntu software repos, it is called
> > "python-pip"
> >
> >
> > If you have questions or problems with the set up for tonight, please
> email
> > the list.
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 00:17:52 2012
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:17:52 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Questions on installing virtualenv
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8SGBvrUv7t=QSfx5J0CdF9-9Gpk05dwjh8vJXpM+QShA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8Yt5U2ZMAvAr0JhMsGLFeJk-_sP0wjbZaqT0Z20_Ct5w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+aHcdDeDhgvvb+Uxb4hO9qSMV-kWb=_tXcarqG3xK6cRkU56A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO8SGBvrUv7t=QSfx5J0CdF9-9Gpk05dwjh8vJXpM+QShA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+aHcdCM7MPTcy4p9HT_rhgdmQ9RijrLCsh3st2ViXydVVZpaA@mail.gmail.com>

So do I! Trying to get out of here to make my way over there before we
start.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Thanks Tim,
> Those are great resources.  Hope to see you at the meeting tonight!
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Tim Alexander <dragonfyre13 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Also worth it to check out (it's short and sweet):
> > http://www.arthurkoziel.com/2008/10/22/working-virtualenv/
> >
> > Good intro to virtualenv <http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv>, and
> > references virtualenvwrapper<
> > http://www.doughellmann.com/projects/virtualenvwrapper/>,
> > which
> > is basically just a bash script that makes working with virtualenv even
> > simpler than it already is.
> >
> > if you've never used virtualenv, you're missing out. It's one of the
> REALLY
> > nice things about python, yet another thing that keeps me happy with the
> > language.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I've had a question about how to install virtualenv on ubuntu.
> > > Shortest route:  start here -> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv
> > > You can use
> > >  pip install virtualenv   (if you have pip installed) This will install
> > it
> > > into your system
> > >  easy_install virtualenv  (if you are still old school or swing that
> way)
> > >
> > > If you are installing pip via the Ubuntu software repos, it is called
> > > "python-pip"
> > >
> > >
> > > If you have questions or problems with the set up for tonight, please
> > email
> > > the list.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Fri Mar 23 05:29:41 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 23:29:41 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Stuff from last night's meeting
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_bMUAcwcz+6fW9BQOdATe7NW+fnBbgj3Yz3GaD2jWQGQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am attaching the task.py and task_test.py files from last night.  You'll
note that I've stubbed out the .toString method as well.
You can also grab the code from https://bitbucket.org/dundeemt/todopy

Secondly, you'll notice that I've started the unit tests for the Class.
 Once you get the .fromString method working you should be able to pass all
the included tests.

Also, PythonAnyWhere.com is way cool.  Thanks to Tim for pointing it out.


-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473
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From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Sun Mar 25 23:55:24 2012
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:55:24 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Anyone worked on todopy?
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8YKvFaa=-TOrAJ-qQCYRT-KzCipe0saW6F66U+KNS7tA@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone had a chance to work on todopy since the meeting?  If it would
be of help, I think we could probably arrange a virtual session using
PythonAnywhere (Thanks, Tim).

I've been hacking on it and it has been fun.  I've re/discovered a number
of things as I've been working on it.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Mon Mar 26 02:56:01 2012
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:56:01 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Anyone worked on todopy?
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8YKvFaa=-TOrAJ-qQCYRT-KzCipe0saW6F66U+KNS7tA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8YKvFaa=-TOrAJ-qQCYRT-KzCipe0saW6F66U+KNS7tA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzhhFYZPLuGG5oFCRkTY7973FAG==6QPhirJqup-4k5XRQ@mail.gmail.com>

I was on vacation a few days and just got back into town - I will try and
do a little work on it in the next couple of days.

+1 on the virtual session, or another way to share code.

Steve


On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Has anyone had a chance to work on todopy since the meeting?  If it would
> be of help, I think we could probably arrange a virtual session using
> PythonAnywhere (Thanks, Tim).
>
> I've been hacking on it and it has been fun.  I've re/discovered a number
> of things as I've been working on it.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>