From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu May  1 06:12:22 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 23:12:22 -0500
Subject: [omaha] what pastebin do you use
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8b=UxL5gAkKyS9prSgnvYth8g4E9VdAF9uimF2-vXRSQ@mail.gmail.com>

there are too many snippet sharing sites.  Anyone have a recommendation?
 Cool if it could work with sublime.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From shawnhermans at gmail.com  Thu May  1 07:46:36 2014
From: shawnhermans at gmail.com (Shawn Hermans)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:46:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [omaha] what pastebin do you use
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8b=UxL5gAkKyS9prSgnvYth8g4E9VdAF9uimF2-vXRSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8b=UxL5gAkKyS9prSgnvYth8g4E9VdAF9uimF2-vXRSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1398923196580.8c0b62e1@Nodemailer>

I have been using Github Gists for over a year (https://gist.github.com/). ?Added benefit of being able to use Git to update Gists. ??
Sent from Mailbox

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
wrote:

> there are too many snippet sharing sites.  Anyone have a recommendation?
>  Cool if it could work with sublime.
> -- 
> Best,
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Thu May  1 20:35:59 2014
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 13:35:59 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Open Data/Free Open Source Data Analysis
Message-ID: <CA+aHcdCVHaw_fUvL6ByAe7ERKw=BvPviZsF4Wq_8b8Up_8iZjg@mail.gmail.com>

Came across an interesting site, useful if you're playing around in the
"big data" space with python. Some data sets specific to open source
projects, has a little bit of everything.

http://flossmole.org/content/about-0

From davidgilman1 at gmail.com  Thu May  1 06:41:01 2014
From: davidgilman1 at gmail.com (David Gilman)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 23:41:01 -0500
Subject: [omaha] what pastebin do you use
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8b=UxL5gAkKyS9prSgnvYth8g4E9VdAF9uimF2-vXRSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8b=UxL5gAkKyS9prSgnvYth8g4E9VdAF9uimF2-vXRSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALBH9DCFagHWiuVhnBxvHKK8nJnog=b0eiA_TMZi=3BUYRnXaQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sprunge.us .  If you can get to a shell from sublime I'm sure you can get
it to work with it.
On Apr 30, 2014 11:12 PM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:

> there are too many snippet sharing sites.  Anyone have a recommendation?
>  Cool if it could work with sublime.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jay at jays.net  Wed May  7 21:38:35 2014
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 14:38:35 -0500
Subject: [omaha] what pastebin do you use
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8b=UxL5gAkKyS9prSgnvYth8g4E9VdAF9uimF2-vXRSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO8b=UxL5gAkKyS9prSgnvYth8g4E9VdAF9uimF2-vXRSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <27D3DBC2-51D0-45B4-B261-EE9B6219F7EC@jays.net>

On Apr 30, 2014, at 11:12 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:
> there are too many snippet sharing sites.  Anyone have a recommendation?
> Cool if it could work with sublime.

gist.github.com

I'm a pretty heavy github user, so gist works out great.  :)

I use Sublime Text 2 a lot, but I don't know if they do anything fancy together. I tend to keep my tools as stupid as possible.

j




From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Fri May 16 21:54:02 2014
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 14:54:02 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Django Model patterns
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_=kHENWJ=84z2Xw3R4ZDq_GBeT3QN5VD7632qi4e2KgQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFGSzzgFnQnXr-ZZ5rKTjPLrLmgPh_C=zB7rZqaa-cwv+XksfQ@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for factory_boy

Nice video introduction from down under:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a713rcagoYU



Steve


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Side topic ahoy!
> >
> > As we get 2.x closer to 3.x The migration continues to get easier.  Code
> is
> > drastically different from 2.7 than it was from 2.4 or even 2.5.  I
> > understand the desire for 3.x to be significantly better than 2.x but as
> > long as the transition is simple and smooth it shouldn't matter that
> much.
> >
>
> I am in agreement here. The closer the 2.x series gets to the 3.x series,
> And by that, I'm talking about platforms such as django. 1.5/1.6 just
> started support for 3.x.  That and db access like pymssql and mysqldb.
>  Some are already in place, others are coming but until my tools and really
> my platforms (FreeBSD and linux) have 3.x in place for system default then
> I'll already be migrating.  When you cut code for a business -- my new app
> list is already overwhelming, there is no way I would purposely make my
> support environment larger than it had to be.  Most people in my company
> don't understand that we are a software company that just happens to sell
> non-software products. ;)
>
>
> > Just please don't follow perls example. :)
>
> --Jay
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > they appear to be solving the same problem, it isn't clear after a
> > cursory
> > > glance what model_mommy is trying to do that factoryboy doesn't/can't.
> > >
> > > factoryboy serves me well.  When I change or add tools, I expect a 10x
> > > improvement.  FactoryBoy did that over fixtures (and a lot more)
> > >  model_mommy may do the same over fixtures but not over factoryboy.  So
> > > unless I see a presentation on why model_mommy is significantly better
> > than
> > > factoryboy -  I view it as a time sink to change.  Also, docs are quite
> > > good on factoryboy and once you start using it, it is easy to remember.
> >  It
> > > just makes sense once you grok it.
> > >
> > > Always be open to change, but demand that the change bring a 10x
> > > improvement.  That is what is hurting python 3.x adoption. It is better
> > > than 2.x but only incrementally with large hurdles - code and 3rd party
> > > tools migration.
> > >
> > > these opinions are worth their market value, $0.00000001
> > >
> > > what say you?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Steve Young <
> wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > factoryboy is nice!  How about
> > > > https://github.com/vandersonmota/model_mommy?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> > > jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > factoryboy ++1
> > > > >
> > > > > wouldn't go back to anything else.   Makes testing taste great.
>  json
> > > > > importing is all crunchy, dry and brittle by comparison.   That +
> > > > > migrations (nee south) makes db refactoring less sucky. Still isn't
> > as
> > > > good
> > > > > as I would like to see db refactoring, but it is less like hard
> > > concrete
> > > > > and more like wet sand with these tools.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 2/19/14, Mike Hostetler <mike at squarepegsystems.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I'm getting ready to start a new Django project -- this is good
> > > > stuff.
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > > Wes added some great links too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I did move a bunch of Django fixtures from the "traditional"
> JSON
> > > > > > importing
> > > > > > > to FactoryBoy and -- wow -- was life ever easier after that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://factoryboy.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ ... Thanks!
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Best,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > > > 402.218.1473
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jay at jays.net  Fri May 16 23:20:46 2014
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 16:20:46 -0500
Subject: [omaha] website is 9m old?
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzgFnQnXr-ZZ5rKTjPLrLmgPh_C=zB7rZqaa-cwv+XksfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzg8uRPYJH1664mRNqfeH9YCjc+=6Rrh7FFwZGQPEFb2zQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <173832D9-9740-4B9B-828E-143AA80187D6@jays.net>

