From bkealey at unomaha.edu  Mon Jul  1 01:31:20 2013
From: bkealey at unomaha.edu (Burch Kealey)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 23:31:20 +0000
Subject: [omaha] Matts Visit
In-Reply-To: <CAOQmnQF7=bcShgYbOrYw1nsuewM3+BrGbjgggCH=_psETOaSPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4293E60B323B40429454D64601E678DE55801571@BY2PRD0711MB428.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>,
	<CAOQmnQF7=bcShgYbOrYw1nsuewM3+BrGbjgggCH=_psETOaSPw@mail.gmail.com>
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Matt

You will be allowed to park in Mammel Hall's parking lots on Monday.

Burch
________________________________________
From: Omaha [omaha-bounces+bkealey=mail.unomaha.edu at python.org] on behalf of Matt Payne [Payne at MattPayne.org]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:02 AM
To: Omaha Python Users Group
Subject: Re: [omaha] Matts Visit

What is the suggestion for parking tomorrow?   Park in the Aksarben retail
area and walk to MAMMEL HALL?  Or is there public parking at UNO?   Thanks
--Matt


On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu> wrote:

> I am going to jump off a ledge here and do the following
>
> 1- Reserve a room at UNO's Mammell Hall for July 1 from 4:30 to 7:30
> 2. Plan a 45 minute social arrival window
> 3. Schedule Matt to be on for a 'talk' from 5:15 to 6:15
> 4. Have up to 1/2 hour for questions and audience exchange
> 5. Make arrangements for pizza to be delivered around 6:30
> 6: Have more social - mingling time from 6:30/6:45 until 7:30 - pizza and
> soft drinks
> 7. Award a $100 gift card to Manning, O'Reilly or Best-Buy to one of the
> attendees who registers on the event page I will create using Eventbrite
> sometime this weekend and is present when we have the drawing.
>
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
> Once I send the Eventbrite link though I would really appreciate it if you
> would forward this far and wide - I am assuming right at this moment we can
> get the auditorium (the last public event in the auditorium was Warren
> Buffett sending his first tweet so Matt will be in august company).
>
> As an aside I will make sure all the faculty who are teaching at PKI right
> now have the link and ask them to send it to their students.
>
> MATT you have to indicate if this works for you - particularly is the
> speaking time enough or too much!!
>
>
> I want to tell you that this is going to be tough because I am starting a
> sabbatical this week and I thought I was going to get a clean break - not
> the case (that is a little dry-humor if you don't get it don't sweat it).
>
>
>
> Burch T Kealey, PhD
> Associate Professor of Accounting
> Director of MAcc Program
> Hockett Professor of Accounting
> OFFICE: MH-228-CC
> Direct 402-554-3571
> Assistant (Darryl Burgdorf) 402-554-3650
> MAIL TO:
>
> University of Nebraska at Omaha
> 6708 Pine Street
> MH 228-CC
> Omaha NE, 68182-0048
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org



From matt.g.payne at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 02:23:55 2013
From: matt.g.payne at gmail.com (Matt Payne)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:23:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [omaha] Matts Visit
In-Reply-To: <4293E60B323B40429454D64601E678DE5580BF32@BY2PRD0711MB428.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <4293E60B323B40429454D64601E678DE5580BF32@BY2PRD0711MB428.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1372638234699.b2828442@Nodemailer>

Sweet! ? That's great news. ? Thanks!
?
Matt Payne; cell: (402) 208-8787
Sent from Mailbox for iPhone

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu> wrote:

> Matt
> You will be allowed to park in Mammel Hall's parking lots on Monday.
> Burch
> ________________________________________
> From: Omaha [omaha-bounces+bkealey=mail.unomaha.edu at python.org] on behalf of Matt Payne [Payne at MattPayne.org]
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:02 AM
> To: Omaha Python Users Group
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Matts Visit
> What is the suggestion for parking tomorrow?   Park in the Aksarben retail
> area and walk to MAMMEL HALL?  Or is there public parking at UNO?   Thanks
> --Matt
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu> wrote:
>> I am going to jump off a ledge here and do the following
>>
>> 1- Reserve a room at UNO's Mammell Hall for July 1 from 4:30 to 7:30
>> 2. Plan a 45 minute social arrival window
>> 3. Schedule Matt to be on for a 'talk' from 5:15 to 6:15
>> 4. Have up to 1/2 hour for questions and audience exchange
>> 5. Make arrangements for pizza to be delivered around 6:30
>> 6: Have more social - mingling time from 6:30/6:45 until 7:30 - pizza and
>> soft drinks
>> 7. Award a $100 gift card to Manning, O'Reilly or Best-Buy to one of the
>> attendees who registers on the event page I will create using Eventbrite
>> sometime this weekend and is present when we have the drawing.
>>
>> Any feedback would be appreciated.
>>
>> Once I send the Eventbrite link though I would really appreciate it if you
>> would forward this far and wide - I am assuming right at this moment we can
>> get the auditorium (the last public event in the auditorium was Warren
>> Buffett sending his first tweet so Matt will be in august company).
>>
>> As an aside I will make sure all the faculty who are teaching at PKI right
>> now have the link and ask them to send it to their students.
>>
>> MATT you have to indicate if this works for you - particularly is the
>> speaking time enough or too much!!
>>
>>
>> I want to tell you that this is going to be tough because I am starting a
>> sabbatical this week and I thought I was going to get a clean break - not
>> the case (that is a little dry-humor if you don't get it don't sweat it).
>>
>>
>>
>> Burch T Kealey, PhD
>> Associate Professor of Accounting
>> Director of MAcc Program
>> Hockett Professor of Accounting
>> OFFICE: MH-228-CC
>> Direct 402-554-3571
>> Assistant (Darryl Burgdorf) 402-554-3650
>> MAIL TO:
>>
>> University of Nebraska at Omaha
>> 6708 Pine Street
>> MH 228-CC
>> Omaha NE, 68182-0048
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Mon Jul  1 07:20:00 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:20:00 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Matts Visit
In-Reply-To: <1372638234699.b2828442@Nodemailer>
References: <4293E60B323B40429454D64601E678DE5580BF32@BY2PRD0711MB428.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
	<1372638234699.b2828442@Nodemailer>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-LS-dcxN0HV1+k0A66LoMA8p4mRzdt0t4DKT76zUuz7w@mail.gmail.com>

I've posted to G+ so +1 the story or write your own.   A good turn out
would be a great thing!

Best,
Jeff


On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Matt Payne <matt.g.payne at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sweet!   That's great news.   Thanks!
> ?
> Matt Payne; cell: (402) 208-8787
> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu> wrote:
>
> > Matt
> > You will be allowed to park in Mammel Hall's parking lots on Monday.
> > Burch
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Omaha [omaha-bounces+bkealey=mail.unomaha.edu at python.org] on
> behalf of Matt Payne [Payne at MattPayne.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:02 AM
> > To: Omaha Python Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Matts Visit
> > What is the suggestion for parking tomorrow?   Park in the Aksarben
> retail
> > area and walk to MAMMEL HALL?  Or is there public parking at UNO?
> Thanks
> > --Matt
> > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu>
> wrote:
> >> I am going to jump off a ledge here and do the following
> >>
> >> 1- Reserve a room at UNO's Mammell Hall for July 1 from 4:30 to 7:30
> >> 2. Plan a 45 minute social arrival window
> >> 3. Schedule Matt to be on for a 'talk' from 5:15 to 6:15
> >> 4. Have up to 1/2 hour for questions and audience exchange
> >> 5. Make arrangements for pizza to be delivered around 6:30
> >> 6: Have more social - mingling time from 6:30/6:45 until 7:30 - pizza
> and
> >> soft drinks
> >> 7. Award a $100 gift card to Manning, O'Reilly or Best-Buy to one of the
> >> attendees who registers on the event page I will create using Eventbrite
> >> sometime this weekend and is present when we have the drawing.
> >>
> >> Any feedback would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Once I send the Eventbrite link though I would really appreciate it if
> you
> >> would forward this far and wide - I am assuming right at this moment we
> can
> >> get the auditorium (the last public event in the auditorium was Warren
> >> Buffett sending his first tweet so Matt will be in august company).
> >>
> >> As an aside I will make sure all the faculty who are teaching at PKI
> right
> >> now have the link and ask them to send it to their students.
> >>
> >> MATT you have to indicate if this works for you - particularly is the
> >> speaking time enough or too much!!
> >>
> >>
> >> I want to tell you that this is going to be tough because I am starting
> a
> >> sabbatical this week and I thought I was going to get a clean break -
> not
> >> the case (that is a little dry-humor if you don't get it don't sweat
> it).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Burch T Kealey, PhD
> >> Associate Professor of Accounting
> >> Director of MAcc Program
> >> Hockett Professor of Accounting
> >> OFFICE: MH-228-CC
> >> Direct 402-554-3571
> >> Assistant (Darryl Burgdorf) 402-554-3650
> >> MAIL TO:
> >>
> >> University of Nebraska at Omaha
> >> 6708 Pine Street
> >> MH 228-CC
> >> Omaha NE, 68182-0048
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From choman at gmail.com  Mon Jul  1 22:19:49 2013
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:19:49 -0500
Subject: [omaha] [OT] Happy Fourth Of July
Message-ID: <CA+Xrk5iTk07weELErwcqyHA3H5_36sW49dzv0yU5suRX2z-tGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Wishing everyone a great and safe Independence Day Celebration, booyah

Together We Win!
--
Chad - I AM MONAVIE
Do You Know Your Life Score? <http://choman.mymonavie.com>
Creating A More Meaningful Life

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
Windows."
Now they have two problems.

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Tue Jul  2 03:49:11 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 20:49:11 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-th9oZBsaiF+nv0qJd6rUEcDbThGUS+uxU19DKGtC6Tg@mail.gmail.com>

First off a BIG thank you to both Matthew Makai, for presenting and to
Burch for Organizing the event.  Also, to DirectEDGAR for sponsoring the
food, drinks and door prize.  There were a number of really good ideas and
feedback tonight on what can be done to make Omaha's (Python) Developer
Community Awesome.  More specifically, a community for self selecting
Python Users.

Python Users Group - Better external communication and PR.  While we do
have fairly regular meetings and a set night, unless you are on the mailing
list, you wouldn't know if we were meeting physically or virtually.
Personally, I'd like to see someone step up as meeting and/or communication
coordinator.  They would confirm the venue, send out reminders to the list
and external sources such as TechOmaha and SPN and post to the
omahapython.org site(which in turn get's picked up by Planet Python)  I
know that we can get speakers, even if remote.   I've been hesitant to
pursue this in the past because our meeting numbers have been inconsistent.
 If we could increase the size of our core group and then have an
additional percentage of occasional attendees it would go a long way.

Community Events -  (I am sure we could get some amount of funding from the
PSF and DSF for the first two)
* An Intro to Python type event
* A Build a django app event
* Hacking Events ala the World Herald projects

PR Project -
* Compile a list of local companies that use software written in Python and
have Python in production
* Coordinate with SPN and get them to do a story on Python in Omaha

Matthew and the Audience had more that I don't have here so mail the ideas
back to the list.

Also, if you are so inclined, pick a idea that speaks to you and become its
champion.   Just as in Open Source, things get done by the people who do
them.  Be a Do'er.    Use the Omaha Python list and site to make your
thoughts reality.

Best,

Jeff

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From matt.wynn at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 03:58:56 2013
From: matt.wynn at gmail.com (Matt Wynn)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 20:58:56 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Paging Jeff
Message-ID: <CAFXqcUrBxbT4ajLgLF0Y7t9AuqR4PUOLOV=iRrSf_L4UHHS7nQ@mail.gmail.com>

Let's get coffee!

-Matt

From jaybocc2 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 04:42:35 2013
From: jaybocc2 at gmail.com (Jay Bendon)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 21:42:35 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO-th9oZBsaiF+nv0qJd6rUEcDbThGUS+uxU19DKGtC6Tg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-th9oZBsaiF+nv0qJd6rUEcDbThGUS+uxU19DKGtC6Tg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO630UkZWPptnhs=HfPE6ub4B60rrT_1QUKkpZb3JpVd3Mwvng@mail.gmail.com>

I'm really bummed i couldn't make it but i got stuck at work late tonight.

Glad to hear it went so well!

--Jay


On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> First off a BIG thank you to both Matthew Makai, for presenting and to
> Burch for Organizing the event.  Also, to DirectEDGAR for sponsoring the
> food, drinks and door prize.  There were a number of really good ideas and
> feedback tonight on what can be done to make Omaha's (Python) Developer
> Community Awesome.  More specifically, a community for self selecting
> Python Users.
>
> Python Users Group - Better external communication and PR.  While we do
> have fairly regular meetings and a set night, unless you are on the mailing
> list, you wouldn't know if we were meeting physically or virtually.
> Personally, I'd like to see someone step up as meeting and/or communication
> coordinator.  They would confirm the venue, send out reminders to the list
> and external sources such as TechOmaha and SPN and post to the
> omahapython.org site(which in turn get's picked up by Planet Python)  I
> know that we can get speakers, even if remote.   I've been hesitant to
> pursue this in the past because our meeting numbers have been inconsistent.
>  If we could increase the size of our core group and then have an
> additional percentage of occasional attendees it would go a long way.
>
> Community Events -  (I am sure we could get some amount of funding from the
> PSF and DSF for the first two)
> * An Intro to Python type event
> * A Build a django app event
> * Hacking Events ala the World Herald projects
>
> PR Project -
> * Compile a list of local companies that use software written in Python and
> have Python in production
> * Coordinate with SPN and get them to do a story on Python in Omaha
>
> Matthew and the Audience had more that I don't have here so mail the ideas
> back to the list.
>
> Also, if you are so inclined, pick a idea that speaks to you and become its
> champion.   Just as in Open Source, things get done by the people who do
> them.  Be a Do'er.    Use the Omaha Python list and site to make your
> thoughts reality.
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From choman at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 05:00:48 2013
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:00:48 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAO630UkZWPptnhs=HfPE6ub4B60rrT_1QUKkpZb3JpVd3Mwvng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-th9oZBsaiF+nv0qJd6rUEcDbThGUS+uxU19DKGtC6Tg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO630UkZWPptnhs=HfPE6ub4B60rrT_1QUKkpZb3JpVd3Mwvng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xrk5jmJ4mQPAou9n4a-dggzekitOEbsAJPK9RWvOm6JcAtJg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm bummed to, I was looking forward to this.  Damm you work.

By any chance was this recorded for ustream? ;)  Wishful thinging

Together We Win!
--
Chad - I AM MONAVIE
Do You Know Your Life Score? <http://choman.mymonavie.com>
Creating A More Meaningful Life

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
Windows."
Now they have two problems.


On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm really bummed i couldn't make it but i got stuck at work late tonight.
>
> Glad to hear it went so well!
>
> --Jay
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > First off a BIG thank you to both Matthew Makai, for presenting and to
> > Burch for Organizing the event.  Also, to DirectEDGAR for sponsoring the
> > food, drinks and door prize.  There were a number of really good ideas
> and
> > feedback tonight on what can be done to make Omaha's (Python) Developer
> > Community Awesome.  More specifically, a community for self selecting
> > Python Users.
> >
> > Python Users Group - Better external communication and PR.  While we do
> > have fairly regular meetings and a set night, unless you are on the
> mailing
> > list, you wouldn't know if we were meeting physically or virtually.
> > Personally, I'd like to see someone step up as meeting and/or
> communication
> > coordinator.  They would confirm the venue, send out reminders to the
> list
> > and external sources such as TechOmaha and SPN and post to the
> > omahapython.org site(which in turn get's picked up by Planet Python)  I
> > know that we can get speakers, even if remote.   I've been hesitant to
> > pursue this in the past because our meeting numbers have been
> inconsistent.
> >  If we could increase the size of our core group and then have an
> > additional percentage of occasional attendees it would go a long way.
> >
> > Community Events -  (I am sure we could get some amount of funding from
> the
> > PSF and DSF for the first two)
> > * An Intro to Python type event
> > * A Build a django app event
> > * Hacking Events ala the World Herald projects
> >
> > PR Project -
> > * Compile a list of local companies that use software written in Python
> and
> > have Python in production
> > * Coordinate with SPN and get them to do a story on Python in Omaha
> >
> > Matthew and the Audience had more that I don't have here so mail the
> ideas
> > back to the list.
> >
> > Also, if you are so inclined, pick a idea that speaks to you and become
> its
> > champion.   Just as in Open Source, things get done by the people who do
> > them.  Be a Do'er.    Use the Omaha Python list and site to make your
> > thoughts reality.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Tue Jul  2 06:37:03 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 23:37:03 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xrk5jmJ4mQPAou9n4a-dggzekitOEbsAJPK9RWvOm6JcAtJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-th9oZBsaiF+nv0qJd6rUEcDbThGUS+uxU19DKGtC6Tg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO630UkZWPptnhs=HfPE6ub4B60rrT_1QUKkpZb3JpVd3Mwvng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+Xrk5jmJ4mQPAou9n4a-dggzekitOEbsAJPK9RWvOm6JcAtJg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO9E_WtdOaeCVnG+D=0-q=pX46o1EB9S=1KTb3cjssTvSw@mail.gmail.com>

It was being recorded.  Of course, I completely forgot who was recording, I
think it might have been Burch.   Burch, any chance that recording is going
to be generally available?

Best,

Jeff
p.s.  We missed you both!


On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm bummed to, I was looking forward to this.  Damm you work.
>
> By any chance was this recorded for ustream? ;)  Wishful thinging
>
> Together We Win!
> --
> Chad - I AM MONAVIE
> Do You Know Your Life Score? <http://choman.mymonavie.com>
> Creating A More Meaningful Life
>
> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
> Windows."
> Now they have two problems.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm really bummed i couldn't make it but i got stuck at work late
> tonight.
> >
> > Glad to hear it went so well!
> >
> > --Jay
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > First off a BIG thank you to both Matthew Makai, for presenting and to
> > > Burch for Organizing the event.  Also, to DirectEDGAR for sponsoring
> the
> > > food, drinks and door prize.  There were a number of really good ideas
> > and
> > > feedback tonight on what can be done to make Omaha's (Python) Developer
> > > Community Awesome.  More specifically, a community for self selecting
> > > Python Users.
> > >
> > > Python Users Group - Better external communication and PR.  While we do
> > > have fairly regular meetings and a set night, unless you are on the
> > mailing
> > > list, you wouldn't know if we were meeting physically or virtually.
> > > Personally, I'd like to see someone step up as meeting and/or
> > communication
> > > coordinator.  They would confirm the venue, send out reminders to the
> > list
> > > and external sources such as TechOmaha and SPN and post to the
> > > omahapython.org site(which in turn get's picked up by Planet Python)
>  I
> > > know that we can get speakers, even if remote.   I've been hesitant to
> > > pursue this in the past because our meeting numbers have been
> > inconsistent.
> > >  If we could increase the size of our core group and then have an
> > > additional percentage of occasional attendees it would go a long way.
> > >
> > > Community Events -  (I am sure we could get some amount of funding from
> > the
> > > PSF and DSF for the first two)
> > > * An Intro to Python type event
> > > * A Build a django app event
> > > * Hacking Events ala the World Herald projects
> > >
> > > PR Project -
> > > * Compile a list of local companies that use software written in Python
> > and
> > > have Python in production
> > > * Coordinate with SPN and get them to do a story on Python in Omaha
> > >
> > > Matthew and the Audience had more that I don't have here so mail the
> > ideas
> > > back to the list.
> > >
> > > Also, if you are so inclined, pick a idea that speaks to you and become
> > its
> > > champion.   Just as in Open Source, things get done by the people who
> do
> > > them.  Be a Do'er.    Use the Omaha Python list and site to make your
> > > thoughts reality.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Tue Jul  2 06:34:43 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 23:34:43 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Paging Jeff
In-Reply-To: <CAFXqcUrBxbT4ajLgLF0Y7t9AuqR4PUOLOV=iRrSf_L4UHHS7nQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFXqcUrBxbT4ajLgLF0Y7t9AuqR4PUOLOV=iRrSf_L4UHHS7nQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO9577+ZEE2K3QEtX49VkOqz3JfBMCzKY=ULKeSfDin_7A@mail.gmail.com>

Let's do.  My lunch times are flexible, I can meet up any time between
11:15 and 2pm.  I work across the river in CB, so if you are located
downtown that would work out well.

Let me know.



On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Let's get coffee!
>
> -Matt
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From bkealey at unomaha.edu  Tue Jul  2 06:49:42 2013
From: bkealey at unomaha.edu (Burch Kealey)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 04:49:42 +0000
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO9E_WtdOaeCVnG+D=0-q=pX46o1EB9S=1KTb3cjssTvSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-th9oZBsaiF+nv0qJd6rUEcDbThGUS+uxU19DKGtC6Tg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO630UkZWPptnhs=HfPE6ub4B60rrT_1QUKkpZb3JpVd3Mwvng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+Xrk5jmJ4mQPAou9n4a-dggzekitOEbsAJPK9RWvOm6JcAtJg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CALHZEO9E_WtdOaeCVnG+D=0-q=pX46o1EB9S=1KTb3cjssTvSw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4293E60B323B40429454D64601E678DE5580D6D2@BY2PRD0711MB428.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

The recording will be available but I think a better one will be shortly available.  Jeff I sent an email to your sales at dundeemt.com email address.  

But it bounced can you send me a good email address for you to my work email.

Thanks.


________________________________________
From: Omaha [omaha-bounces+bkealey=mail.unomaha.edu at python.org] on behalf of Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T [jeffh at dundeemt.com]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:37 PM
To: Omaha Python Users Group
Subject: Re: [omaha] Great Meeting

It was being recorded.  Of course, I completely forgot who was recording, I
think it might have been Burch.   Burch, any chance that recording is going
to be generally available?

Best,

Jeff
p.s.  We missed you both!


On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm bummed to, I was looking forward to this.  Damm you work.
>
> By any chance was this recorded for ustream? ;)  Wishful thinging
>
> Together We Win!
> --
> Chad - I AM MONAVIE
> Do You Know Your Life Score? <http://choman.mymonavie.com>
> Creating A More Meaningful Life
>
> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
> Windows."
> Now they have two problems.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm really bummed i couldn't make it but i got stuck at work late
> tonight.
> >
> > Glad to hear it went so well!
> >
> > --Jay
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > First off a BIG thank you to both Matthew Makai, for presenting and to
> > > Burch for Organizing the event.  Also, to DirectEDGAR for sponsoring
> the
> > > food, drinks and door prize.  There were a number of really good ideas
> > and
> > > feedback tonight on what can be done to make Omaha's (Python) Developer
> > > Community Awesome.  More specifically, a community for self selecting
> > > Python Users.
> > >
> > > Python Users Group - Better external communication and PR.  While we do
> > > have fairly regular meetings and a set night, unless you are on the
> > mailing
> > > list, you wouldn't know if we were meeting physically or virtually.
> > > Personally, I'd like to see someone step up as meeting and/or
> > communication
> > > coordinator.  They would confirm the venue, send out reminders to the
> > list
> > > and external sources such as TechOmaha and SPN and post to the
> > > omahapython.org site(which in turn get's picked up by Planet Python)
>  I
> > > know that we can get speakers, even if remote.   I've been hesitant to
> > > pursue this in the past because our meeting numbers have been
> > inconsistent.
> > >  If we could increase the size of our core group and then have an
> > > additional percentage of occasional attendees it would go a long way.
> > >
> > > Community Events -  (I am sure we could get some amount of funding from
> > the
> > > PSF and DSF for the first two)
> > > * An Intro to Python type event
> > > * A Build a django app event
> > > * Hacking Events ala the World Herald projects
> > >
> > > PR Project -
> > > * Compile a list of local companies that use software written in Python
> > and
> > > have Python in production
> > > * Coordinate with SPN and get them to do a story on Python in Omaha
> > >
> > > Matthew and the Audience had more that I don't have here so mail the
> > ideas
> > > back to the list.
> > >
> > > Also, if you are so inclined, pick a idea that speaks to you and become
> > its
> > > champion.   Just as in Open Source, things get done by the people who
> do
> > > them.  Be a Do'er.    Use the Omaha Python list and site to make your
> > > thoughts reality.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



--
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org



From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Tue Jul  2 14:42:10 2013
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:42:10 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Great Meeting
In-Reply-To: <4293E60B323B40429454D64601E678DE5580D6D2@BY2PRD0711MB428.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CALHZEO-th9oZBsaiF+nv0qJd6rUEcDbThGUS+uxU19DKGtC6Tg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO630UkZWPptnhs=HfPE6ub4B60rrT_1QUKkpZb3JpVd3Mwvng@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+Xrk5jmJ4mQPAou9n4a-dggzekitOEbsAJPK9RWvOm6JcAtJg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO9E_WtdOaeCVnG+D=0-q=pX46o1EB9S=1KTb3cjssTvSw@mail.gmail.com>
	<4293E60B323B40429454D64601E678DE5580D6D2@BY2PRD0711MB428.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzziAs+U=1FZORO43gk3TH4Ap8dVQcB4mSu0wh4W4Mn4p=g@mail.gmail.com>

I think it was Ryan (?) with TechOmaha.com that did the recording.  He has
done some really nice work - lots of area event videos are on his site.

Thanks to Burch, Matt, Ryan, Jeff, and everyone who came out.

Steve


On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu> wrote:

> The recording will be available but I think a better one will be shortly
> available.  Jeff I sent an email to your sales at dundeemt.com email address.
>
> But it bounced can you send me a good email address for you to my work
> email.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Omaha [omaha-bounces+bkealey=mail.unomaha.edu at python.org] on behalf
> of Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T [jeffh at dundeemt.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:37 PM
> To: Omaha Python Users Group
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Great Meeting
>
> It was being recorded.  Of course, I completely forgot who was recording, I
> think it might have been Burch.   Burch, any chance that recording is going
> to be generally available?
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff
> p.s.  We missed you both!
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm bummed to, I was looking forward to this.  Damm you work.
> >
> > By any chance was this recorded for ustream? ;)  Wishful thinging
> >
> > Together We Win!
> > --
> > Chad - I AM MONAVIE
> > Do You Know Your Life Score? <http://choman.mymonavie.com>
> > Creating A More Meaningful Life
> >
> > Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
> > Windows."
> > Now they have two problems.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm really bummed i couldn't make it but i got stuck at work late
> > tonight.
> > >
> > > Glad to hear it went so well!
> > >
> > > --Jay
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > First off a BIG thank you to both Matthew Makai, for presenting and
> to
> > > > Burch for Organizing the event.  Also, to DirectEDGAR for sponsoring
> > the
> > > > food, drinks and door prize.  There were a number of really good
> ideas
> > > and
> > > > feedback tonight on what can be done to make Omaha's (Python)
> Developer
> > > > Community Awesome.  More specifically, a community for self selecting
> > > > Python Users.
> > > >
> > > > Python Users Group - Better external communication and PR.  While we
> do
> > > > have fairly regular meetings and a set night, unless you are on the
> > > mailing
> > > > list, you wouldn't know if we were meeting physically or virtually.
> > > > Personally, I'd like to see someone step up as meeting and/or
> > > communication
> > > > coordinator.  They would confirm the venue, send out reminders to the
> > > list
> > > > and external sources such as TechOmaha and SPN and post to the
> > > > omahapython.org site(which in turn get's picked up by Planet Python)
> >  I
> > > > know that we can get speakers, even if remote.   I've been hesitant
> to
> > > > pursue this in the past because our meeting numbers have been
> > > inconsistent.
> > > >  If we could increase the size of our core group and then have an
> > > > additional percentage of occasional attendees it would go a long way.
> > > >
> > > > Community Events -  (I am sure we could get some amount of funding
> from
> > > the
> > > > PSF and DSF for the first two)
> > > > * An Intro to Python type event
> > > > * A Build a django app event
> > > > * Hacking Events ala the World Herald projects
> > > >
> > > > PR Project -
> > > > * Compile a list of local companies that use software written in
> Python
> > > and
> > > > have Python in production
> > > > * Coordinate with SPN and get them to do a story on Python in Omaha
> > > >
> > > > Matthew and the Audience had more that I don't have here so mail the
> > > ideas
> > > > back to the list.
> > > >
> > > > Also, if you are so inclined, pick a idea that speaks to you and
> become
> > > its
> > > > champion.   Just as in Open Source, things get done by the people who
> > do
> > > > them.  Be a Do'er.    Use the Omaha Python list and site to make your
> > > > thoughts reality.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > > 402.218.1473
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From bkealey at unomaha.edu  Tue Jul  2 20:44:03 2013
From: bkealey at unomaha.edu (Burch Kealey)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 18:44:03 +0000
Subject: [omaha] Recording
Message-ID: <4293E60B323B40429454D64601E678DE5580EB4E@BY2PRD0711MB428.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Here is the recording of Matt's Talk

Burch

From bkealey at unomaha.edu  Tue Jul  2 21:53:23 2013
From: bkealey at unomaha.edu (Burch Kealey)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:53:23 +0000
Subject: [omaha] Recording
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO9Y06Lghnt+GLisbq8vKu1sLuAW1bmeuoY+1xdZmH0=qA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4293E60B323B40429454D64601E678DE5580EB4E@BY2PRD0711MB428.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>,
	<CALHZEO9Y06Lghnt+GLisbq8vKu1sLuAW1bmeuoY+1xdZmH0=qA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4293E60B323B40429454D64601E678DE5580ED55@BY2PRD0711MB428.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

Sorry

http://ess.cba.edu:8080/ess/echo/presentation/45f31ee9-e8fb-4876-a73c-df6a66ca4628
________________________________
From: dundeemt at gmail.com [dundeemt at gmail.com] on behalf of Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T [jeffh at dundeemt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 2:44 PM
To: Burch Kealey
Subject: Fwd: [omaha] Recording

Hi Burch,
Somehow the link didn't come across.  Would you resend?

Thanks!
-jeff

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu<mailto:bkealey at unomaha.edu>>
Date: Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Subject: [omaha] Recording
To: "omaha at python.org<mailto:omaha at python.org>" <omaha at python.org<mailto:omaha at python.org>>
Cc: "matthew.makai at gmail.com<mailto:matthew.makai at gmail.com>" <matthew.makai at gmail.com<mailto:matthew.makai at gmail.com>>, Ryan Stille <ryan at stillnet.org<mailto:ryan at stillnet.org>>


Here is the recording of Matt's Talk

Burch
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org<mailto:Omaha at python.org>
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org



--
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473


From matt.wynn at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 00:48:37 2013
From: matt.wynn at gmail.com (Matt Wynn)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:48:37 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Jeff lunch/coffee
Message-ID: <CAFXqcUpaLAsp54EiQQHrgTNRdXQN6ePCwEEkPUTkDy_PCrKwHw@mail.gmail.com>

Giving this a shot -- seems like maybe the listed e-mail doesn't work?

I'm up for coffee or lunch early next week. I am downtown, so sounds like
we can find a workable place pretty easily.

Let me know. Looking forward to it!

From Payne at MattPayne.org  Fri Jul  5 04:20:39 2013
From: Payne at MattPayne.org (Matt Payne)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 21:20:39 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Jeff lunch/coffee
In-Reply-To: <CAFXqcUpaLAsp54EiQQHrgTNRdXQN6ePCwEEkPUTkDy_PCrKwHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFXqcUpaLAsp54EiQQHrgTNRdXQN6ePCwEEkPUTkDy_PCrKwHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOQmnQHAvEi6jbT_oDoCj7msbbjUz-7h6dcV_bkqrEW7hQr=tg@mail.gmail.com>

I would like to be in a special interest group (SIG) of Omaha Python that
has a focus of Hack Omaha types of things done in Django.    I'm very
interested in the Hack Omaha types of things.   Since Matt Wynn would like
them done in Django, I'm up for using Django.   Also, Matt Makai made a
great case for Django on Monday 7/1/2013.

At meetups of this Hack Omaha with Python and Django we could go through
Django tutorials.   We could also present on projects as we work on them.