Oh! This group *is* alive! Just yesterday I pruned it out of the OMG!Code group list because the website is 9 months old?

   http://www.omahapython.org/blog/

Can the webmaster post something new or prune ancient stuff or put a generic "see our mailing list archive for current discussions" thing at the top or something?

Thanks,

j



https://github.com/omg-code/omg-code/commit/57a1261847




From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Sat May 17 21:15:49 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:15:49 -0500
Subject: [omaha] website is 9m old?
In-Reply-To: <173832D9-9740-4B9B-828E-143AA80187D6@jays.net>
References: <CAFGSzzg8uRPYJH1664mRNqfeH9YCjc+=6Rrh7FFwZGQPEFb2zQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALHZEO-QiGipnU=cqSHjFPE-hLBtTE97sr0KKZCekMQYkRk3sQ@mail.gmail.com>

Jay has a valid point.  We have not been good at keeping the website up to
date.

I've added member syndication to the site to help it smell fresh.
http://www.omahapython.org/blog/  If you post about Python on your own
blog, you can have it syndicated on the group website.  Kind of like a
miniature PlanetPython but localized to just us.
http://www.omahapython.org/blog/   Email the list to have your blog
included.  Make sure and send an rss feed link that filters your posts to
relevant python related material.  Doesn't have to be pure python, just
related.  (i.e. angular used with django)

Also, it would be nice to get another couple or so individuals who would
act as editors.  Steve and I have been doing it for quite a while and
having fresh blood is always good.  Want to change something on or about
the group site -- step up.

I've been updating some of my open source projects recently.  Moving from
svn on google code to mercurial on bitbucket.  (yah, yah github -- but I
don't want to contribute to this dangerous mono-culture based on a cult of
personality.)  Anyway, most of my recent posts have dealt with dealing with
distributing your projects on pypi, continuous integration and testing.

So even if you don't have a blog, or want to be an editor, we accept
contributor articles -- we all have stories to tell, why don't you tell
yours?

Best,

Jeff


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:

> Oh! This group *is* alive! Just yesterday I pruned it out of the OMG!Code
> group list because the website is 9 months old?
>
>    http://www.omahapython.org/blog/
>
> Can the webmaster post something new or prune ancient stuff or put a
> generic "see our mailing list archive for current discussions" thing at the
> top or something?
>
> Thanks,
>
> j
>
>
>
> https://github.com/omg-code/omg-code/commit/57a1261847
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Sat May 17 23:31:43 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 16:31:43 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Django Model patterns
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzgFnQnXr-ZZ5rKTjPLrLmgPh_C=zB7rZqaa-cwv+XksfQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALHZEO_ZBad1me2KugcNtBTZ2m=Q6UTRq7rx270qXyXZ+LpM+A@mail.gmail.com>

Jep,

Mock is another handy module to have.  I just used it in a test the other
day.
https://bitbucket.org/dundeemt/pysftp/src/3f28f05b9876103bccf1e6d5a47847163bf6cfcb/tests/test_pysftp_01.py?at=default
search for test_putfo around line 84.  Actually, I used it a number of
times to mock a generic function for testing a callback.
-j

jep - Just Enough Python


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> +1 for factory_boy
>
> Nice video introduction from down under:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a713rcagoYU
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Side topic ahoy!
> > >
> > > As we get 2.x closer to 3.x The migration continues to get easier.
>  Code
> > is
> > > drastically different from 2.7 than it was from 2.4 or even 2.5.  I
> > > understand the desire for 3.x to be significantly better than 2.x but
> as
> > > long as the transition is simple and smooth it shouldn't matter that
> > much.
> > >
> >
> > I am in agreement here. The closer the 2.x series gets to the 3.x series,
> > And by that, I'm talking about platforms such as django. 1.5/1.6 just
> > started support for 3.x.  That and db access like pymssql and mysqldb.
> >  Some are already in place, others are coming but until my tools and
> really
> > my platforms (FreeBSD and linux) have 3.x in place for system default
> then
> > I'll already be migrating.  When you cut code for a business -- my new
> app
> > list is already overwhelming, there is no way I would purposely make my
> > support environment larger than it had to be.  Most people in my company
> > don't understand that we are a software company that just happens to sell
> > non-software products. ;)
> >
> >
> > > Just please don't follow perls example. :)
> >
> > --Jay
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> > jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > they appear to be solving the same problem, it isn't clear after a
> > > cursory
> > > > glance what model_mommy is trying to do that factoryboy
> doesn't/can't.
> > > >
> > > > factoryboy serves me well.  When I change or add tools, I expect a
> 10x
> > > > improvement.  FactoryBoy did that over fixtures (and a lot more)
> > > >  model_mommy may do the same over fixtures but not over factoryboy.
>  So
> > > > unless I see a presentation on why model_mommy is significantly
> better
> > > than
> > > > factoryboy -  I view it as a time sink to change.  Also, docs are
> quite
> > > > good on factoryboy and once you start using it, it is easy to
> remember.
> > >  It
> > > > just makes sense once you grok it.
> > > >
> > > > Always be open to change, but demand that the change bring a 10x
> > > > improvement.  That is what is hurting python 3.x adoption. It is
> better
> > > > than 2.x but only incrementally with large hurdles - code and 3rd
> party
> > > > tools migration.
> > > >
> > > > these opinions are worth their market value, $0.00000001
> > > >
> > > > what say you?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Steve Young <
> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > factoryboy is nice!  How about
> > > > > https://github.com/vandersonmota/model_mommy?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> > > > jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > factoryboy ++1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wouldn't go back to anything else.   Makes testing taste great.
> >  json
> > > > > > importing is all crunchy, dry and brittle by comparison.   That +
> > > > > > migrations (nee south) makes db refactoring less sucky. Still
> isn't
> > > as
> > > > > good
> > > > > > as I would like to see db refactoring, but it is less like hard
> > > > concrete
> > > > > > and more like wet sand with these tools.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Wes Turner <
> wes.turner at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2/19/14, Mike Hostetler <mike at squarepegsystems.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I'm getting ready to start a new Django project -- this is
> good
> > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > Wes added some great links too.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I did move a bunch of Django fixtures from the "traditional"
> > JSON
> > > > > > > importing
> > > > > > > > to FactoryBoy and -- wow -- was life ever easier after that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://factoryboy.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ ... Thanks!
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > > > > 402.218.1473
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > > 402.218.1473
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Wed May 21 01:47:14 2014
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 18:47:14 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this months meeting.