I'm available for lunch any day next week except 7/12/13.   Hope to meet
with you all soon.   Thanks --Matt Payne; cell: (402) 208 8787


On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Giving this a shot -- seems like maybe the listed e-mail doesn't work?
>
> I'm up for coffee or lunch early next week. I am downtown, so sounds like
> we can find a workable place pretty easily.
>
> Let me know. Looking forward to it!
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
"To go faster, slow down. Everybody who knows about orbital mechanics
understands that."
-- Scott Cherf as quoted at http://www.multicians.org/thvv/proverbs.html

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Fri Jul  5 18:38:27 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 11:38:27 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Jeff lunch/coffee
In-Reply-To: <CAOQmnQHAvEi6jbT_oDoCj7msbbjUz-7h6dcV_bkqrEW7hQr=tg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFXqcUpaLAsp54EiQQHrgTNRdXQN6ePCwEEkPUTkDy_PCrKwHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOQmnQHAvEi6jbT_oDoCj7msbbjUz-7h6dcV_bkqrEW7hQr=tg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_sz4Cn40_ZMw4EP=yJCcTFeCdKzqLCuqS3ixF58sO1vA@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think that a sub-section of the Python Users group is required. :)
  Sure, a hack Omaha type thing is doable.   Presentations on
current/former Django projects is always appreciated at Python User group
meetings.   We have a getting started with Django topic around once a year
and often people will give lightning talks on their django projects.  (We
pick meeting topics by asking for presenters/ideas on the list and then a
group vote selects the favorites.)


On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Matt Payne <Payne at mattpayne.org> wrote:

> I would like to be in a special interest group (SIG) of Omaha Python that
> has a focus of Hack Omaha types of things done in Django.    I'm very
> interested in the Hack Omaha types of things.   Since Matt Wynn would like
> them done in Django, I'm up for using Django.   Also, Matt Makai made a
> great case for Django on Monday 7/1/2013.
>
> At meetups of this Hack Omaha with Python and Django we could go through
> Django tutorials.   We could also present on projects as we work on them.
>
> I'm available for lunch any day next week except 7/12/13.   Hope to meet
> with you all soon.   Thanks --Matt Payne; cell: (402) 208 8787
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Giving this a shot -- seems like maybe the listed e-mail doesn't work?
> >
> > I'm up for coffee or lunch early next week. I am downtown, so sounds like
> > we can find a workable place pretty easily.
> >
> > Let me know. Looking forward to it!
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "To go faster, slow down. Everybody who knows about orbital mechanics
> understands that."
> -- Scott Cherf as quoted at http://www.multicians.org/thvv/proverbs.html
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 19:11:00 2013
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 12:11:00 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Jeff lunch/coffee
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_sz4Cn40_ZMw4EP=yJCcTFeCdKzqLCuqS3ixF58sO1vA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFXqcUpaLAsp54EiQQHrgTNRdXQN6ePCwEEkPUTkDy_PCrKwHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOQmnQHAvEi6jbT_oDoCj7msbbjUz-7h6dcV_bkqrEW7hQr=tg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO_sz4Cn40_ZMw4EP=yJCcTFeCdKzqLCuqS3ixF58sO1vA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzg9+ypyAKK6xKdRQBNym=v6rTt-1J4DNv5XqqQcADMQeQ@mail.gmail.com>

+1 to Jeff's comments, UNLESS you mean you want to have this group meet
more regularly, try to get a handful of interested, motivated parties... I
am interested either way.
On Jul 5, 2013 11:44 AM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:

> I don't think that a sub-section of the Python Users group is required. :)
>   Sure, a hack Omaha type thing is doable.   Presentations on
> current/former Django projects is always appreciated at Python User group
> meetings.   We have a getting started with Django topic around once a year
> and often people will give lightning talks on their django projects.  (We
> pick meeting topics by asking for presenters/ideas on the list and then a
> group vote selects the favorites.)
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Matt Payne <Payne at mattpayne.org> wrote:
>
> > I would like to be in a special interest group (SIG) of Omaha Python that
> > has a focus of Hack Omaha types of things done in Django.    I'm very
> > interested in the Hack Omaha types of things.   Since Matt Wynn would
> like
> > them done in Django, I'm up for using Django.   Also, Matt Makai made a
> > great case for Django on Monday 7/1/2013.
> >
> > At meetups of this Hack Omaha with Python and Django we could go through
> > Django tutorials.   We could also present on projects as we work on them.
> >
> > I'm available for lunch any day next week except 7/12/13.   Hope to meet
> > with you all soon.   Thanks --Matt Payne; cell: (402) 208 8787
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Giving this a shot -- seems like maybe the listed e-mail doesn't work?
> > >
> > > I'm up for coffee or lunch early next week. I am downtown, so sounds
> like
> > > we can find a workable place pretty easily.
> > >
> > > Let me know. Looking forward to it!
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "To go faster, slow down. Everybody who knows about orbital mechanics
> > understands that."
> > -- Scott Cherf as quoted at http://www.multicians.org/thvv/proverbs.html
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at delasco.com  Fri Jul  5 21:00:02 2013
From: jeffh at delasco.com (Jeff Hinrichs)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 14:00:02 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Jeff lunch/coffee
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzg9+ypyAKK6xKdRQBNym=v6rTt-1J4DNv5XqqQcADMQeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFXqcUpaLAsp54EiQQHrgTNRdXQN6ePCwEEkPUTkDy_PCrKwHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOQmnQHAvEi6jbT_oDoCj7msbbjUz-7h6dcV_bkqrEW7hQr=tg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO_sz4Cn40_ZMw4EP=yJCcTFeCdKzqLCuqS3ixF58sO1vA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFGSzzg9+ypyAKK6xKdRQBNym=v6rTt-1J4DNv5XqqQcADMQeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHoq1-r5wEUxnVtiurPz1ROrEn-kYfW8v6UQAuTCbpejnPz4Bg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, if the group wants to have a more Django bent to it, that is fine with
me.  Python is going to be there front and center.  You will get more out
of django faster the better you know python.  I'd have absolutely no
problem if members/potential members want to see at least 1 Django talk at
each meeting.   Although, if every other month, new members want to go over
introductory Django stuff it would get old for the group in general.  So
maybe we pick a day and do an intro to/ your first Django site 3 hour
meeting.  It would actually be 4 hours with help, because the first hour
would just be getting attendees ready (install python/django and maybe
mercurial to pick up templates from a repo so that at each chapter the
students go pull the proper rev and be on an even keel with the rest of the
class).

We are going to need materials, a coordinator, a lead and some assistants
to pull this off.

Best,

Jeff

-Jeff


On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> +1 to Jeff's comments, UNLESS you mean you want to have this group meet
> more regularly, try to get a handful of interested, motivated parties... I
> am interested either way.
> On Jul 5, 2013 11:44 AM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I don't think that a sub-section of the Python Users group is required.
> :)
> >   Sure, a hack Omaha type thing is doable.   Presentations on
> > current/former Django projects is always appreciated at Python User group
> > meetings.   We have a getting started with Django topic around once a
> year
> > and often people will give lightning talks on their django projects.  (We
> > pick meeting topics by asking for presenters/ideas on the list and then a
> > group vote selects the favorites.)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Matt Payne <Payne at mattpayne.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to be in a special interest group (SIG) of Omaha Python
> that
> > > has a focus of Hack Omaha types of things done in Django.    I'm very
> > > interested in the Hack Omaha types of things.   Since Matt Wynn would
> > like
> > > them done in Django, I'm up for using Django.   Also, Matt Makai made a
> > > great case for Django on Monday 7/1/2013.
> > >
> > > At meetups of this Hack Omaha with Python and Django we could go
> through
> > > Django tutorials.   We could also present on projects as we work on
> them.
> > >
> > > I'm available for lunch any day next week except 7/12/13.   Hope to
> meet
> > > with you all soon.   Thanks --Matt Payne; cell: (402) 208 8787
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Giving this a shot -- seems like maybe the listed e-mail doesn't
> work?
> > > >
> > > > I'm up for coffee or lunch early next week. I am downtown, so sounds
> > like
> > > > we can find a workable place pretty easily.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know. Looking forward to it!
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "To go faster, slow down. Everybody who knows about orbital mechanics
> > > understands that."
> > > -- Scott Cherf as quoted at
> http://www.multicians.org/thvv/proverbs.html
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From Payne at MattPayne.org  Fri Jul  5 21:06:42 2013
From: Payne at MattPayne.org (Matt Payne)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 14:06:42 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Jeff lunch/coffee
In-Reply-To: <CAHoq1-r5wEUxnVtiurPz1ROrEn-kYfW8v6UQAuTCbpejnPz4Bg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFXqcUpaLAsp54EiQQHrgTNRdXQN6ePCwEEkPUTkDy_PCrKwHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOQmnQHAvEi6jbT_oDoCj7msbbjUz-7h6dcV_bkqrEW7hQr=tg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO_sz4Cn40_ZMw4EP=yJCcTFeCdKzqLCuqS3ixF58sO1vA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFGSzzg9+ypyAKK6xKdRQBNym=v6rTt-1J4DNv5XqqQcADMQeQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHoq1-r5wEUxnVtiurPz1ROrEn-kYfW8v6UQAuTCbpejnPz4Bg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOQmnQHKP0s4HefPU+WkrnR2PgVLkgtn8DwpriNpGpTSw41H=A@mail.gmail.com>

I'm just learning Django.   Hopefully I'll get my first app running on
heroku.com and report back really soon.   As I learn I'd be happy to pair
with people to show them what I know.   Either in a coffee shop for folks
new to the group or at a meeting.

Thanks --Matt Payne; cell: (402) 208 8787


On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com> wrote:

> Hey, if the group wants to have a more Django bent to it, that is fine with
> me.  Python is going to be there front and center.  You will get more out
> of django faster the better you know python.  I'd have absolutely no
> problem if members/potential members want to see at least 1 Django talk at
> each meeting.   Although, if every other month, new members want to go over
> introductory Django stuff it would get old for the group in general.  So
> maybe we pick a day and do an intro to/ your first Django site 3 hour
> meeting.  It would actually be 4 hours with help, because the first hour
> would just be getting attendees ready (install python/django and maybe
> mercurial to pick up templates from a repo so that at each chapter the
> students go pull the proper rev and be on an even keel with the rest of the
> class).
>
> We are going to need materials, a coordinator, a lead and some assistants
> to pull this off.
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff
>
> -Jeff
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > +1 to Jeff's comments, UNLESS you mean you want to have this group meet
> > more regularly, try to get a handful of interested, motivated parties...
> I
> > am interested either way.
> > On Jul 5, 2013 11:44 AM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think that a sub-section of the Python Users group is required.
> > :)
> > >   Sure, a hack Omaha type thing is doable.   Presentations on
> > > current/former Django projects is always appreciated at Python User
> group
> > > meetings.   We have a getting started with Django topic around once a
> > year
> > > and often people will give lightning talks on their django projects.
>  (We
> > > pick meeting topics by asking for presenters/ideas on the list and
> then a
> > > group vote selects the favorites.)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Matt Payne <Payne at mattpayne.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would like to be in a special interest group (SIG) of Omaha Python
> > that
> > > > has a focus of Hack Omaha types of things done in Django.    I'm very
> > > > interested in the Hack Omaha types of things.   Since Matt Wynn would
> > > like
> > > > them done in Django, I'm up for using Django.   Also, Matt Makai
> made a
> > > > great case for Django on Monday 7/1/2013.
> > > >
> > > > At meetups of this Hack Omaha with Python and Django we could go
> > through
> > > > Django tutorials.   We could also present on projects as we work on
> > them.
> > > >
> > > > I'm available for lunch any day next week except 7/12/13.   Hope to
> > meet
> > > > with you all soon.   Thanks --Matt Payne; cell: (402) 208 8787
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Giving this a shot -- seems like maybe the listed e-mail doesn't
> > work?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm up for coffee or lunch early next week. I am downtown, so
> sounds
> > > like
> > > > > we can find a workable place pretty easily.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let me know. Looking forward to it!
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "To go faster, slow down. Everybody who knows about orbital mechanics
> > > > understands that."
> > > > -- Scott Cherf as quoted at
> > http://www.multicians.org/thvv/proverbs.html
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
"To go faster, slow down. Everybody who knows about orbital mechanics
understands that."
-- Scott Cherf as quoted at http://www.multicians.org/thvv/proverbs.html

From brian at python.org  Thu Jul 11 20:12:55 2013
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 18:12:55 -0000
Subject: [omaha] PyCon 2014 Call for Proposals, New Website
Message-ID: <mailman.9.1373566376.3111.omaha@python.org>

Hi Omaha Python Users Group!

It's that time of year again! The PyCon website received a beautiful refresh and we're ready to accept proposals for the 2014 conference taking place April 9-17 in Montreal. Check out the new site at http://us.pycon.org/2014 and create your account today! Registration will open in September, so mark your calendars and get ready to head into Canada for another great PyCon.

We've received record numbers of proposals over each of the last several years, and we expect this year to be no different. For 2012 we received over 500 proposals for talks, tutorials, and posters, and for 2013 we received over 600. This community's excellent submissions have made for schedules where there is just too much good stuff to take in without cloning yourself, which is a problem we're proud to have. Thankfully you can catch up with the talks you missed at http://pyvideo.org/.

If you're interested in submitting a proposal, take a look at our Call for Proposals at http://us.pycon.org/2014/speaking/cfp/ and poke around the site for advice and resources to help you create a great proposal. New for this year are the addition of Lightning Talk proposals, from which we'll be pre-selecting some of the slots that make up the Lightning Talk sessions.


If your company is interested in sponsorship, we need you. Sponsors are what make PyCon a possibility, and sponsorship offers some great values to the generous organizations who support the conference. Check out https://us.pycon.org/2014/sponsors/whysponsor/ to find out what you get out of sponsorship, with a prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2014/sponsors/prospectus/. Contact Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any sponsorship inquiries.

Keep an eye out for news on our blog at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and follow us on twitter at https://twitter.com/pycon

Diana Clarke, Chairwoman
diana.joan.clarke at gmail.com

Brian Curtin, Publicity Coordinator
brian at python.org


From matt.wynn at gmail.com  Mon Jul 15 22:46:53 2013
From: matt.wynn at gmail.com (Matt Wynn)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:46:53 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
Message-ID: <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this discussion
on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.

The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and Hack
Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is an
annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make cool civic
projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and aim to
make that information more useful, more fun, or just more accessible.
(We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
intriguing).

If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups could fit
together:

- First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack Omaha. I
hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't always a
great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous two...
and I thought those were pretty fun).
- Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and either
move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner from
the last event: https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas.
It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website, then
indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
Perl.

If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on dataomaha.com,
where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in the app
itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
- Fun open source projects that build community
- And make local government data more useful
- And make killer entries on a resume

Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be bullshit.
We also might be missing something key.

Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're missing?
Tell us what sucks!

-Matt

From jim.drake at gmail.com  Mon Jul 15 23:23:03 2013
From: jim.drake at gmail.com (James Drake)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:23:03 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
In-Reply-To: <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK-qddObXb3gSOjULuxF_XLAkY37UMe2e6sGRhwZ+kLGeaKW+g@mail.gmail.com>

Matt,

I'd be interested in putting my meager talents to work on project, maybe
sooner rather than later. Are there any left-over that weren't attempted?
The timing for volunteering may just work and learning something new may
just work better for me. I'm more comfortable with Perl now but would be
happy to work at a slower pace in Python too.

Jim


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this discussion
> on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
>
> The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and Hack
> Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is an
> annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make cool civic
> projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and aim to
> make that information more useful, more fun, or just more accessible.
> (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
> intriguing).
>
> If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups could fit
> together:
>
> - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack Omaha. I
> hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't always a
> great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous two...
> and I thought those were pretty fun).
> - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and either
> move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner from
> the last event: https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas.
> It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website, then
> indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
> Perl.
>
> If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on dataomaha.com,
> where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in the app
> itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> - Fun open source projects that build community
> - And make local government data more useful
> - And make killer entries on a resume
>
> Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be bullshit.
> We also might be missing something key.
>
> Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're missing?
> Tell us what sucks!
>
> -Matt
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jay at jays.net  Mon Jul 15 23:27:30 2013
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
In-Reply-To: <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7FB438AD-EEDD-44AA-A42C-F37001DAE37E@jays.net>

On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> giving up a weekend to code isn't always a great attraction.

It's not? I do it a lot.   ;)

> - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and either
> move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner from
> the last event: https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas.
> It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website, then
> indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
> Perl.
> 
> If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on dataomaha.com,

Why can't / doesn't dataomaha.com "host" stuff that's already done that happens to be written in Perl? Just curious.

Thanks,

j
omacode.org





From matt.wynn at gmail.com  Tue Jul 16 16:15:32 2013
From: matt.wynn at gmail.com (Matt Wynn)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:15:32 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <mailman.45.1373968803.5681.omaha@python.org>
References: <mailman.45.1373968803.5681.omaha@python.org>
Message-ID: <CAFXqcUr_ECk405v4z8DMjSSzmQ8LQMhyoSxmHntdr+pwMa5Okg@mail.gmail.com>

Jay, you're my people!