Topics:

   - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
   - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some programming
   problems so bring your laptop.
   - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit harassing us!
   :-)

Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it apparent who we
are so newcomers can find us easily.

Steve

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed May 21 20:36:45 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:36:45 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8dMQEhdquGH_EmgGhWftK2RABCQPE5BD4BE0k8d2pQvA@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be there, just say where.

-jeff


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this months meeting.
>
> Topics:
>
>    - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
>    - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some programming
>    problems so bring your laptop.
>    - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit harassing us!
>    :-)
>
> Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it apparent who we
> are so newcomers can find us easily.
>
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Wed May 21 21:39:12 2014
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 14:39:12 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8dMQEhdquGH_EmgGhWftK2RABCQPE5BD4BE0k8d2pQvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO8dMQEhdquGH_EmgGhWftK2RABCQPE5BD4BE0k8d2pQvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzijUBoumktqSQ5712Q46h2aGBGiP+WzF9s+3MUtO+f0cg@mail.gmail.com>

Panera's at 78th and Dodge.

Steve


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> I'll be there, just say where.
>
> -jeff
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this months
> meeting.
> >
> > Topics:
> >
> >    - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
> >    - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some
> programming
> >    problems so bring your laptop.
> >    - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit harassing
> us!
> >    :-)
> >
> > Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it apparent who we
> > are so newcomers can find us easily.
> >
> > Steve
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed May 21 22:07:45 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 15:07:45 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzijUBoumktqSQ5712Q46h2aGBGiP+WzF9s+3MUtO+f0cg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO8dMQEhdquGH_EmgGhWftK2RABCQPE5BD4BE0k8d2pQvA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFGSzzijUBoumktqSQ5712Q46h2aGBGiP+WzF9s+3MUtO+f0cg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-b8c3_virQrnZXMLsKYprAdbe1itSfFkJyjjevV73s7g@mail.gmail.com>

I've updated the website.

See you there!

-j


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Panera's at 78th and Dodge.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I'll be there, just say where.
> >
> > -jeff
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this months
> > meeting.
> > >
> > > Topics:
> > >
> > >    - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
> > >    - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some
> > programming
> > >    problems so bring your laptop.
> > >    - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit harassing
> > us!
> > >    :-)
> > >
> > > Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it apparent who
> we
> > > are so newcomers can find us easily.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Wed May 21 21:57:15 2014
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (jrguliz at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:57:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzijUBoumktqSQ5712Q46h2aGBGiP+WzF9s+3MUtO+f0cg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1400702235.69847.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

If tonight (Wed)...can't make it???? work @ Best Buy....

If tomorrow night then possible

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed May 21 22:11:25 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 15:11:25 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <1400702235.69847.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAFGSzzijUBoumktqSQ5712Q46h2aGBGiP+WzF9s+3MUtO+f0cg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1400702235.69847.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO9bsi5Mz-40x_n4kXq8oMmyan+DyHwOKFXoGq3COVu-dQ@mail.gmail.com>

Oh, oops, you are right.  Thursday night, right?



On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:57 PM, jrguliz at yahoo.com <
jrguliz at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid> wrote:

> If tonight (Wed)...can't make it     work @ Best Buy....
>
> If tomorrow night then possible
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed May 21 22:12:34 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 15:12:34 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO9bsi5Mz-40x_n4kXq8oMmyan+DyHwOKFXoGq3COVu-dQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzijUBoumktqSQ5712Q46h2aGBGiP+WzF9s+3MUtO+f0cg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1400702235.69847.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <CALHZEO9bsi5Mz-40x_n4kXq8oMmyan+DyHwOKFXoGq3COVu-dQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_D_UoQv+cKrhsyjPbHvjnoWLUxPY=L7pBcDF1iGAeunQ@mail.gmail.com>

No it is tonight, just like the website says.

Sorry, we'll miss you.

Best,
Jeff


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Oh, oops, you are right.  Thursday night, right?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:57 PM, jrguliz at yahoo.com <
> jrguliz at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid> wrote:
>
>> If tonight (Wed)...can't make it     work @ Best Buy....
>>
>> If tomorrow night then possible
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
>
>


-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From bob.haffner at gmail.com  Wed May 21 18:40:24 2014
From: bob.haffner at gmail.com (Bob Haffner)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 11:40:24 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPC5U_=RmNdPs3bLL-TUe_Z4+E3Fn-N+6EmVzekmp+UrKg3E7A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

New guy here.  I would like to attend tonight's meeting if possible.  Has
the location been decided yet?

Thanks
Bob Haffner
bob.haffner at gmail.com


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this months meeting.
>
> Topics:
>
>    - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
>    - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some programming
>    problems so bring your laptop.
>    - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit harassing us!
>    :-)
>
> Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it apparent who we
> are so newcomers can find us easily.
>
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed May 21 22:14:50 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 15:14:50 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CAPC5U_=RmNdPs3bLL-TUe_Z4+E3Fn-N+6EmVzekmp+UrKg3E7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPC5U_=RmNdPs3bLL-TUe_Z4+E3Fn-N+6EmVzekmp+UrKg3E7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_nATgar11RnF8x1vKZGC-sFDyFW7kuw4pmYQUmHT3RhA@mail.gmail.com>

Panera's 78th and Dodge.  Look for Steve, He'll be doing something
obviously pythonic so we'll be easy to spot  ;P

http://www.omahapython.org/blog/


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bob Haffner <bob.haffner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> New guy here.  I would like to attend tonight's meeting if possible.  Has
> the location been decided yet?
>
> Thanks
> Bob Haffner
> bob.haffner at gmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this months
> meeting.
> >
> > Topics:
> >
> >    - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
> >    - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some
> programming
> >    problems so bring your laptop.
> >    - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit harassing
> us!
> >    :-)
> >
> > Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it apparent who we
> > are so newcomers can find us easily.
> >
> > Steve
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Wed May 21 22:20:09 2014
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 15:20:09 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_nATgar11RnF8x1vKZGC-sFDyFW7kuw4pmYQUmHT3RhA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPC5U_=RmNdPs3bLL-TUe_Z4+E3Fn-N+6EmVzekmp+UrKg3E7A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO_nATgar11RnF8x1vKZGC-sFDyFW7kuw4pmYQUmHT3RhA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzziUvmGpzD2TcVefBTwsss+gNd934Tp-xdeZj4qhwiT_MQ@mail.gmail.com>

Note to self - don't use generic date words in subject.

7pm, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 at
Panera<https://www.google.com/maps/place/Panera+Bread/@41.2566381,-96.0394919,15z/data=!4m5!1m2!2m1!1sPanera+Bread,+Omaha,+NE!3m1!1s0x0:0x52e101644668b78f>
.

See you there.

Steve


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Panera's 78th and Dodge.  Look for Steve, He'll be doing something
> obviously pythonic so we'll be easy to spot  ;P
>
> http://www.omahapython.org/blog/
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bob Haffner <bob.haffner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > New guy here.  I would like to attend tonight's meeting if possible.  Has
> > the location been decided yet?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Bob Haffner
> > bob.haffner at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this months
> > meeting.
> > >
> > > Topics:
> > >
> > >    - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
> > >    - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some
> > programming
> > >    problems so bring your laptop.
> > >    - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit harassing
> > us!
> > >    :-)
> > >
> > > Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it apparent who
> we
> > > are so newcomers can find us easily.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From dragonfyre13 at gmail.com  Thu May 22 00:04:57 2014
From: dragonfyre13 at gmail.com (Tim Alexander)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:04:57 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzziUvmGpzD2TcVefBTwsss+gNd934Tp-xdeZj4qhwiT_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPC5U_=RmNdPs3bLL-TUe_Z4+E3Fn-N+6EmVzekmp+UrKg3E7A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO_nATgar11RnF8x1vKZGC-sFDyFW7kuw4pmYQUmHT3RhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFGSzziUvmGpzD2TcVefBTwsss+gNd934Tp-xdeZj4qhwiT_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+aHcdDAJD67m4QSbk52UgvDpXLS2euYk0Zu5=GTGyfq69dwdA@mail.gmail.com>

[almost unrelated python reference]
Or you can, and just make sure you've got one of these imported first:
https://github.com/bear/parsedatetime
http://labix.org/python-dateutil
https://bitbucket.org/jbmohler/fuzzyparsers
https://github.com/stevepeak/timestring
[/almost unrelated python reference]


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Note to self - don't use generic date words in subject.
>
> 7pm, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 at
> Panera<
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Panera+Bread/@41.2566381,-96.0394919,15z/data=!4m5!1m2!2m1!1sPanera+Bread,+Omaha,+NE!3m1!1s0x0:0x52e101644668b78f
> >
> .
>
> See you there.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Panera's 78th and Dodge.  Look for Steve, He'll be doing something
> > obviously pythonic so we'll be easy to spot  ;P
> >
> > http://www.omahapython.org/blog/
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bob Haffner <bob.haffner at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > New guy here.  I would like to attend tonight's meeting if possible.
>  Has
> > > the location been decided yet?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Bob Haffner
> > > bob.haffner at gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Steve Young <
> wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this months
> > > meeting.
> > > >
> > > > Topics:
> > > >
> > > >    - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
> > > >    - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some
> > > programming
> > > >    problems so bring your laptop.
> > > >    - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit
> harassing
> > > us!
> > > >    :-)
> > > >
> > > > Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it apparent
> who
> > we
> > > > are so newcomers can find us easily.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu May 22 00:46:24 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:46:24 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CA+aHcdDAJD67m4QSbk52UgvDpXLS2euYk0Zu5=GTGyfq69dwdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPC5U_=RmNdPs3bLL-TUe_Z4+E3Fn-N+6EmVzekmp+UrKg3E7A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO_nATgar11RnF8x1vKZGC-sFDyFW7kuw4pmYQUmHT3RhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFGSzziUvmGpzD2TcVefBTwsss+gNd934Tp-xdeZj4qhwiT_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+aHcdDAJD67m4QSbk52UgvDpXLS2euYk0Zu5=GTGyfq69dwdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8wx=RjEGEnsPwXb4bq4VBw3pkZiEKvjkeneXUyy0vVpA@mail.gmail.com>

[jep]
>>> import datetime
>>> datetime.date(2014,5,20) + datetime.timedelta(days=1)
datetime.date(2014, 5, 21)
[/jep]

just enough python(jep)


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Tim Alexander <dragonfyre13 at gmail.com>wrote:

> [almost unrelated python reference]
> Or you can, and just make sure you've got one of these imported first:
> https://github.com/bear/parsedatetime
> http://labix.org/python-dateutil
> https://bitbucket.org/jbmohler/fuzzyparsers
> https://github.com/stevepeak/timestring
> [/almost unrelated python reference]
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Note to self - don't use generic date words in subject.
> >
> > 7pm, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 at
> > Panera<
> >
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Panera+Bread/@41.2566381,-96.0394919,15z/data=!4m5!1m2!2m1!1sPanera+Bread,+Omaha,+NE!3m1!1s0x0:0x52e101644668b78f
> > >
> > .
> >
> > See you there.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Panera's 78th and Dodge.  Look for Steve, He'll be doing something
> > > obviously pythonic so we'll be easy to spot  ;P
> > >
> > > http://www.omahapython.org/blog/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bob Haffner <bob.haffner at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > New guy here.  I would like to attend tonight's meeting if possible.
> >  Has
> > > > the location been decided yet?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Bob Haffner
> > > > bob.haffner at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Steve Young <
> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this months
> > > > meeting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Topics:
> > > > >
> > > > >    - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
> > > > >    - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some
> > > > programming
> > > > >    problems so bring your laptop.
> > > > >    - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit
> > harassing
> > > > us!
> > > > >    :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it apparent
> > who
> > > we
> > > > > are so newcomers can find us easily.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From davidgilman1 at gmail.com  Thu May 22 01:39:07 2014
From: davidgilman1 at gmail.com (David Gilman)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 18:39:07 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8wx=RjEGEnsPwXb4bq4VBw3pkZiEKvjkeneXUyy0vVpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPC5U_=RmNdPs3bLL-TUe_Z4+E3Fn-N+6EmVzekmp+UrKg3E7A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO_nATgar11RnF8x1vKZGC-sFDyFW7kuw4pmYQUmHT3RhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFGSzziUvmGpzD2TcVefBTwsss+gNd934Tp-xdeZj4qhwiT_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+aHcdDAJD67m4QSbk52UgvDpXLS2euYk0Zu5=GTGyfq69dwdA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO8wx=RjEGEnsPwXb4bq4VBw3pkZiEKvjkeneXUyy0vVpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALBH9DA9O77vtpW8t9SLsz3qEWanO5tCJEBs4LYnQki8VrufjQ@mail.gmail.com>

I won't be able to make this meeting but I'd like to hear from anyone
who might be going to CodeDay Omaha this weekend.  I don't have a
group/project and I'm looking to collaborate (whether it is in Python
or not).

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
<jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:
> [jep]
>>>> import datetime
>>>> datetime.date(2014,5,20) + datetime.timedelta(days=1)
> datetime.date(2014, 5, 21)
> [/jep]
>
> just enough python(jep)
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Tim Alexander <dragonfyre13 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> [almost unrelated python reference]
>> Or you can, and just make sure you've got one of these imported first:
>> https://github.com/bear/parsedatetime
>> http://labix.org/python-dateutil
>> https://bitbucket.org/jbmohler/fuzzyparsers
>> https://github.com/stevepeak/timestring
>> [/almost unrelated python reference]
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Note to self - don't use generic date words in subject.
>> >
>> > 7pm, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 at
>> > Panera<
>> >
>> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Panera+Bread/@41.2566381,-96.0394919,15z/data=!4m5!1m2!2m1!1sPanera+Bread,+Omaha,+NE!3m1!1s0x0:0x52e101644668b78f
>> > >
>> > .
>> >
>> > See you there.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
>> jeffh at dundeemt.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Panera's 78th and Dodge.  Look for Steve, He'll be doing something
>> > > obviously pythonic so we'll be easy to spot  ;P
>> > >
>> > > http://www.omahapython.org/blog/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bob Haffner <bob.haffner at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi All,
>> > > >
>> > > > New guy here.  I would like to attend tonight's meeting if possible.
>> >  Has
>> > > > the location been decided yet?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > Bob Haffner
>> > > > bob.haffner at gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Steve Young <
>> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this months
>> > > > meeting.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Topics:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >    - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
>> > > > >    - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some
>> > > > programming
>> > > > >    problems so bring your laptop.
>> > > > >    - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit
>> > harassing
>> > > > us!
>> > > > >    :-)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it apparent
>> > who
>> > > we
>> > > > > are so newcomers can find us easily.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Steve
>> > > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > > > Omaha at python.org
>> > > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > > >
>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > > Omaha at python.org
>> > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Best,
>> > >
>> > > Jeff Hinrichs
>> > > 402.218.1473
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > > Omaha at python.org
>> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> > Omaha at python.org
>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org



-- 
David Gilman
:DG<

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu May 22 04:55:00 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 21:55:00 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CALBH9DA9O77vtpW8t9SLsz3qEWanO5tCJEBs4LYnQki8VrufjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPC5U_=RmNdPs3bLL-TUe_Z4+E3Fn-N+6EmVzekmp+UrKg3E7A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO_nATgar11RnF8x1vKZGC-sFDyFW7kuw4pmYQUmHT3RhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFGSzziUvmGpzD2TcVefBTwsss+gNd934Tp-xdeZj4qhwiT_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+aHcdDAJD67m4QSbk52UgvDpXLS2euYk0Zu5=GTGyfq69dwdA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO8wx=RjEGEnsPwXb4bq4VBw3pkZiEKvjkeneXUyy0vVpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALBH9DA9O77vtpW8t9SLsz3qEWanO5tCJEBs4LYnQki8VrufjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-Za37qzmQRkDFb_grJGJwV_=A7yvAqL8a46a_SqY3nFg@mail.gmail.com>

good question, got a link to CodeDay Omaha?