And Jim, I think Jeff and I had talked about council agendas as a fun
project to toy with. I've heard from folks at the city, for instance, that
they'd love to have just the underlying functionality available. That way
they could create have a centralized source for finding or displaying
zoning/planning/liquor/whatever issues. to separate the business logic of
that project from the site itself would have value -- I'd host it in a
heartbeat.




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> Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this discussion
> on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
>
> The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and Hack
> Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is an
> annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make cool civic
> projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and aim to
> make that information more useful, more fun, or just more accessible.
> (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
> intriguing).
>
> If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups could fit
> together:
>
> - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack Omaha. I
> hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't always a
> great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous two...
> and I thought those were pretty fun).
> - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and either
> move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner from
> the last event: https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas.
> It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website, then
> indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
> Perl.
>
> If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on dataomaha.com,
> where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in the app
> itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> - Fun open source projects that build community
> - And make local government data more useful
> - And make killer entries on a resume
>
> Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be bullshit.
> We also might be missing something key.
>
> Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're missing?
> Tell us what sucks!
>
> -Matt
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:23:03 -0500
> From: James Drake <jim.drake at gmail.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAK-qddObXb3gSOjULuxF_XLAkY37UMe2e6sGRhwZ+kLGeaKW+g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Matt,
>
> I'd be interested in putting my meager talents to work on project, maybe
> sooner rather than later. Are there any left-over that weren't attempted?
> The timing for volunteering may just work and learning something new may
> just work better for me. I'm more comfortable with Perl now but would be
> happy to work at a slower pace in Python too.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> discussion
> > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> >
> > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and Hack
> > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is an
> > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make cool
> civic
> > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and aim
> to
> > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more accessible.
> > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
> > intriguing).
> >
> > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups could
> fit
> > together:
> >
> > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack Omaha. I
> > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't always a
> > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous
> two...
> > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and either
> > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner
> from
> > the last event: https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> .
> > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
> then
> > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
> > Perl.
> >
> > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> dataomaha.com,
> > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in the app
> > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > - And make local government data more useful
> > - And make killer entries on a resume
> >
> > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
> bullshit.
> > We also might be missing something key.
> >
> > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're missing?
> > Tell us what sucks!
> >
> > -Matt
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0500
> From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> Message-ID: <7FB438AD-EEDD-44AA-A42C-F37001DAE37E at jays.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > giving up a weekend to code isn't always a great attraction.
>
> It's not? I do it a lot.   ;)
>
> > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and either
> > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner
> from
> > the last event: https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> .
> > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
> then
> > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
> > Perl.
> >
> > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> dataomaha.com,
>
> Why can't / doesn't dataomaha.com "host" stuff that's already done that
> happens to be written in Perl? Just curious.
>
> Thanks,
>
> j
> omacode.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
> ************************************
>

From wes.turner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 08:07:53 2013
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 01:07:53 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <CAFXqcUr_ECk405v4z8DMjSSzmQ8LQMhyoSxmHntdr+pwMa5Okg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.45.1373968803.5681.omaha@python.org>
	<CAFXqcUr_ECk405v4z8DMjSSzmQ8LQMhyoSxmHntdr+pwMa5Okg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfEFw8o9sapTZz7NGa38kWZ2BDW21otO_bVh3x=4LnkX7R0UA@mail.gmail.com>

So the data/publishing process would be something like:

    Template -> Text Processor -> PDF -> SQL/search -> Template -> HTML

?

I definitely see the value in getting past agenda PDFs indexed and
searchable, but wouldn't it make more sense to just save as HTML? (Or .RST
:o)

    Template -> Text Processor -> HTML (-> ___ custom search)

That way, we could read these documents on a device with a smaller screen.
And permalink to headers. And adjust font sizes. And search.

.. see also: http://redd.it/140oxj
On Jul 16, 2013 9:15 AM, "Matt Wynn" <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jay, you're my people!
>
> And Jim, I think Jeff and I had talked about council agendas as a fun
> project to toy with. I've heard from folks at the city, for instance, that
> they'd love to have just the underlying functionality available. That way
> they could create have a centralized source for finding or displaying
> zoning/planning/liquor/whatever issues. to separate the business logic of
> that project from the site itself would have value -- I'd host it in a
> heartbeat.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:00 AM, <omaha-request at python.org> wrote:
>
> > Send Omaha mailing list submissions to
> >         omaha at python.org
> >
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >         http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >         omaha-request at python.org
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> >         omaha-owner at python.org
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of Omaha digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Matt Wynn)
> >    2. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (James Drake)
> >    3. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Jay Hannah)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:46:53 -0500
> > From: Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > To: omaha at python.org
> > Subject: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=
> > iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> discussion
> > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> >
> > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and Hack
> > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is an
> > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make cool
> civic
> > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and aim
> to
> > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more accessible.
> > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
> > intriguing).
> >
> > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups could
> fit
> > together:
> >
> > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack Omaha. I
> > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't always a
> > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous
> two...
> > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and either
> > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner
> from
> > the last event: https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> .
> > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
> then
> > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
> > Perl.
> >
> > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> dataomaha.com,
> > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in the app
> > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > - And make local government data more useful
> > - And make killer entries on a resume
> >
> > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
> bullshit.
> > We also might be missing something key.
> >
> > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're missing?
> > Tell us what sucks!
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:23:03 -0500
> > From: James Drake <jim.drake at gmail.com>
> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAK-qddObXb3gSOjULuxF_XLAkY37UMe2e6sGRhwZ+kLGeaKW+g at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > I'd be interested in putting my meager talents to work on project, maybe
> > sooner rather than later. Are there any left-over that weren't attempted?
> > The timing for volunteering may just work and learning something new may
> > just work better for me. I'm more comfortable with Perl now but would be
> > happy to work at a slower pace in Python too.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> > discussion
> > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > >
> > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and
> Hack
> > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is an
> > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make cool
> > civic
> > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and aim
> > to
> > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more accessible.
> > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
> > > intriguing).
> > >
> > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups could
> > fit
> > > together:
> > >
> > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack Omaha. I
> > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't always
> a
> > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous
> > two...
> > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> either
> > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner
> > from
> > > the last event:
> https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > .
> > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
> > then
> > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
> > > Perl.
> > >
> > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > dataomaha.com,
> > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in the
> app
> > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > >
> > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
> > bullshit.
> > > We also might be missing something key.
> > >
> > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're missing?
> > > Tell us what sucks!
> > >
> > > -Matt
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0500
> > From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > Message-ID: <7FB438AD-EEDD-44AA-A42C-F37001DAE37E at jays.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > giving up a weekend to code isn't always a great attraction.
> >
> > It's not? I do it a lot.   ;)
> >
> > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> either
> > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner
> > from
> > > the last event:
> https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > .
> > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
> > then
> > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
> > > Perl.
> > >
> > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > dataomaha.com,
> >
> > Why can't / doesn't dataomaha.com "host" stuff that's already done that
> > happens to be written in Perl? Just curious.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > j
> > omacode.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Digest Footer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
> > ************************************
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From wes.turner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 08:40:10 2013
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 01:40:10 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <CACfEFw8o9sapTZz7NGa38kWZ2BDW21otO_bVh3x=4LnkX7R0UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.45.1373968803.5681.omaha@python.org>
	<CAFXqcUr_ECk405v4z8DMjSSzmQ8LQMhyoSxmHntdr+pwMa5Okg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACfEFw8o9sapTZz7NGa38kWZ2BDW21otO_bVh3x=4LnkX7R0UA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfEFw_9WTjFKktSFhYz_Ch_P+251nioE6=dFuySsBw7oG1mzA@mail.gmail.com>

If we could add schema.org microdata markup [1][2][3] to the HTML
pages, search engines could generate better search listings for these
documents.

[1] http://schema.org/docs/full.html
[2] http://schema.org/docs/documents.html
[3] http://schema.rdfs.org

For the record, a query like the following will search the city
council agendas; but there's not a way to sort by date.

    site:www.cityofomaha.org/cityclerk/images/stories/agenda <search terms>


--
Wes Turner


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:
> So the data/publishing process would be something like:
>
>     Template -> Text Processor -> PDF -> SQL/search -> Template -> HTML
>
> ?
>
> I definitely see the value in getting past agenda PDFs indexed and
> searchable, but wouldn't it make more sense to just save as HTML? (Or .RST
> :o)
>
>     Template -> Text Processor -> HTML (-> ___ custom search)
>
> That way, we could read these documents on a device with a smaller screen.
> And permalink to headers. And adjust font sizes. And search.
>
> .. see also: http://redd.it/140oxj
>
> On Jul 16, 2013 9:15 AM, "Matt Wynn" <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jay, you're my people!
>>
>> And Jim, I think Jeff and I had talked about council agendas as a fun
>> project to toy with. I've heard from folks at the city, for instance, that
>> they'd love to have just the underlying functionality available. That way
>> they could create have a centralized source for finding or displaying
>> zoning/planning/liquor/whatever issues. to separate the business logic of
>> that project from the site itself would have value -- I'd host it in a
>> heartbeat.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:00 AM, <omaha-request at python.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Send Omaha mailing list submissions to
>> >         omaha at python.org
>> >
>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> >         http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> >         omaha-request at python.org
>> >
>> > You can reach the person managing the list at
>> >         omaha-owner at python.org
>> >
>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> > than "Re: Contents of Omaha digest..."
>> >
>> >
>> > Today's Topics:
>> >
>> >    1. Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Matt Wynn)
>> >    2. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (James Drake)
>> >    3. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Jay Hannah)
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:46:53 -0500
>> > From: Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
>> > To: omaha at python.org
>> > Subject: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
>> > Message-ID:
>> >         <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=
>> > iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >
>> > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
>> > discussion
>> > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
>> >
>> > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and
>> > Hack
>> > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is an
>> > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make cool
>> > civic
>> > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and aim
>> > to
>> > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more accessible.
>> > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
>> > intriguing).
>> >
>> > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups could
>> > fit
>> > together:
>> >
>> > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack Omaha. I
>> > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't always a
>> > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous
>> > two...
>> > and I thought those were pretty fun).
>> > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and either
>> > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner
>> > from
>> > the last event:
>> > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas.
>> > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
>> > then
>> > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
>> > Perl.
>> >
>> > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
>> > dataomaha.com,
>> > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in the
>> > app
>> > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
>> > - Fun open source projects that build community
>> > - And make local government data more useful
>> > - And make killer entries on a resume
>> >
>> > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
>> > bullshit.
>> > We also might be missing something key.
>> >
>> > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're missing?
>> > Tell us what sucks!
>> >
>> > -Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:23:03 -0500
>> > From: James Drake <jim.drake at gmail.com>
>> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
>> > Message-ID:
>> >         <
>> > CAK-qddObXb3gSOjULuxF_XLAkY37UMe2e6sGRhwZ+kLGeaKW+g at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> >
>> > Matt,
>> >
>> > I'd be interested in putting my meager talents to work on project, maybe
>> > sooner rather than later. Are there any left-over that weren't
>> > attempted?
>> > The timing for volunteering may just work and learning something new may
>> > just work better for me. I'm more comfortable with Perl now but would be
>> > happy to work at a slower pace in Python too.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
>> > discussion
>> > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
>> > >
>> > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and
>> > > Hack
>> > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is an
>> > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make cool
>> > civic
>> > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and
>> > > aim
>> > to
>> > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more accessible.
>> > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
>> > > intriguing).
>> > >
>> > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups could
>> > fit
>> > > together:
>> > >
>> > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack Omaha.
>> > > I
>> > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't always
>> > > a
>> > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous
>> > two...
>> > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
>> > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
>> > > either
>> > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner
>> > from
>> > > the last event:
>> > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
>> > .
>> > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
>> > then
>> > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also
>> > > in
>> > > Perl.
>> > >
>> > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
>> > dataomaha.com,
>> > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in the
>> > > app
>> > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
>> > > - Fun open source projects that build community
>> > > - And make local government data more useful
>> > > - And make killer entries on a resume
>> > >
>> > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
>> > bullshit.
>> > > We also might be missing something key.
>> > >
>> > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're
>> > > missing?
>> > > Tell us what sucks!
>> > >
>> > > -Matt
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > Omaha at python.org
>> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0500
>> > From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
>> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
>> > Message-ID: <7FB438AD-EEDD-44AA-A42C-F37001DAE37E at jays.net>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> >
>> > On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > giving up a weekend to code isn't always a great attraction.
>> >
>> > It's not? I do it a lot.   ;)
>> >
>> > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
>> > > either
>> > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner
>> > from
>> > > the last event:
>> > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
>> > .
>> > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
>> > then
>> > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also
>> > > in
>> > > Perl.
>> > >
>> > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
>> > dataomaha.com,
>> >
>> > Why can't / doesn't dataomaha.com "host" stuff that's already done that
>> > happens to be written in Perl? Just curious.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > j
>> > omacode.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Subject: Digest Footer
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Omaha mailing list
>> > Omaha at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> >
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>> > ------------------------------
>> >
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>> > ************************************
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From mike at squarepegsystems.com  Wed Jul 17 16:00:43 2013
From: mike at squarepegsystems.com (Mike Hostetler)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:00:43 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <CACfEFw8o9sapTZz7NGa38kWZ2BDW21otO_bVh3x=4LnkX7R0UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.45.1373968803.5681.omaha@python.org>
	<CAFXqcUr_ECk405v4z8DMjSSzmQ8LQMhyoSxmHntdr+pwMa5Okg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACfEFw8o9sapTZz7NGa38kWZ2BDW21otO_bVh3x=4LnkX7R0UA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE1_9RU4ekw+yovimhT=ckmRkq7YeFFN=7Y769AeimveGn8oUw@mail.gmail.com>

PDF conversion to anything is hard. Turning it into anything structured
like HTML or any markup language would be fraught with peril. If you are
lucky, you can dump them to straight, plain text. If you can do that, leave
it alone.

Matt Steele came to me for advice on how to parse the PDFs (I had tweeted
that I was doing it at work so he contacted me off-line) and what they used
matches fairly closely with what I do. The kicker is that sometimes people
simply scan a page and save that image in a PDF. It looks like text, but
it's actually an image. So you can't use normal PDF Parsing tools with
that. The best you can do it extract each image, and run an OCR tool on
them (which is what tesseract is).