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:39 PM, David Gilman <davidgilman1 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I won't be able to make this meeting but I'd like to hear from anyone
> who might be going to CodeDay Omaha this weekend.  I don't have a
> group/project and I'm looking to collaborate (whether it is in Python
> or not).
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> <jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:
> > [jep]
> >>>> import datetime
> >>>> datetime.date(2014,5,20) + datetime.timedelta(days=1)
> > datetime.date(2014, 5, 21)
> > [/jep]
> >
> > just enough python(jep)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Tim Alexander <dragonfyre13 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> [almost unrelated python reference]
> >> Or you can, and just make sure you've got one of these imported first:
> >> https://github.com/bear/parsedatetime
> >> http://labix.org/python-dateutil
> >> https://bitbucket.org/jbmohler/fuzzyparsers
> >> https://github.com/stevepeak/timestring
> >> [/almost unrelated python reference]
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Note to self - don't use generic date words in subject.
> >> >
> >> > 7pm, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 at
> >> > Panera<
> >> >
> >>
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Panera+Bread/@41.2566381,-96.0394919,15z/data=!4m5!1m2!2m1!1sPanera+Bread,+Omaha,+NE!3m1!1s0x0:0x52e101644668b78f
> >> > >
> >> > .
> >> >
> >> > See you there.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> >> jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Panera's 78th and Dodge.  Look for Steve, He'll be doing something
> >> > > obviously pythonic so we'll be easy to spot  ;P
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.omahapython.org/blog/
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bob Haffner <
> bob.haffner at gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi All,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > New guy here.  I would like to attend tonight's meeting if
> possible.
> >> >  Has
> >> > > > the location been decided yet?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks
> >> > > > Bob Haffner
> >> > > > bob.haffner at gmail.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Steve Young <
> >> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >> > > > >wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Location: BWW was too loud - open for suggestions for this
> months
> >> > > > meeting.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Topics:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >    - Jeff can update his progress with YamJam.
> >> > > > >    - Last month we had some interest for help with solving some
> >> > > > programming
> >> > > > >    problems so bring your laptop.
> >> > > > >    - How we can keep the Python group active so Jay will quit
> >> > harassing
> >> > > > us!
> >> > > > >    :-)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Please respond if you are coming - I will try and make it
> apparent
> >> > who
> >> > > we
> >> > > > > are so newcomers can find us easily.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Steve
> >> > > > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > > > Omaha at python.org
> >> > > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > > Omaha at python.org
> >> > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Best,
> >> > >
> >> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> >> > > 402.218.1473
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > Omaha at python.org
> >> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > Omaha at python.org
> >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org
> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
>
>
> --
> David Gilman
> :DG<
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From bkealey at unomaha.edu  Thu May 22 05:36:18 2014
From: bkealey at unomaha.edu (Burch Kealey)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 03:36:18 +0000
Subject: [omaha] CodeDay
Message-ID: <1400729779893.77857@unomaha.edu>

Here is the problem


No, the event is open to all currently enrolled students. Usually, most of the attendees are in high school and college. Middle school students that can behave independently are allowed.


The second problem is this


http://www.intellectualventures.com/inventions-patents

Inventions & Patents | Intellectual Ventures
We partner with our worldwide network of inventors, buy and license patents, and create our own inventions. We are creating a marketplace for invention.
Read more...<http://www.intellectualventures.com/inventions-patents>




I recognized their name from some WSJ articles - here is a Wikipedia article about their activities


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures#Controversy

Intellectual Ventures
Intellectual Ventures is a private company notable for being one of the top-five owners of U.S. patents, as of 2011. Its business model has a focus on...
Read more...<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures#Controversy>




I won't bother sending the WSJ article links because you have to be a subscriber.


These guys run a sharp organization.  A friend of mine has hypothesized that one of the reasons they support things like this is to get ideas for patents.


I personally do not believe software should be patentable - not applications built on code that was created by someone else.


But if you still want the link (and sorry for the political nature of my post)


http://codeday.org/omaha

[http://codeday.org/image/event_preview/19_400,300.jpg]<http://codeday.org/omaha>

CodeDay Omaha
Join 2,000 students at CodeDay Spring 2014 and build something awesome in 24 hours!
Read more...<http://codeday.org/omaha>

?



From Payne at MattPayne.org  Thu May 22 06:08:33 2014
From: Payne at MattPayne.org (Matt Payne)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 23:08:33 -0500
Subject: [omaha] CodeDay
In-Reply-To: <1400729779893.77857@unomaha.edu>
References: <1400729779893.77857@unomaha.edu>
Message-ID: <CAOQmnQEV7uXR=qgoPAHfpKO88=2YV+EZB0FvRmn7FQToepjMPw@mail.gmail.com>

Burch -- Thanks for the heads up on this.   I had notice that the event was
students only.

I had not notice it is connected to patent "hounds."

I agree with you that software should not be patentable.

Thanks for the post! --Matt Payne

CC:ed some Omaha Code school folks




On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu> wrote:

> Here is the problem
>
>
> No, the event is open to all currently enrolled students. Usually, most of
> the attendees are in high school and college. Middle school students that
> can behave independently are allowed.
>
>
> The second problem is this
>
>
> http://www.intellectualventures.com/inventions-patents
>
> Inventions & Patents | Intellectual Ventures
> We partner with our worldwide network of inventors, buy and license
> patents, and create our own inventions. We are creating a marketplace for
> invention.
> Read more...<http://www.intellectualventures.com/inventions-patents>
>
>
>
>
> I recognized their name from some WSJ articles - here is a Wikipedia
> article about their activities
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures#Controversy
>
> Intellectual Ventures
> Intellectual Ventures is a private company notable for being one of the
> top-five owners of U.S. patents, as of 2011. Its business model has a focus
> on...
> Read more...<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures#Controversy>
>
>
>
>
> I won't bother sending the WSJ article links because you have to be a
> subscriber.
>
>
> These guys run a sharp organization.  A friend of mine has hypothesized
> that one of the reasons they support things like this is to get ideas for
> patents.
>
>
> I personally do not believe software should be patentable - not
> applications built on code that was created by someone else.
>
>
> But if you still want the link (and sorry for the political nature of my
> post)
>
>
> http://codeday.org/omaha
>
> [http://codeday.org/image/event_preview/19_400,300.jpg]<
> http://codeday.org/omaha>
>
> CodeDay Omaha
> Join 2,000 students at CodeDay Spring 2014 and build something awesome in
> 24 hours!
> Read more...<http://codeday.org/omaha>
>
> ?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



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--Matt Payne

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu May 22 06:44:47 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 23:44:47 -0500
Subject: [omaha] CodeDay
In-Reply-To: <CAOQmnQEV7uXR=qgoPAHfpKO88=2YV+EZB0FvRmn7FQToepjMPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1400729779893.77857@unomaha.edu>
 <CAOQmnQEV7uXR=qgoPAHfpKO88=2YV+EZB0FvRmn7FQToepjMPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO9Zr6U8M+Mz=zOFpC_dJNtQy5f8KjjAiQe5L-umL2LQvw@mail.gmail.com>

Burch,
Thanks for the info.  You are preaching to the choir here about software
patents.