Throwing the result into ElasticSearch is certainly the best option -- it's
magical on how well it works. Just pump the text files into an ES server
via it's REST interface and, volia, you can google your documents.

http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/




On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:

> So the data/publishing process would be something like:
>
>     Template -> Text Processor -> PDF -> SQL/search -> Template -> HTML
>
> ?
>
> I definitely see the value in getting past agenda PDFs indexed and
> searchable, but wouldn't it make more sense to just save as HTML? (Or .RST
> :o)
>
>     Template -> Text Processor -> HTML (-> ___ custom search)
>
> That way, we could read these documents on a device with a smaller screen.
> And permalink to headers. And adjust font sizes. And search.
>
> .. see also: http://redd.it/140oxj
> On Jul 16, 2013 9:15 AM, "Matt Wynn" <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jay, you're my people!
> >
> > And Jim, I think Jeff and I had talked about council agendas as a fun
> > project to toy with. I've heard from folks at the city, for instance,
> that
> > they'd love to have just the underlying functionality available. That way
> > they could create have a centralized source for finding or displaying
> > zoning/planning/liquor/whatever issues. to separate the business logic of
> > that project from the site itself would have value -- I'd host it in a
> > heartbeat.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:00 AM, <omaha-request at python.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Send Omaha mailing list submissions to
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> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > >    1. Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Matt Wynn)
> > >    2. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (James Drake)
> > >    3. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Jay Hannah)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:46:53 -0500
> > > From: Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > > To: omaha at python.org
> > > Subject: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=
> > > iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> > discussion
> > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > >
> > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and
> Hack
> > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is an
> > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make cool
> > civic
> > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and aim
> > to
> > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more accessible.
> > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
> > > intriguing).
> > >
> > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups could
> > fit
> > > together:
> > >
> > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack Omaha. I
> > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't always
> a
> > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous
> > two...
> > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> either
> > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the winner
> > from
> > > the last event:
> https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > .
> > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
> > then
> > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also in
> > > Perl.
> > >
> > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > dataomaha.com,
> > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in the
> app
> > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > >
> > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
> > bullshit.
> > > We also might be missing something key.
> > >
> > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're missing?
> > > Tell us what sucks!
> > >
> > > -Matt
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:23:03 -0500
> > > From: James Drake <jim.drake at gmail.com>
> > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <
> > > CAK-qddObXb3gSOjULuxF_XLAkY37UMe2e6sGRhwZ+kLGeaKW+g at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I'd be interested in putting my meager talents to work on project,
> maybe
> > > sooner rather than later. Are there any left-over that weren't
> attempted?
> > > The timing for volunteering may just work and learning something new
> may
> > > just work better for me. I'm more comfortable with Perl now but would
> be
> > > happy to work at a slower pace in Python too.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> > > discussion
> > > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > > >
> > > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and
> > Hack
> > > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is
> an
> > > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make cool
> > > civic
> > > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and
> aim
> > > to
> > > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more accessible.
> > > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
> > > > intriguing).
> > > >
> > > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups
> could
> > > fit
> > > > together:
> > > >
> > > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack
> Omaha. I
> > > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't
> always
> > a
> > > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous
> > > two...
> > > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> > either
> > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> winner
> > > from
> > > > the last event:
> > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > .
> > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
> > > then
> > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also
> in
> > > > Perl.
> > > >
> > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in the
> > app
> > > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > > >
> > > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
> > > bullshit.
> > > > We also might be missing something key.
> > > >
> > > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're
> missing?
> > > > Tell us what sucks!
> > > >
> > > > -Matt
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0500
> > > From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > Message-ID: <7FB438AD-EEDD-44AA-A42C-F37001DAE37E at jays.net>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > giving up a weekend to code isn't always a great attraction.
> > >
> > > It's not? I do it a lot.   ;)
> > >
> > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> > either
> > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> winner
> > > from
> > > > the last event:
> > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > .
> > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's website,
> > > then
> > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's also
> in
> > > > Perl.
> > > >
> > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > dataomaha.com,
> > >
> > > Why can't / doesn't dataomaha.com "host" stuff that's already done
> that
> > > happens to be written in Perl? Just curious.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > j
> > > omacode.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Subject: Digest Footer
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > End of Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
> > > ************************************
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
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> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Mike Hostetler
SquarePeg Systems
http://www.squarepegsystems.com

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Jul 17 16:53:05 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:53:05 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting Location
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8+D5fEMXtNuDvq_kwuF6sovVKY2d3RCcNBYtmYnmsBRw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello List,

Thanks to an introduction from Matt Wynn, I've made contact with a
professor at Creighton who has offered to get us space to meet on campus.
 The whole ball of wax -- room, tables, projector, parking, etc.

I think it would be a good thing to take her up on the offer but I would
like to get feedback from the group on the new venue.  If you are generally
favorable to the new meeting location idea go ahead and +1 the list.  If
you are less than enthusiastic about it, please let the group or me know in
more detail.


I look forward to your responses.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From matt.g.payne at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 17:04:16 2013
From: matt.g.payne at gmail.com (Matt Payne)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:04:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [omaha] Meeting Location
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8+D5fEMXtNuDvq_kwuF6sovVKY2d3RCcNBYtmYnmsBRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+D5fEMXtNuDvq_kwuF6sovVKY2d3RCcNBYtmYnmsBRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1374073455487.41322283@Nodemailer>

+1 for Creighton?


TechOmaha.com says there is a meeting tonight. ? I can't make tonight's meeting. ??


I do plan to come to meetings (except today).


Thanks --Matt Payne
?
Matt Payne; cell: (402) 208-8787
Sent from Mailbox for iPhone

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
wrote:

> Hello List,
> Thanks to an introduction from Matt Wynn, I've made contact with a
> professor at Creighton who has offered to get us space to meet on campus.
>  The whole ball of wax -- room, tables, projector, parking, etc.
> I think it would be a good thing to take her up on the offer but I would
> like to get feedback from the group on the new venue.  If you are generally
> favorable to the new meeting location idea go ahead and +1 the list.  If
> you are less than enthusiastic about it, please let the group or me know in
> more detail.
> I look forward to your responses.
> -- 
> Best,
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From choman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 17:06:47 2013
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:06:47 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting Location
In-Reply-To: <1374073455487.41322283@Nodemailer>
References: <CALHZEO8+D5fEMXtNuDvq_kwuF6sovVKY2d3RCcNBYtmYnmsBRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1374073455487.41322283@Nodemailer>
Message-ID: <CA+Xrk5h1sDFxk2-BTLLdFa8EX3P9DeyCKh2rU7tdzmPjghMnXg@mail.gmail.com>

I'll +1 it.  hopefully I can start freeing up some time to attend again

Together We Win!
--
Chad - I AM MONAVIE
Do You Know Your Life Score? <http://choman.mymonavie.com>
Creating A More Meaningful Life

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
Windows."
Now they have two problems.


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Matt Payne <matt.g.payne at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 for Creighton
>
>
> TechOmaha.com says there is a meeting tonight.   I can't make tonight's
> meeting.
>
>
> I do plan to come to meetings (except today).
>
>
> Thanks --Matt Payne
> ?
> Matt Payne; cell: (402) 208-8787
> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello List,
> > Thanks to an introduction from Matt Wynn, I've made contact with a
> > professor at Creighton who has offered to get us space to meet on campus.
> >  The whole ball of wax -- room, tables, projector, parking, etc.
> > I think it would be a good thing to take her up on the offer but I would
> > like to get feedback from the group on the new venue.  If you are
> generally
> > favorable to the new meeting location idea go ahead and +1 the list.  If
> > you are less than enthusiastic about it, please let the group or me know
> in
> > more detail.
> > I look forward to your responses.
> > --
> > Best,
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From rob.townley at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 17:37:42 2013
From: rob.townley at gmail.com (Rob Townley)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:37:42 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting Location
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8+D5fEMXtNuDvq_kwuF6sovVKY2d3RCcNBYtmYnmsBRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+D5fEMXtNuDvq_kwuF6sovVKY2d3RCcNBYtmYnmsBRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+VdTb-U=21EDeo=osa1Sp31v3-YFg0r5Ue_W1NDOUT0sLB4eQ@mail.gmail.com>

+1


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Hello List,
>
> Thanks to an introduction from Matt Wynn, I've made contact with a
> professor at Creighton who has offered to get us space to meet on campus.
>  The whole ball of wax -- room, tables, projector, parking, etc.
>
> I think it would be a good thing to take her up on the offer but I would
> like to get feedback from the group on the new venue.  If you are generally
> favorable to the new meeting location idea go ahead and +1 the list.  If
> you are less than enthusiastic about it, please let the group or me know in
> more detail.
>
>
> I look forward to your responses.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jaybocc2 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 18:03:51 2013
From: jaybocc2 at gmail.com (Jay Bendon)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:03:51 -0700
Subject: [omaha] Meeting Location
In-Reply-To: <CA+VdTb-U=21EDeo=osa1Sp31v3-YFg0r5Ue_W1NDOUT0sLB4eQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+D5fEMXtNuDvq_kwuF6sovVKY2d3RCcNBYtmYnmsBRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+VdTb-U=21EDeo=osa1Sp31v3-YFg0r5Ue_W1NDOUT0sLB4eQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO630UmjTUeMmB0iWra7kES7Lc6st1iKu5R=bqcBQgE8Y27_Pg@mail.gmail.com>

+1

--Jay

Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity, typos and spelling.
On Jul 17, 2013 10:38 AM, "Rob Townley" <rob.townley at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hello List,
> >
> > Thanks to an introduction from Matt Wynn, I've made contact with a
> > professor at Creighton who has offered to get us space to meet on campus.
> >  The whole ball of wax -- room, tables, projector, parking, etc.
> >
> > I think it would be a good thing to take her up on the offer but I would
> > like to get feedback from the group on the new venue.  If you are
> generally
> > favorable to the new meeting location idea go ahead and +1 the list.  If
> > you are less than enthusiastic about it, please let the group or me know
> in
> > more detail.
> >
> >
> > I look forward to your responses.
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From wes.turner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 18:44:31 2013
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:44:31 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <CAE1_9RU4ekw+yovimhT=ckmRkq7YeFFN=7Y769AeimveGn8oUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.45.1373968803.5681.omaha@python.org>
	<CAFXqcUr_ECk405v4z8DMjSSzmQ8LQMhyoSxmHntdr+pwMa5Okg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACfEFw8o9sapTZz7NGa38kWZ2BDW21otO_bVh3x=4LnkX7R0UA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE1_9RU4ekw+yovimhT=ckmRkq7YeFFN=7Y769AeimveGn8oUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfEFw__Qf0Ebb4J8oT34dPWUhq7zjFV+h=7232Oqb9x7DQJsA@mail.gmail.com>

I remember reading about what the major search engines use for PDF-to-HTML
and OCR for bitmap PDFs but can't find the link. Many of the desktop search
programs do have some sort of PDF support.

On Jul 17, 2013 9:00 AM, "Mike Hostetler" <mike at squarepegsystems.com> wrote:
>
> PDF conversion to anything is hard. Turning it into anything structured
> like HTML or any markup language would be fraught with peril. If you are
> lucky, you can dump them to straight, plain text. If you can do that,
leave
> it alone.
>
> Matt Steele came to me for advice on how to parse the PDFs (I had tweeted
> that I was doing it at work so he contacted me off-line) and what they
used
> matches fairly closely with what I do. The kicker is that sometimes people
> simply scan a page and save that image in a PDF. It looks like text, but
> it's actually an image. So you can't use normal PDF Parsing tools with
> that. The best you can do it extract each image, and run an OCR tool on
> them (which is what tesseract is).
>
> Throwing the result into ElasticSearch is certainly the best option --
it's
> magical on how well it works. Just pump the text files into an ES server
> via it's REST interface and, volia, you can google your documents.
>
> http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/
>

Faceted query support like that provided by ElasticSearch (Lucene) would be
helpful.

I was just looking into a Kibana3 query dashboard for ElasticSearch (for
Heka). I am somewhat familiar with PyES, but Kibana3 is all JavaScript
(like the Deniz SPARQL browser).

Not sure how/whether Kibana3 supports any sort of throttling. (E.g. how
resilient is an un-reverse-proxied ES?)

* https://tika.apache.org/1.4/formats.html#Portable_Document_Format

*
https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch-mapper-attachments/blob/master/README.md

While convenient for archiving, most PDF serializations of editor document
trees end up mixing way too much presentation with the content.

The PDF.js HTML5 PDF viewer is also great.

>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So the data/publishing process would be something like:
> >
> >     Template -> Text Processor -> PDF -> SQL/search -> Template -> HTML
> >
> > ?
> >
> > I definitely see the value in getting past agenda PDFs indexed and
> > searchable, but wouldn't it make more sense to just save as HTML? (Or
.RST
> > :o)
> >
> >     Template -> Text Processor -> HTML (-> ___ custom search)
> >
> > That way, we could read these documents on a device with a smaller
screen.
> > And permalink to headers. And adjust font sizes. And search.
> >
> > .. see also: http://redd.it/140oxj
> > On Jul 16, 2013 9:15 AM, "Matt Wynn" <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Jay, you're my people!
> > >
> > > And Jim, I think Jeff and I had talked about council agendas as a fun
> > > project to toy with. I've heard from folks at the city, for instance,
> > that
> > > they'd love to have just the underlying functionality available. That
way
> > > they could create have a centralized source for finding or displaying
> > > zoning/planning/liquor/whatever issues. to separate the business
logic of
> > > that project from the site itself would have value -- I'd host it in a
> > > heartbeat.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:00 AM, <omaha-request at python.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Send Omaha mailing list submissions to
> > > >         omaha at python.org
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> > > >
> > > > Today's Topics:
> > > >
> > > >    1. Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Matt Wynn)
> > > >    2. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (James Drake)
> > > >    3. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Jay Hannah)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:46:53 -0500
> > > > From: Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > > > To: omaha at python.org
> > > > Subject: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > >         <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=
> > > > iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg at mail.gmail.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> > > discussion
> > > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > > >
> > > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python and
> > Hack
> > > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha is
an
> > > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make
cool
> > > civic
> > > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information, and
aim
> > > to
> > > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more
accessible.
> > > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
> > > > intriguing).
> > > >
> > > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups
could
> > > fit
> > > > together:
> > > >
> > > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack
Omaha. I
> > > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't
always
> > a
> > > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous
> > > two...
> > > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> > either
> > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
winner
> > > from
> > > > the last event:
> > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > .
> > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
website,
> > > then
> > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's
also in
> > > > Perl.
> > > >
> > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in
the
> > app
> > > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > > >
> > > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
> > > bullshit.
> > > > We also might be missing something key.
> > > >
> > > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're
missing?
> > > > Tell us what sucks!
> > > >
> > > > -Matt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 2
> > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:23:03 -0500
> > > > From: James Drake <jim.drake at gmail.com>
> > > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > >         <
> > > > CAK-qddObXb3gSOjULuxF_XLAkY37UMe2e6sGRhwZ+kLGeaKW+g at mail.gmail.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > >
> > > > Matt,
> > > >
> > > > I'd be interested in putting my meager talents to work on project,
> > maybe
> > > > sooner rather than later. Are there any left-over that weren't
> > attempted?
> > > > The timing for volunteering may just work and learning something new
> > may
> > > > just work better for me. I'm more comfortable with Perl now but
would
> > be
> > > > happy to work at a slower pace in Python too.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> > > > discussion
> > > > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > > > >
> > > > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python
and
> > > Hack
> > > > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha
is
> > an
> > > > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make
cool
> > > > civic
> > > > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information,
and
> > aim
> > > > to
> > > > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more
accessible.
> > > > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
> > > > > intriguing).
> > > > >
> > > > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups
> > could
> > > > fit
> > > > > together:
> > > > >
> > > > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack
> > Omaha. I
> > > > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't
> > always
> > > a
> > > > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the
previous
> > > > two...
> > > > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> > > either
> > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> > winner
> > > > from
> > > > > the last event:
> > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > .
> > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
website,
> > > > then
> > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's
also
> > in
> > > > > Perl.
> > > > >
> > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in
the
> > > app
> > > > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
> > > > bullshit.
> > > > > We also might be missing something key.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're
> > missing?
> > > > > Tell us what sucks!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matt
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0500
> > > > From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> > > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > Message-ID: <7FB438AD-EEDD-44AA-A42C-F37001DAE37E at jays.net>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > giving up a weekend to code isn't always a great attraction.
> > > >
> > > > It's not? I do it a lot.   ;)
> > > >
> > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> > > either
> > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> > winner
> > > > from
> > > > > the last event:
> > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > .
> > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
website,
> > > > then
> > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's
also
> > in
> > > > > Perl.
> > > > >
> > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > >
> > > > Why can't / doesn't dataomaha.com "host" stuff that's already done
> > that
> > > > happens to be written in Perl? Just curious.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > j
> > > > omacode.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Digest Footer
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> > > >
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From wes.turner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 19:03:42 2013
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:03:42 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <CACfEFw__Qf0Ebb4J8oT34dPWUhq7zjFV+h=7232Oqb9x7DQJsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.45.1373968803.5681.omaha@python.org>
	<CAFXqcUr_ECk405v4z8DMjSSzmQ8LQMhyoSxmHntdr+pwMa5Okg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACfEFw8o9sapTZz7NGa38kWZ2BDW21otO_bVh3x=4LnkX7R0UA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE1_9RU4ekw+yovimhT=ckmRkq7YeFFN=7Y769AeimveGn8oUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACfEFw__Qf0Ebb4J8oT34dPWUhq7zjFV+h=7232Oqb9x7DQJsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfEFw8ZsBZbCD02QfsxqbT5u+RfuW=uA1kzTy3SfYHi_scpEw@mail.gmail.com>

Conveniently just found this IPython notebook demonstrating OCR in Python:
http://nbviewer.ipython.org/url/ocropy.ocropus.googlecode.com/hg/Notebooks/ocropus-steps.ipynb
 On Jul 17, 2013 11:44 AM, "Wes Turner" <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:

> I remember reading about what the major search engines use for PDF-to-HTML
> and OCR for bitmap PDFs but can't find the link. Many of the desktop search
> programs do have some sort of PDF support.
>
> On Jul 17, 2013 9:00 AM, "Mike Hostetler" <mike at squarepegsystems.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > PDF conversion to anything is hard. Turning it into anything structured
> > like HTML or any markup language would be fraught with peril. If you are
> > lucky, you can dump them to straight, plain text. If you can do that,
> leave
> > it alone.
> >
> > Matt Steele came to me for advice on how to parse the PDFs (I had tweeted
> > that I was doing it at work so he contacted me off-line) and what they
> used
> > matches fairly closely with what I do. The kicker is that sometimes
> people
> > simply scan a page and save that image in a PDF. It looks like text, but
> > it's actually an image. So you can't use normal PDF Parsing tools with
> > that. The best you can do it extract each image, and run an OCR tool on
> > them (which is what tesseract is).
> >
> > Throwing the result into ElasticSearch is certainly the best option --
> it's
> > magical on how well it works. Just pump the text files into an ES server
> > via it's REST interface and, volia, you can google your documents.
> >
> > http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/
> >
>
> Faceted query support like that provided by ElasticSearch (Lucene) would
> be helpful.
>
> I was just looking into a Kibana3 query dashboard for ElasticSearch (for
> Heka). I am somewhat familiar with PyES, but Kibana3 is all JavaScript
> (like the Deniz SPARQL browser).
>
> Not sure how/whether Kibana3 supports any sort of throttling. (E.g. how
> resilient is an un-reverse-proxied ES?)
>
> * https://tika.apache.org/1.4/formats.html#Portable_Document_Format
>
> *
> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch-mapper-attachments/blob/master/README.md
>
> While convenient for archiving, most PDF serializations of editor document
> trees end up mixing way too much presentation with the content.
>
> The PDF.js HTML5 PDF viewer is also great.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > So the data/publishing process would be something like:
> > >
> > >     Template -> Text Processor -> PDF -> SQL/search -> Template -> HTML
> > >
> > > ?
> > >
> > > I definitely see the value in getting past agenda PDFs indexed and
> > > searchable, but wouldn't it make more sense to just save as HTML? (Or
> .RST
> > > :o)
> > >
> > >     Template -> Text Processor -> HTML (-> ___ custom search)
> > >
> > > That way, we could read these documents on a device with a smaller
> screen.
> > > And permalink to headers. And adjust font sizes. And search.
> > >
> > > .. see also: http://redd.it/140oxj
> > > On Jul 16, 2013 9:15 AM, "Matt Wynn" <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jay, you're my people!
> > > >
> > > > And Jim, I think Jeff and I had talked about council agendas as a fun
> > > > project to toy with. I've heard from folks at the city, for instance,
> > > that
> > > > they'd love to have just the underlying functionality available.
> That way
> > > > they could create have a centralized source for finding or displaying
> > > > zoning/planning/liquor/whatever issues. to separate the business
> logic of
> > > > that project from the site itself would have value -- I'd host it in
> a
> > > > heartbeat.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:00 AM, <omaha-request at python.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Send Omaha mailing list submissions to
> > > > >         omaha at python.org
> > > > >
> > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > > > >         http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > > > >         omaha-request at python.org
> > > > >
> > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > > > >         omaha-owner at python.org
> > > > >
> > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > > > > than "Re: Contents of Omaha digest..."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Today's Topics:
> > > > >
> > > > >    1. Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Matt Wynn)
> > > > >    2. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (James Drake)
> > > > >    3. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Jay Hannah)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 1
> > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:46:53 -0500
> > > > > From: Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > > > > To: omaha at python.org
> > > > > Subject: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > >         <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=
> > > > > iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg at mail.gmail.com>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> > > > discussion
> > > > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > > > >
> > > > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python
> and
> > > Hack
> > > > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha
> is an
> > > > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make
> cool
> > > > civic
> > > > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information,
> and aim
> > > > to
> > > > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more
> accessible.
> > > > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it sounds
> > > > > intriguing).
> > > > >
> > > > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups
> could
> > > > fit
> > > > > together:
> > > > >
> > > > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack
> Omaha. I
> > > > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't
> always
> > > a
> > > > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the previous
> > > > two...
> > > > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> > > either
> > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> winner
> > > > from
> > > > > the last event:
> > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > .
> > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
> website,
> > > > then
> > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's
> also in
> > > > > Perl.
> > > > >
> > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in
> the
> > > app
> > > > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
> > > > bullshit.
> > > > > We also might be missing something key.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're
> missing?
> > > > > Tell us what sucks!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 2
> > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:23:03 -0500
> > > > > From: James Drake <jim.drake at gmail.com>
> > > > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > >         <
> > > > > CAK-qddObXb3gSOjULuxF_XLAkY37UMe2e6sGRhwZ+kLGeaKW+g at mail.gmail.com
> >
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd be interested in putting my meager talents to work on project,
> > > maybe
> > > > > sooner rather than later. Are there any left-over that weren't
> > > attempted?
> > > > > The timing for volunteering may just work and learning something
> new
> > > may
> > > > > just work better for me. I'm more comfortable with Perl now but
> would
> > > be
> > > > > happy to work at a slower pace in Python too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> > > > > discussion
> > > > > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python
> and
> > > > Hack
> > > > > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha
> is
> > > an
> > > > > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make
> cool
> > > > > civic
> > > > > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information,
> and
> > > aim
> > > > > to
> > > > > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more
> accessible.
> > > > > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it
> sounds
> > > > > > intriguing).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups
> > > could
> > > > > fit
> > > > > > together:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack
> > > Omaha. I
> > > > > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't
> > > always
> > > > a
> > > > > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the
> previous
> > > > > two...
> > > > > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> > > > either
> > > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> > > winner
> > > > > from
> > > > > > the last event:
> > > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > > .
> > > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
> website,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's
> also
> > > in
> > > > > > Perl.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands
> in the
> > > > app
> > > > > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > > > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > > > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > > > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
> > > > > bullshit.
> > > > > > We also might be missing something key.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're
> > > missing?
> > > > > > Tell us what sucks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Matt
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Message: 3
> > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0500
> > > > > From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> > > > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > > Message-ID: <7FB438AD-EEDD-44AA-A42C-F37001DAE37E at jays.net>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > giving up a weekend to code isn't always a great attraction.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not? I do it a lot.   ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> > > > either
> > > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> > > winner
> > > > > from
> > > > > > the last event:
> > > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > > .
> > > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
> website,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's
> also
> > > in
> > > > > > Perl.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > >
> > > > > Why can't / doesn't dataomaha.com "host" stuff that's already done
> > > that
> > > > > happens to be written in Perl? Just curious.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > j
> > > > > omacode.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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From jim.drake at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 19:33:28 2013
From: jim.drake at gmail.com (James Drake)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:33:28 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting Location
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8+D5fEMXtNuDvq_kwuF6sovVKY2d3RCcNBYtmYnmsBRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+D5fEMXtNuDvq_kwuF6sovVKY2d3RCcNBYtmYnmsBRw@mail.gmail.com>
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+1 for Creighton


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Hello List,
>
> Thanks to an introduction from Matt Wynn, I've made contact with a
> professor at Creighton who has offered to get us space to meet on campus.
>  The whole ball of wax -- room, tables, projector, parking, etc.
>
> I think it would be a good thing to take her up on the offer but I would
> like to get feedback from the group on the new venue.  If you are generally
> favorable to the new meeting location idea go ahead and +1 the list.  If
> you are less than enthusiastic about it, please let the group or me know in
> more detail.
>
>
> I look forward to your responses.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From dan at linder.org  Wed Jul 17 22:23:05 2013
From: dan at linder.org (Dan Linder)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:23:05 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
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References: <mailman.45.1373968803.5681.omaha@python.org>
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	<CACfEFw8ZsBZbCD02QfsxqbT5u+RfuW=uA1kzTy3SfYHi_scpEw@mail.gmail.com>
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Did I mis-read, or isn't the contents of these PDFs coming from a template
or text processing engine originally?  Why not generate the HTML and
searchable contents from there and build the PDF after the fact?  Or am I
missing the source of the data?

Dan

FWIW, If you need a command-line tool to convert a URL to PDF, check out
WKHtmlToPDF (http://code.google.com/p/wkhtmltopdf/).  It has binaries for
Linux, OSX, and Windows.


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Conveniently just found this IPython notebook demonstrating OCR in Python:
>
> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/url/ocropy.ocropus.googlecode.com/hg/Notebooks/ocropus-steps.ipynb
>  On Jul 17, 2013 11:44 AM, "Wes Turner" <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I remember reading about what the major search engines use for
> PDF-to-HTML
> > and OCR for bitmap PDFs but can't find the link. Many of the desktop
> search
> > programs do have some sort of PDF support.
> >
> > On Jul 17, 2013 9:00 AM, "Mike Hostetler" <mike at squarepegsystems.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > PDF conversion to anything is hard. Turning it into anything structured
> > > like HTML or any markup language would be fraught with peril. If you
> are
> > > lucky, you can dump them to straight, plain text. If you can do that,
> > leave
> > > it alone.
> > >
> > > Matt Steele came to me for advice on how to parse the PDFs (I had
> tweeted
> > > that I was doing it at work so he contacted me off-line) and what they
> > used
> > > matches fairly closely with what I do. The kicker is that sometimes
> > people
> > > simply scan a page and save that image in a PDF. It looks like text,
> but
> > > it's actually an image. So you can't use normal PDF Parsing tools with
> > > that. The best you can do it extract each image, and run an OCR tool on
> > > them (which is what tesseract is).
> > >
> > > Throwing the result into ElasticSearch is certainly the best option --
> > it's
> > > magical on how well it works. Just pump the text files into an ES
> server
> > > via it's REST interface and, volia, you can google your documents.
> > >
> > > http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/
> > >
> >
> > Faceted query support like that provided by ElasticSearch (Lucene) would
> > be helpful.
> >
> > I was just looking into a Kibana3 query dashboard for ElasticSearch (for
> > Heka). I am somewhat familiar with PyES, but Kibana3 is all JavaScript
> > (like the Deniz SPARQL browser).
> >
> > Not sure how/whether Kibana3 supports any sort of throttling. (E.g. how
> > resilient is an un-reverse-proxied ES?)
> >
> > * https://tika.apache.org/1.4/formats.html#Portable_Document_Format
> >
> > *
> >
> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch-mapper-attachments/blob/master/README.md
> >
> > While convenient for archiving, most PDF serializations of editor
> document
> > trees end up mixing way too much presentation with the content.
> >
> > The PDF.js HTML5 PDF viewer is also great.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > So the data/publishing process would be something like:
> > > >
> > > >     Template -> Text Processor -> PDF -> SQL/search -> Template ->
> HTML
> > > >
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > I definitely see the value in getting past agenda PDFs indexed and
> > > > searchable, but wouldn't it make more sense to just save as HTML? (Or
> > .RST
> > > > :o)
> > > >
> > > >     Template -> Text Processor -> HTML (-> ___ custom search)
> > > >
> > > > That way, we could read these documents on a device with a smaller
> > screen.
> > > > And permalink to headers. And adjust font sizes. And search.
> > > >
> > > > .. see also: http://redd.it/140oxj
> > > > On Jul 16, 2013 9:15 AM, "Matt Wynn" <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Jay, you're my people!
> > > > >
> > > > > And Jim, I think Jeff and I had talked about council agendas as a
> fun
> > > > > project to toy with. I've heard from folks at the city, for
> instance,
> > > > that
> > > > > they'd love to have just the underlying functionality available.
> > That way
> > > > > they could create have a centralized source for finding or
> displaying
> > > > > zoning/planning/liquor/whatever issues. to separate the business
> > logic of
> > > > > that project from the site itself would have value -- I'd host it
> in
> > a
> > > > > heartbeat.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:00 AM, <omaha-request at python.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Send Omaha mailing list submissions to
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> > > > > > Today's Topics:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    1. Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Matt Wynn)
> > > > > >    2. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (James Drake)
> > > > > >    3. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Jay Hannah)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Message: 1
> > > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:46:53 -0500
> > > > > > From: Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > > > > > To: omaha at python.org
> > > > > > Subject: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > > >         <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=
> > > > > > iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg at mail.gmail.com>
> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> > > > > discussion
> > > > > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha Python
> > and
> > > > Hack
> > > > > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack Omaha
> > is an
> > > > > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to make
> > cool
> > > > > civic
> > > > > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information,
> > and aim
> > > > > to
> > > > > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more
> > accessible.
> > > > > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it
> sounds
> > > > > > intriguing).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the groups
> > could
> > > > > fit
> > > > > > together:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack
> > Omaha. I
> > > > > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't
> > always
> > > > a
> > > > > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the
> previous
> > > > > two...
> > > > > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition, and
> > > > either
> > > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> > winner
> > > > > from
> > > > > > the last event:
> > > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > > .
> > > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
> > website,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's
> > also in
> > > > > > Perl.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands in
> > the
> > > > app
> > > > > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > > > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > > > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > > > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might be
> > > > > bullshit.
> > > > > > We also might be missing something key.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're
> > missing?
> > > > > > Tell us what sucks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Matt
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Message: 2
> > > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:23:03 -0500
> > > > > > From: James Drake <jim.drake at gmail.com>
> > > > > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > > >         <
> > > > > >
> CAK-qddObXb3gSOjULuxF_XLAkY37UMe2e6sGRhwZ+kLGeaKW+g at mail.gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matt,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd be interested in putting my meager talents to work on
> project,
> > > > maybe
> > > > > > sooner rather than later. Are there any left-over that weren't
> > > > attempted?
> > > > > > The timing for volunteering may just work and learning something
> > new
> > > > may
> > > > > > just work better for me. I'm more comfortable with Perl now but
> > would
> > > > be
> > > > > > happy to work at a slower pace in Python too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha
> Python
> > and
> > > > > Hack
> > > > > > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack
> Omaha
> > is
> > > > an
> > > > > > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to
> make
> > cool
> > > > > > civic
> > > > > > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information,
> > and
> > > > aim
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more
> > accessible.
> > > > > > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it
> > sounds
> > > > > > > intriguing).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the
> groups
> > > > could
> > > > > > fit
> > > > > > > together:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack
> > > > Omaha. I
> > > > > > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't
> > > > always
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the
> > previous
> > > > > > two...
> > > > > > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition,
> and
> > > > > either
> > > > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> > > > winner
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > the last event:
> > > > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > > > .
> > > > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
> > website,
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's
> > also
> > > > in
> > > > > > > Perl.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > > > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands
> > in the
> > > > > app
> > > > > > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > > > > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > > > > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > > > > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might
> be
> > > > > > bullshit.
> > > > > > > We also might be missing something key.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're
> > > > missing?
> > > > > > > Tell us what sucks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Matt
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Message: 3
> > > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0500
> > > > > > From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> > > > > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > > > Message-ID: <7FB438AD-EEDD-44AA-A42C-F37001DAE37E at jays.net>
> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > giving up a weekend to code isn't always a great attraction.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's not? I do it a lot.   ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition,
> and
> > > > > either
> > > > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> > > > winner
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > the last event:
> > > > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > > > .
> > > > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
> > website,
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's
> > also
> > > > in
> > > > > > > Perl.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why can't / doesn't dataomaha.com "host" stuff that's already
> done
> > > > that
> > > > > > happens to be written in Perl? Just curious.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > j
> > > > > > omacode.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Jul 17 22:42:58 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:42:58 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 8
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The public source of the data appears to be pdfs.
http://www.cityofomaha.org/cityclerk/city-council/agendas

-j


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Dan Linder <dan at linder.org> wrote:

> Did I mis-read, or isn't the contents of these PDFs coming from a template
> or text processing engine originally?  Why not generate the HTML and
> searchable contents from there and build the PDF after the fact?  Or am I
> missing the source of the data?
>
> Dan
>
> FWIW, If you need a command-line tool to convert a URL to PDF, check out
> WKHtmlToPDF (http://code.google.com/p/wkhtmltopdf/).  It has binaries for
> Linux, OSX, and Windows.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Conveniently just found this IPython notebook demonstrating OCR in
> Python:
> >
> >
> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/url/ocropy.ocropus.googlecode.com/hg/Notebooks/ocropus-steps.ipynb
> >  On Jul 17, 2013 11:44 AM, "Wes Turner" <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I remember reading about what the major search engines use for
> > PDF-to-HTML
> > > and OCR for bitmap PDFs but can't find the link. Many of the desktop
> > search
> > > programs do have some sort of PDF support.
> > >
> > > On Jul 17, 2013 9:00 AM, "Mike Hostetler" <mike at squarepegsystems.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > PDF conversion to anything is hard. Turning it into anything
> structured
> > > > like HTML or any markup language would be fraught with peril. If you
> > are
> > > > lucky, you can dump them to straight, plain text. If you can do that,
> > > leave
> > > > it alone.
> > > >
> > > > Matt Steele came to me for advice on how to parse the PDFs (I had
> > tweeted
> > > > that I was doing it at work so he contacted me off-line) and what
> they
> > > used
> > > > matches fairly closely with what I do. The kicker is that sometimes
> > > people
> > > > simply scan a page and save that image in a PDF. It looks like text,
> > but
> > > > it's actually an image. So you can't use normal PDF Parsing tools
> with
> > > > that. The best you can do it extract each image, and run an OCR tool
> on
> > > > them (which is what tesseract is).
> > > >
> > > > Throwing the result into ElasticSearch is certainly the best option
> --
> > > it's
> > > > magical on how well it works. Just pump the text files into an ES
> > server
> > > > via it's REST interface and, volia, you can google your documents.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/
> > > >
> > >
> > > Faceted query support like that provided by ElasticSearch (Lucene)
> would
> > > be helpful.
> > >
> > > I was just looking into a Kibana3 query dashboard for ElasticSearch
> (for
> > > Heka). I am somewhat familiar with PyES, but Kibana3 is all JavaScript
> > > (like the Deniz SPARQL browser).
> > >
> > > Not sure how/whether Kibana3 supports any sort of throttling. (E.g. how
> > > resilient is an un-reverse-proxied ES?)
> > >
> > > * https://tika.apache.org/1.4/formats.html#Portable_Document_Format
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch-mapper-attachments/blob/master/README.md
> > >
> > > While convenient for archiving, most PDF serializations of editor
> > document
> > > trees end up mixing way too much presentation with the content.
> > >
> > > The PDF.js HTML5 PDF viewer is also great.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So the data/publishing process would be something like:
> > > > >
> > > > >     Template -> Text Processor -> PDF -> SQL/search -> Template ->
> > HTML
> > > > >
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I definitely see the value in getting past agenda PDFs indexed and
> > > > > searchable, but wouldn't it make more sense to just save as HTML?
> (Or
> > > .RST
> > > > > :o)
> > > > >
> > > > >     Template -> Text Processor -> HTML (-> ___ custom search)
> > > > >
> > > > > That way, we could read these documents on a device with a smaller
> > > screen.
> > > > > And permalink to headers. And adjust font sizes. And search.
> > > > >
> > > > > .. see also: http://redd.it/140oxj
> > > > > On Jul 16, 2013 9:15 AM, "Matt Wynn" <matt.wynn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jay, you're my people!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And Jim, I think Jeff and I had talked about council agendas as a
> > fun
> > > > > > project to toy with. I've heard from folks at the city, for
> > instance,
> > > > > that
> > > > > > they'd love to have just the underlying functionality available.
> > > That way
> > > > > > they could create have a centralized source for finding or
> > displaying
> > > > > > zoning/planning/liquor/whatever issues. to separate the business
> > > logic of
> > > > > > that project from the site itself would have value -- I'd host it
> > in
> > > a
> > > > > > heartbeat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:00 AM, <omaha-request at python.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    1. Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Matt Wynn)
> > > > > > >    2. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (James Drake)
> > > > > > >    3. Re: Open source projects/Hack Omaha (Jay Hannah)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Message: 1
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:46:53 -0500
> > > > > > > From: Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > To: omaha at python.org
> > > > > > > Subject: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > > > >         <CAFXqcUrnfbEkTQWmgTxQv5b3eyJqF5=
> > > > > > > iXJqcXtu6vBeiwpF7Bg at mail.gmail.com>
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have this
> > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha
> Python
> > > and
> > > > > Hack
> > > > > > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack
> Omaha
> > > is an
> > > > > > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to
> make
> > > cool
> > > > > > civic
> > > > > > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic information,
> > > and aim
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more
> > > accessible.
> > > > > > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it
> > sounds
> > > > > > > intriguing).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the
> groups
> > > could
> > > > > > fit
> > > > > > > together:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in Hack
> > > Omaha. I
> > > > > > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code isn't
> > > always
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the
> > previous
> > > > > > two...
> > > > > > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition,
> and
> > > > > either
> > > > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point, the
> > > winner
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > the last event:
> > > > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > > > .
> > > > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
> > > website,
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome. It's
> > > also in
> > > > > > > Perl.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > > > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their hands
> in
> > > the
> > > > > app
> > > > > > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > > > > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > > > > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > > > > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might
> be
> > > > > > bullshit.
> > > > > > > We also might be missing something key.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think we're
> > > missing?
> > > > > > > Tell us what sucks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Matt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Message: 2
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:23:03 -0500
> > > > > > > From: James Drake <jim.drake at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > > > >         <
> > > > > > >
> > CAK-qddObXb3gSOjULuxF_XLAkY37UMe2e6sGRhwZ+kLGeaKW+g at mail.gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Matt,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd be interested in putting my meager talents to work on
> > project,
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > sooner rather than later. Are there any left-over that weren't
> > > > > attempted?
> > > > > > > The timing for volunteering may just work and learning
> something
> > > new
> > > > > may
> > > > > > > just work better for me. I'm more comfortable with Perl now but
> > > would
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > happy to work at a slower pace in Python too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <
> matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jeff Hinrichs and I had lunch last week and wanted to have
> this
> > > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > > on list. So pardon the royal Wes and other whatnot.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The basic gist of our conversation was finding ways Omaha
> > Python
> > > and
> > > > > > Hack
> > > > > > > > Omaha could play together. For those that don't know, Hack
> > Omaha
> > > is
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > > annual event/competition, sponsored by the World-Herald, to
> > make
> > > cool
> > > > > > > civic
> > > > > > > > projects. Generally, the projects start with civic
> information,
> > > and
> > > > > aim
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > make that information more useful, more fun, or just more
> > > accessible.
> > > > > > > > (We're tentatively scheduled for Oct 18-20 this year, if it
> > > sounds
> > > > > > > > intriguing).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If I recall correctly, there were two ways we thought the
> > groups
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > fit
> > > > > > > > together:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - First, of course, folks from the group could compete in
> Hack
> > > > > Omaha. I
> > > > > > > > hope you do, but I understand giving up a weekend to code
> isn't
> > > > > always
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > great attraction. (Though this one will be better than the
> > > previous
> > > > > > > two...
> > > > > > > > and I thought those were pretty fun).
> > > > > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition,
> > and
> > > > > > either
> > > > > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point,
> the
> > > > > winner
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the last event:
> > > > > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
> > > website,
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome.
> It's
> > > also
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > Perl.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > > > > > where we'd be super happy to credit anyone who had their
> hands
> > > in the
> > > > > > app
> > > > > > > > itself. So now we're working with the trifecta:
> > > > > > > > - Fun open source projects that build community
> > > > > > > > - And make local government data more useful
> > > > > > > > - And make killer entries on a resume
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Am I missing anything, Jeff? And non-Jeffs, all of this might
> > be
> > > > > > > bullshit.
> > > > > > > > We also might be missing something key.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does any of this sound good? Is there anything you think
> we're
> > > > > missing?
> > > > > > > > Tell us what sucks!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Matt
> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Message: 3
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0500
> > > > > > > From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> > > > > > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [omaha] Open source projects/Hack Omaha
> > > > > > > Message-ID: <7FB438AD-EEDD-44AA-A42C-F37001DAE37E at jays.net>
> > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Matt Wynn <matt.wynn at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > giving up a weekend to code isn't always a great attraction.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's not? I do it a lot.   ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Second, members could adopt projects after the competition,
> > and
> > > > > > either
> > > > > > > > move them forward or convert them to Python. Case in point,
> the
> > > > > winner
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the last event:
> > > > > > https://github.com/mattdsteele/hackomaha-council-agendas
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > It pulls down nasty city council agenda PDFs from the city's
> > > website,
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > indexes them and makes them text-searchable. It's awesome.
> It's
> > > also
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > Perl.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If a project is Pythonized, The World-Herald can host it on
> > > > > > > dataomaha.com,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why can't / doesn't dataomaha.com "host" stuff that's already
> > done
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > happens to be written in Perl? Just curious.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > j
> > > > > > > omacode.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > SquarePeg Systems
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-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Jul 17 23:33:25 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:33:25 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone want to meet up tonight?

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jim.drake at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 23:47:11 2013
From: jim.drake at gmail.com (James Drake)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:47:11 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK-qddNEygGpgEgcmEm74yk+mwqTShjr+6FPsbEyzVMWBB_RQw@mail.gmail.com>

Nothing to show but willing to listen.


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 18 00:38:38 2013
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1374100718.83236.YahooMailNeo@web165004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Where?? What time?

Joe Gulizia




________________________________
 From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:33 PM
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
 

Does anyone want to meet up tonight?

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473
_______________________________________________
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Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 18 00:41:47 2013
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:41:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1374100907.73163.YahooMailNeo@web165001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Google Hangout also a possibility

Joe Gulizia




________________________________
 From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:33 PM
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
 

Does anyone want to meet up tonight?

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473
_______________________________________________
Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 00:46:33 2013
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:46:33 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzhY1XWq4ZmEPZfn9eBCBVoZyaYSCiKw=e3eHwZVgdiKAA@mail.gmail.com>

I am packing for vacation. Can't make it.
On Jul 17, 2013 4:33 PM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:

> Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Jul 18 00:47:40 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:47:40 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
In-Reply-To: <1374100907.73163.YahooMailNeo@web165001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1374100907.73163.YahooMailNeo@web165001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO9fjPhzR6yuH8eXt3-NS0xvf0uCw_RM5KQ0FAT=DzE5sA@mail.gmail.com>

+1 Hangout

Honestly, the meeting sneaked up on me.    We can go over the recap of the
Matt Makai talk, and what I've learned from the contact @ Creighton and the
upcoming hack omaha.


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Google Hangout also a possibility
>
> Joe Gulizia
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:33 PM
> Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
>
>
> Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jaybocc2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 01:31:28 2013
From: jaybocc2 at gmail.com (Jay Bendon)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:31:28 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO9fjPhzR6yuH8eXt3-NS0xvf0uCw_RM5KQ0FAT=DzE5sA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1374100907.73163.YahooMailNeo@web165001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CALHZEO9fjPhzR6yuH8eXt3-NS0xvf0uCw_RM5KQ0FAT=DzE5sA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO630UkWWM=qbFSMen3LYOjO3q_inp-UMZk+xAyPzd66mCwYKQ@mail.gmail.com>

wife and i are packing/cleaning aswell so i wouldn't be able to make it :-/


--Jay


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> +1 Hangout
>
> Honestly, the meeting sneaked up on me.    We can go over the recap of the
> Matt Makai talk, and what I've learned from the contact @ Creighton and the
> upcoming hack omaha.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Google Hangout also a possibility
> >
> > Joe Gulizia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:33 PM
> > Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
> >
> >
> > Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jmoseman01 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 02:08:22 2013
From: jmoseman01 at gmail.com (jesse moseman)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:08:22 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 77, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23548.1374103891.3113.omaha@python.org>
References: <mailman.23548.1374103891.3113.omaha@python.org>
Message-ID: <CAEawFbg9sM-jZ_qRPjZWLAeiUAoZ1qVFiBBOPxLS4cVNDEOhZg@mail.gmail.com>

how are you guys setting up the hangout?


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> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:33:25 -0500
> From: "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
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> Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
>
> --
> Best,
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> Jeff Hinrichs
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:47:11 -0500
> From: James Drake <jim.drake at gmail.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Nothing to show but willing to listen.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
> Message-ID:
>         <1374100718.83236.YahooMailNeo at web165004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Where?? What time?
>
> Joe Gulizia
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:33 PM
> Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
>
>
> Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:41:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
> Message-ID:
>         <1374100907.73163.YahooMailNeo at web165001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Google Hangout also a possibility
>
> Joe Gulizia
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:33 PM
> Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
>
>
> Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:46:33 -0500
> From: Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
> Message-ID:
>         <CAFGSzzhY1XWq4ZmEPZfn9eBCBVoZyaYSCiKw=
> e3eHwZVgdiKAA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I am packing for vacation. Can't make it.
> On Jul 17, 2013 4:33 PM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:47:40 -0500
> From: "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
> Message-ID:
>         <CALHZEO9fjPhzR6yuH8eXt3-NS0xvf0uCw_RM5KQ0FAT=
> DzE5sA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> +1 Hangout
>
> Honestly, the meeting sneaked up on me.    We can go over the recap of the
> Matt Makai talk, and what I've learned from the contact @ Creighton and the
> upcoming hack omaha.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Google Hangout also a possibility
> >
> > Joe Gulizia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:33 PM
> > Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
> >
> >
> > Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:31:28 -0500
> From: Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com>
> To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
> Message-ID:
>         <CAO630UkWWM=
> qbFSMen3LYOjO3q_inp-UMZk+xAyPzd66mCwYKQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> wife and i are packing/cleaning aswell so i wouldn't be able to make it :-/
>
>
> --Jay
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > +1 Hangout
> >
> > Honestly, the meeting sneaked up on me.    We can go over the recap of
> the
> > Matt Makai talk, and what I've learned from the contact @ Creighton and
> the
> > upcoming hack omaha.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Google Hangout also a possibility
> > >
> > > Joe Gulizia
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:33 PM
> > > Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
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From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Jul 18 02:09:21 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:09:21 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
In-Reply-To: <CAO630UkWWM=qbFSMen3LYOjO3q_inp-UMZk+xAyPzd66mCwYKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1374100907.73163.YahooMailNeo@web165001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CALHZEO9fjPhzR6yuH8eXt3-NS0xvf0uCw_RM5KQ0FAT=DzE5sA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO630UkWWM=qbFSMen3LYOjO3q_inp-UMZk+xAyPzd66mCwYKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_Ab_-8j0j7kqv5uNvPBdbX_70cYE3XCPAEvDXA4sK9fg@mail.gmail.com>

look for my next note, just got out of a meeting the ran long.
sorry
brb


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> wife and i are packing/cleaning aswell so i wouldn't be able to make it :-/
>
>
> --Jay
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > +1 Hangout
> >
> > Honestly, the meeting sneaked up on me.    We can go over the recap of
> the
> > Matt Makai talk, and what I've learned from the contact @ Creighton and
> the
> > upcoming hack omaha.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Google Hangout also a possibility
> > >
> > > Joe Gulizia
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:33 PM
> > > Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Jul 18 02:14:25 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:14:25 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_Ab_-8j0j7kqv5uNvPBdbX_70cYE3XCPAEvDXA4sK9fg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+010JZTj_vnWXNRqZ5J3FoU63brorQq-8ej6peuhCdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1374100907.73163.YahooMailNeo@web165001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CALHZEO9fjPhzR6yuH8eXt3-NS0xvf0uCw_RM5KQ0FAT=DzE5sA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO630UkWWM=qbFSMen3LYOjO3q_inp-UMZk+xAyPzd66mCwYKQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO_Ab_-8j0j7kqv5uNvPBdbX_70cYE3XCPAEvDXA4sK9fg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO9xddMBa-CEC2CpNb5dkS6FiW3zU7-QL1OEOOoW8gX71Q@mail.gmail.com>

should be an invite ending up in the list soon.  If you are not seeing it,
just reply to this email with your email addr


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> look for my next note, just got out of a meeting the ran long.
> sorry
> brb
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> wife and i are packing/cleaning aswell so i wouldn't be able to make it
>> :-/
>>
>>
>> --Jay
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > +1 Hangout
>> >
>> > Honestly, the meeting sneaked up on me.    We can go over the recap of
>> the
>> > Matt Makai talk, and what I've learned from the contact @ Creighton and
>> the
>> > upcoming hack omaha.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Joe Gulizia <jrguliz at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Google Hangout also a possibility
>> > >
>> > > Joe Gulizia
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________
>> > >  From: Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
>> > > To: Omaha Python Users Group <omaha at python.org>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:33 PM
>> > > Subject: [omaha] Meeting tonight....
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone want to meet up tonight?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Best,
>> > >
>> > > Jeff Hinrichs
>> > > 402.218.1473
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > Omaha at python.org
>> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > Omaha at python.org
>> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Jeff Hinrichs
>> > 402.218.1473
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > Omaha at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
>
>


-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Jul 18 02:19:33 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:19:33 -0500
Subject: [omaha] tech difficulties ... hang on
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-zVi7p9QiGXD7b4M7_fe0NJYF5M2GpterwrVr0LsiAUQ@mail.gmail.com>

also, I've started the hangout so email me/list invite.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jim.drake at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 02:23:06 2013
From: jim.drake at gmail.com (James Drake)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:23:06 -0500
Subject: [omaha] tech difficulties ... hang on
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO-zVi7p9QiGXD7b4M7_fe0NJYF5M2GpterwrVr0LsiAUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO-zVi7p9QiGXD7b4M7_fe0NJYF5M2GpterwrVr0LsiAUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK-qddMLU8A1=vFGnyP6gDz2z1vRDrfV+==L=U6LB8T=KeMQ8Q@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be joining you in a few minutes.