Best,
Jeff


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Matt Payne <Payne at mattpayne.org> wrote:

> Burch -- Thanks for the heads up on this.   I had notice that the event was
> students only.
>
> I had not notice it is connected to patent "hounds."
>
> I agree with you that software should not be patentable.
>
> Thanks for the post! --Matt Payne
>
> CC:ed some Omaha Code school folks
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Here is the problem
> >
> >
> > No, the event is open to all currently enrolled students. Usually, most
> of
> > the attendees are in high school and college. Middle school students that
> > can behave independently are allowed.
> >
> >
> > The second problem is this
> >
> >
> > http://www.intellectualventures.com/inventions-patents
> >
> > Inventions & Patents | Intellectual Ventures
> > We partner with our worldwide network of inventors, buy and license
> > patents, and create our own inventions. We are creating a marketplace for
> > invention.
> > Read more...<http://www.intellectualventures.com/inventions-patents>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I recognized their name from some WSJ articles - here is a Wikipedia
> > article about their activities
> >
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures#Controversy
> >
> > Intellectual Ventures
> > Intellectual Ventures is a private company notable for being one of the
> > top-five owners of U.S. patents, as of 2011. Its business model has a
> focus
> > on...
> > Read more...<
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures#Controversy>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I won't bother sending the WSJ article links because you have to be a
> > subscriber.
> >
> >
> > These guys run a sharp organization.  A friend of mine has hypothesized
> > that one of the reasons they support things like this is to get ideas for
> > patents.
> >
> >
> > I personally do not believe software should be patentable - not
> > applications built on code that was created by someone else.
> >
> >
> > But if you still want the link (and sorry for the political nature of my
> > post)
> >
> >
> > http://codeday.org/omaha
> >
> > [http://codeday.org/image/event_preview/19_400,300.jpg]<
> > http://codeday.org/omaha>
> >
> > CodeDay Omaha
> > Join 2,000 students at CodeDay Spring 2014 and build something awesome in
> > 24 hours!
> > Read more...<http://codeday.org/omaha>
> >
> > ?
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --Matt Payne
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu May 22 06:48:15 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 23:48:15 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Anyone going to Nebrasaka IT Symposium @ Creighton tomorrow?
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8xgtqfNzM+B-Mitw8SBmRiW7pzbHkjm_JMPgMHd0W+gg@mail.gmail.com>

If so, ping the list and I'll keep an eye out for you.

http://efmevents.com/2014/nebraska/

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From choman at gmail.com  Thu May 22 16:32:35 2014
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 09:32:35 -0500
Subject: [omaha] May meeting - Tomorrow 7pm
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO-Za37qzmQRkDFb_grJGJwV_=A7yvAqL8a46a_SqY3nFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgEjpnruk4njG3CZjdaXMGdcWBx=Zr6VAQEXpKa2=5HjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPC5U_=RmNdPs3bLL-TUe_Z4+E3Fn-N+6EmVzekmp+UrKg3E7A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO_nATgar11RnF8x1vKZGC-sFDyFW7kuw4pmYQUmHT3RhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFGSzziUvmGpzD2TcVefBTwsss+gNd934Tp-xdeZj4qhwiT_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+aHcdDAJD67m4QSbk52UgvDpXLS2euYk0Zu5=GTGyfq69dwdA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO8wx=RjEGEnsPwXb4bq4VBw3pkZiEKvjkeneXUyy0vVpA@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CALHZEO-Za37qzmQRkDFb_grJGJwV_=A7yvAqL8a46a_SqY3nFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xrk5gfMmvA4FD-0u6+yBHK=DpWQUC55gojHsJ_LKF3SbV6Sw@mail.gmail.com>

http://codeday.org/omaha


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> CodeDay Omaha




Together We Win!
--
Chad - I AM MONAVIE
Do You Know Your Life Score? <http://choman.mymonavie.com>
Creating A More Meaningful Life

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
Windows."
Now they have two problems.

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu May 22 23:35:54 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 16:35:54 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Dr Dobbs article on Mock in Python
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-df-wvsSLrxDaPC5zXQUT0c=+33ddrPboRhynJSL+ozA@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.drdobbs.com/testing/unit-testing-with-the-python-mock-class/240168251

Nice article.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Sat May 24 21:32:47 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 14:32:47 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Announce: Release of pysftp v0.2.7
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-bYKqOxqR9Hp3Km8o4COiUJXd1U5NpixCQwFedkbs+PQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pysftp

Special mention to Justin from OLUG for contributing the public SFTP server
we use for testing.

If anyone has some time to kill over the holiday, there are some bite size
issues you could contribute towards.  I'll be happy to answer any questions
you might have about cloning a repos and creating pull requests.  See
issues 47 and 48

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Tue May 27 16:37:53 2014
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 09:37:53 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Static vs media files in django
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzgwe91BRe2yDEeQ4RwxLXGwOVnZXp4SN-yddzJ-ARLwbA@mail.gmail.com>

Using Django 1.7 building a flashcard app.  Currently I have about 1000
images - one per card, and images can be used on multiple cards.  Later on
users may be able to upload images also.  Django seems to have 2 basic ways
to serve static files - Static and Media.  From what I gather static is for
css, logos, and other admin created files, and media is for user uploaded
content.?

I am thinking Media is the way to go?  If you have any other suggestions on
handling images please chime in.