Jim


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> also, I've started the hangout so email me/list invite.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Jul 18 02:24:01 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:24:01 -0500
Subject: [omaha] sorry, hard drive crash
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_g7FqjnGr-dUykocwja9qKtvk8yGT-JHK2UQHW5_U=VA@mail.gmail.com>

can someone else start up the hangout and send invites?

I will join as quickly as possible.

thanks

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From steve at alrlighting.com  Wed Jul 17 21:04:04 2013
From: steve at alrlighting.com (Steve Young)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:04:04 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Meeting Location
In-Reply-To: <CAK-qddPYohZ9TGEY-dteR4TQ6xpi2q__ndyus2sOPOq1DKhewg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8+D5fEMXtNuDvq_kwuF6sovVKY2d3RCcNBYtmYnmsBRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAK-qddPYohZ9TGEY-dteR4TQ6xpi2q__ndyus2sOPOq1DKhewg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzhQwUHu=Wj+d37=Vf774gvenhFyUqSt5yY=ZF_qaRD57w@mail.gmail.com>

+1 - close to my work and home!

Steve Young
Architectural Lighting Resources
13829 Industrial Rd
Omaha, NE 68137

402-651-5216 Cell
402-397-2867 Office
www.ALRLighting.com



On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:33 PM, James Drake <jim.drake at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 for Creighton
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hello List,
> >
> > Thanks to an introduction from Matt Wynn, I've made contact with a
> > professor at Creighton who has offered to get us space to meet on campus.
> >  The whole ball of wax -- room, tables, projector, parking, etc.
> >
> > I think it would be a good thing to take her up on the offer but I would
> > like to get feedback from the group on the new venue.  If you are
> generally
> > favorable to the new meeting location idea go ahead and +1 the list.  If
> > you are less than enthusiastic about it, please let the group or me know
> in
> > more detail.
> >
> >
> > I look forward to your responses.
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From Payne at MattPayne.org  Tue Jul 23 18:34:27 2013
From: Payne at MattPayne.org (Matt Payne)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:34:27 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Test Driven Web Development with Python (Django)
Message-ID: <CAOQmnQE-7Ev=ZF33iOg1Zrn5_UaE48nbecH70qdGhKr-VZbz2A@mail.gmail.com>

The new book Test Driven Web Development with Python (Django) is currently
available for free online viewing.   All O'Reilly eBooks are currently 50%
too[2].

[1] http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1234000000754/index.html
[2] CFSCN13

From mike at squarepegsystems.com  Mon Jul 29 21:38:17 2013
From: mike at squarepegsystems.com (Mike Hostetler)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:38:17 -0500
Subject: [omaha] on py.test
Message-ID: <CAE1_9RVuU6YzDBrfcCHTWrxz35fRBCQ+z4qb7Ns_C2aQzvFSjw@mail.gmail.com>

so based on Jeff's suggestion a while back, I have played around a bit with
py.test and I have to say . . . it's nice! It's good to get away from
unittest.TestCase's patterns (i.e. repeating what Java's JUnit 3 used which
is bad even for Java).

Note that Nose still runs py.test's test, which is really good -- my dev
environment is wired to sure Nose via a short-cut, so as long at py.test is
installed, nose can magically still run. I like that.

I still need to figure out how to use py.test instead of Django's testing
scheme (which uses unittest). I did convert some tests over, but the ones
that require some fixtures in my database are troublesome.

I'd also like to see if py.test (or Python) has something like 'shoulda'
like Ruby/Rails does. That would be magical as well.

-- 
Mike Hostetler
SquarePeg Systems
http://www.squarepegsystems.com

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Tue Jul 30 14:55:42 2013
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:55:42 -0500
Subject: [omaha] on py.test
In-Reply-To: <CAE1_9RVuU6YzDBrfcCHTWrxz35fRBCQ+z4qb7Ns_C2aQzvFSjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE1_9RVuU6YzDBrfcCHTWrxz35fRBCQ+z4qb7Ns_C2aQzvFSjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-wbdHGhqkK8XH76=ESH+nwSg1YMrYtptRmcWbjyog85g@mail.gmail.com>

Didn't know that about nose running py.test.   As for Django, I haven't run
py.test with it yet, but I've read good things about pytest-django.

Not related to py.test/nose, I've stopped using fixtures for testing Django
and have moved over to using factoryboy
https://readthedocs.org/projects/factoryboy/ .  The problem in general with
fixtures and testing is their brittleness and getting just the right amount
of data.  Too little and things slip past, too much and you are just
wasting time.   If you ever rolled your eyes or groaned out loud because
you fixtures created a problem during testing you should check out FB.

I'll have to take a look at 'shoulda'  not sure what it does.

Best,
Jeff


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hostetler
<mike at squarepegsystems.com>wrote:

> so based on Jeff's suggestion a while back, I have played around a bit with
> py.test and I have to say . . . it's nice! It's good to get away from
> unittest.TestCase's patterns (i.e. repeating what Java's JUnit 3 used which
> is bad even for Java).
>
> Note that Nose still runs py.test's test, which is really good -- my dev
> environment is wired to sure Nose via a short-cut, so as long at py.test is
> installed, nose can magically still run. I like that.
>
> I still need to figure out how to use py.test instead of Django's testing
> scheme (which uses unittest). I did convert some tests over, but the ones
> that require some fixtures in my database are troublesome.
>
> I'd also like to see if py.test (or Python) has something like 'shoulda'
> like Ruby/Rails does. That would be magical as well.
>
> --
> Mike Hostetler
> SquarePeg Systems
> http://www.squarepegsystems.com
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 15:24:32 2013
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:24:32 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Test Driven Web Development with Python (Django)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQmnQE-7Ev=ZF33iOg1Zrn5_UaE48nbecH70qdGhKr-VZbz2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOQmnQE-7Ev=ZF33iOg1Zrn5_UaE48nbecH70qdGhKr-VZbz2A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzhhVpj+D25nUOgS5Pm5kBq_DL=UhHELjm11dqmFoiBCmA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the link - I have gone thru 4 chapters.  I have done a little
testing before but never with django and/or selenium.  This is helping me
see how to test web apps and combine functional/unit tests in a project.

The book seems more of a tutorial than a scholarly manuscript.  Easy to
read and follow.  The only item I wish he included was virtualenv.

I am usually a Windows and Pycharm user but for this book I set up a
Lubuntu VM and trying emacs.

Steve

Steve


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Matt Payne <Payne at mattpayne.org> wrote:

> The new book Test Driven Web Development with Python (Django) is currently
> available for free online viewing.   All O'Reilly eBooks are currently 50%
> too[2].
>
> [1] http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1234000000754/index.html
> [2] CFSCN13
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 15:40:16 2013
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:40:16 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Zend.to in Python
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzhc-QxtjbRZ4iFs3B7kdTuMJoX7n8MZ7oqZ7p5XZLc3KA@mail.gmail.com>

I am looking for a way to send and receive large files for our office.
 Something like Zend.to.  Anyone have any ideas?
http://zend.to/downloads.php

I would like to have unlimited file size, Active Directory integration
would be nice, notifications when items are picked up or dropped off...
 Smartfile is a pay option that has nice features.
https://www.smartfile.com/pricing/

Thanks.

Steve

From mike at squarepegsystems.com  Tue Jul 30 15:43:57 2013
From: mike at squarepegsystems.com (Mike Hostetler)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:43:57 -0500
Subject: [omaha] on py.test
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO-wbdHGhqkK8XH76=ESH+nwSg1YMrYtptRmcWbjyog85g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE1_9RVuU6YzDBrfcCHTWrxz35fRBCQ+z4qb7Ns_C2aQzvFSjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO-wbdHGhqkK8XH76=ESH+nwSg1YMrYtptRmcWbjyog85g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE1_9RXmkMnmCDPghusToHFbZWa3xaqMH5y9d2SHEL0h0JnT1A@mail.gmail.com>

You didn't hear me scream when I had to make a model change  and half of my
fixtures stopped working? You must have been out of town that day . . .

I actually hate using fixtures but sometimes it is the easiest way.  I am
familiar with Ruby's FactoryGirl which this is based on, but (naturally) I
like the syntax of factory_boy better. FactoryGirl uses a lot of
behind-the-scenes magic which gets messed up.

I've also used Mockito in the past, but it seems to not have been updated
in a while. It's a bit different than what we have been talking about, but
can be very useful.
https://code.google.com/p/mockito-python/

And here is a link on 'shoulda':

https://github.com/thoughtbot/shoulda-matchers

Now onto factory_boy . . .


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Didn't know that about nose running py.test.   As for Django, I haven't run
> py.test with it yet, but I've read good things about pytest-django.
>
> Not related to py.test/nose, I've stopped using fixtures for testing Django
> and have moved over to using factoryboy
> https://readthedocs.org/projects/factoryboy/ .  The problem in general
> with
> fixtures and testing is their brittleness and getting just the right amount
> of data.  Too little and things slip past, too much and you are just
> wasting time.   If you ever rolled your eyes or groaned out loud because
> you fixtures created a problem during testing you should check out FB.
>
> I'll have to take a look at 'shoulda'  not sure what it does.
>
> Best,
> Jeff
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hostetler
> <mike at squarepegsystems.com>wrote:
>
> > so based on Jeff's suggestion a while back, I have played around a bit
> with
> > py.test and I have to say . . . it's nice! It's good to get away from
> > unittest.TestCase's patterns (i.e. repeating what Java's JUnit 3 used
> which
> > is bad even for Java).
> >
> > Note that Nose still runs py.test's test, which is really good -- my dev
> > environment is wired to sure Nose via a short-cut, so as long at py.test
> is
> > installed, nose can magically still run. I like that.
> >
> > I still need to figure out how to use py.test instead of Django's testing
> > scheme (which uses unittest). I did convert some tests over, but the ones
> > that require some fixtures in my database are troublesome.
> >
> > I'd also like to see if py.test (or Python) has something like 'shoulda'
> > like Ruby/Rails does. That would be magical as well.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Hostetler
> > SquarePeg Systems
> > http://www.squarepegsystems.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Mike Hostetler
SquarePeg Systems
http://www.squarepegsystems.com

From wes.turner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 17:23:19 2013
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:23:19 -0500
Subject: [omaha] on py.test
In-Reply-To: <CAE1_9RXmkMnmCDPghusToHFbZWa3xaqMH5y9d2SHEL0h0JnT1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE1_9RVuU6YzDBrfcCHTWrxz35fRBCQ+z4qb7Ns_C2aQzvFSjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALHZEO-wbdHGhqkK8XH76=ESH+nwSg1YMrYtptRmcWbjyog85g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE1_9RXmkMnmCDPghusToHFbZWa3xaqMH5y9d2SHEL0h0JnT1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfEFw8HtidPk0-w4iWFWbP_OSgca-B9fZgBmr7yDiC3en2QPg@mail.gmail.com>

For SQL ORMs (incl. sqlalchemy and django) and AppEngine, fixture works
pretty well:

http://farmdev.com/projects/fixture/

I just found nose_parameterized the other day:

https://github.com/wolever/nose-parameterized

Sure has really cool chainable assertions:

https://github.com/gabrielfalcao/sure

Some sort of integration with a BDD testing library would be great.

http://pythonhosted.org/behave/comparison.html

What % of 'coverage' with how many (name, _input, _output) sets?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_coverage

... Finding that point of diminishing returns with static analysis metrics
can be challenging.

https://github.com/plone/buildout.jenkins/blob/master/jenkins-code-analysis.cfg
On Jul 30, 2013 9:13 AM, "Mike Hostetler" <mike at squarepegsystems.com> wrote:

> You didn't hear me scream when I had to make a model change  and half of my
> fixtures stopped working? You must have been out of town that day . . .
>
> I actually hate using fixtures but sometimes it is the easiest way.  I am
> familiar with Ruby's FactoryGirl which this is based on, but (naturally) I
> like the syntax of factory_boy better. FactoryGirl uses a lot of
> behind-the-scenes magic which gets messed up.
>
> I've also used Mockito in the past, but it seems to not have been updated
> in a while. It's a bit different than what we have been talking about, but
> can be very useful.
> https://code.google.com/p/mockito-python/
>
> And here is a link on 'shoulda':
>
> https://github.com/thoughtbot/shoulda-matchers
>
> Now onto factory_boy . . .
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Didn't know that about nose running py.test.   As for Django, I haven't
> run
> > py.test with it yet, but I've read good things about pytest-django.
> >
> > Not related to py.test/nose, I've stopped using fixtures for testing
> Django
> > and have moved over to using factoryboy
> > https://readthedocs.org/projects/factoryboy/ .  The problem in general
> > with
> > fixtures and testing is their brittleness and getting just the right
> amount
> > of data.  Too little and things slip past, too much and you are just
> > wasting time.   If you ever rolled your eyes or groaned out loud because
> > you fixtures created a problem during testing you should check out FB.
> >
> > I'll have to take a look at 'shoulda'  not sure what it does.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hostetler
> > <mike at squarepegsystems.com>wrote:
> >
> > > so based on Jeff's suggestion a while back, I have played around a bit
> > with
> > > py.test and I have to say . . . it's nice! It's good to get away from
> > > unittest.TestCase's patterns (i.e. repeating what Java's JUnit 3 used
> > which
> > > is bad even for Java).
> > >
> > > Note that Nose still runs py.test's test, which is really good -- my
> dev
> > > environment is wired to sure Nose via a short-cut, so as long at
> py.test
> > is
> > > installed, nose can magically still run. I like that.
> > >
> > > I still need to figure out how to use py.test instead of Django's
> testing
> > > scheme (which uses unittest). I did convert some tests over, but the
> ones
> > > that require some fixtures in my database are troublesome.
> > >
> > > I'd also like to see if py.test (or Python) has something like
> 'shoulda'
> > > like Ruby/Rails does. That would be magical as well.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike Hostetler
> > > SquarePeg Systems
> > > http://www.squarepegsystems.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Hostetler
> SquarePeg Systems
> http://www.squarepegsystems.com
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From wes.turner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 30 18:42:18 2013
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:42:18 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Zend.to in Python
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzhc-QxtjbRZ4iFs3B7kdTuMJoX7n8MZ7oqZ7p5XZLc3KA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzhc-QxtjbRZ4iFs3B7kdTuMJoX7n8MZ7oqZ7p5XZLc3KA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfEFw-tvrmaWEcAV6-XkR_d_w-jn=bXNAS3-y=HUPzr2Zr5Cg@mail.gmail.com>

I believe both Dropbox and Google Drive support integration with single
sign on providers. When/if changes are made, is it necessary to re-send the
whole file again? What sort of file versioning is there?

Rsync over SSH is fast.

OAuth works.

* http://pythonhosted.org/xsendfile/
* http://django-social-auth.readthedocs.org/
* https://github.com/oauth-io/oauthd
* http://pythonhosted.org/fs/filesystems.html#s3
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStack#Amazon_Web_Services_compatibility
* http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r1.0.4/webhdfs.html
* http://git-annex.branchable.com
*
https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Interfaces,_frontends,_and_tools#Web_Interfaces
 On Jul 30, 2013 8:40 AM, "Steve Young" <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking for a way to send and receive large files for our office.
>  Something like Zend.to.  Anyone have any ideas?
> http://zend.to/downloads.php
>
> I would like to have unlimited file size, Active Directory integration
> would be nice, notifications when items are picked up or dropped off...
>  Smartfile is a pay option that has nice features.
> https://www.smartfile.com/pricing/
>
> Thanks.
>
> Steve
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