Thanks.

Steve

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Tue May 27 22:38:57 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:38:57 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Static vs media files in django
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzgwe91BRe2yDEeQ4RwxLXGwOVnZXp4SN-yddzJ-ARLwbA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgwe91BRe2yDEeQ4RwxLXGwOVnZXp4SN-yddzJ-ARLwbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8hyC-5sNb1ZFB4oQG7mq6UyXz406CJNwaibg+yW3-VcA@mail.gmail.com>

If you don't not need to distinguish between the images you supply and user
upload images then yes.
caveat: If some subset of the images are not for cards but for the site in
general, I'd put that subset in static.


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Using Django 1.7 building a flashcard app.  Currently I have about 1000
> images - one per card, and images can be used on multiple cards.  Later on
> users may be able to upload images also.  Django seems to have 2 basic ways
> to serve static files - Static and Media.  From what I gather static is for
> css, logos, and other admin created files, and media is for user uploaded
> content.?
>
> I am thinking Media is the way to go?  If you have any other suggestions on
> handling images please chime in.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Steve
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Wed May 28 01:00:00 2014
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 18:00:00 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Static vs media files in django
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO8hyC-5sNb1ZFB4oQG7mq6UyXz406CJNwaibg+yW3-VcA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgwe91BRe2yDEeQ4RwxLXGwOVnZXp4SN-yddzJ-ARLwbA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO8hyC-5sNb1ZFB4oQG7mq6UyXz406CJNwaibg+yW3-VcA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzivy5r76gcu2OZTOuT9FTN4pw-ozYZYp1ngSDphDNfZDg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks.  How about organizing the files - eventually they will be tagged to
make it simple for users to find images and add them to new cards.  Should
I put all the images in one folder or categorize them with sub-folders?
Or even put the images in a database?

Steve


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> If you don't not need to distinguish between the images you supply and user
> upload images then yes.
> caveat: If some subset of the images are not for cards but for the site in
> general, I'd put that subset in static.
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Using Django 1.7 building a flashcard app.  Currently I have about 1000
> > images - one per card, and images can be used on multiple cards.  Later
> on
> > users may be able to upload images also.  Django seems to have 2 basic
> ways
> > to serve static files - Static and Media.  From what I gather static is
> for
> > css, logos, and other admin created files, and media is for user uploaded
> > content.?
> >
> > I am thinking Media is the way to go?  If you have any other suggestions
> on
> > handling images please chime in.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Steve
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed May 28 01:25:29 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 18:25:29 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Static vs media files in django
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzivy5r76gcu2OZTOuT9FTN4pw-ozYZYp1ngSDphDNfZDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgwe91BRe2yDEeQ4RwxLXGwOVnZXp4SN-yddzJ-ARLwbA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO8hyC-5sNb1ZFB4oQG7mq6UyXz406CJNwaibg+yW3-VcA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFGSzzivy5r76gcu2OZTOuT9FTN4pw-ozYZYp1ngSDphDNfZDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO9f=j1-9XJgQwXZTATqM31vqBptsfd9ccL31UmgL_DxAw@mail.gmail.com>

How many images are you thinking?
Some Generalizations:
  * The fewer folders the better.
  * never use supplied names for file names
  * keep images out of a database unless the DB is designed for it
specifically(most are not)
  * your categories will fall woefully short, I'd recommend a folksonomy
over a taxonomy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folksonomy

more specific but still incomplete:
 * an image table
 * each image file named by the _id of the instance
 * store image type in the table
 * store uploaded by
 * store uploaded when
 * a category/tag table
 * an m-n relationship between image and category/tag (many to many)


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks.  How about organizing the files - eventually they will be tagged to
> make it simple for users to find images and add them to new cards.  Should
> I put all the images in one folder or categorize them with sub-folders?
> Or even put the images in a database?
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > If you don't not need to distinguish between the images you supply and
> user
> > upload images then yes.
> > caveat: If some subset of the images are not for cards but for the site
> in
> > general, I'd put that subset in static.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Using Django 1.7 building a flashcard app.  Currently I have about 1000
> > > images - one per card, and images can be used on multiple cards.  Later
> > on
> > > users may be able to upload images also.  Django seems to have 2 basic
> > ways
> > > to serve static files - Static and Media.  From what I gather static is
> > for
> > > css, logos, and other admin created files, and media is for user
> uploaded
> > > content.?
> > >
> > > I am thinking Media is the way to go?  If you have any other
> suggestions
> > on
> > > handling images please chime in.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Wed May 28 23:14:13 2014
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 16:14:13 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Static vs media files in django
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO9f=j1-9XJgQwXZTATqM31vqBptsfd9ccL31UmgL_DxAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgwe91BRe2yDEeQ4RwxLXGwOVnZXp4SN-yddzJ-ARLwbA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO8hyC-5sNb1ZFB4oQG7mq6UyXz406CJNwaibg+yW3-VcA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFGSzzivy5r76gcu2OZTOuT9FTN4pw-ozYZYp1ngSDphDNfZDg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO9f=j1-9XJgQwXZTATqM31vqBptsfd9ccL31UmgL_DxAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzhzVjSr4T-+vNmGz7YGOadH3MvCVvLWRBQY6JnvReLhBg@mail.gmail.com>

*  * never use supplied names for file names*

do you have an alternative for this?  I think I remember using Django's
file upload feature a while back and it gave a long un-descriptive name.
 The initial upload I will do of about 1000 images, then additional images
will be added by users and myself.


Steve


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> How many images are you thinking?
> Some Generalizations:
>   * The fewer folders the better.
>   * never use supplied names for file names
>   * keep images out of a database unless the DB is designed for it
> specifically(most are not)
>   * your categories will fall woefully short, I'd recommend a folksonomy
> over a taxonomy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folksonomy
>
> more specific but still incomplete:
>  * an image table
>  * each image file named by the _id of the instance
>  * store image type in the table
>  * store uploaded by
>  * store uploaded when
>  * a category/tag table
>  * an m-n relationship between image and category/tag (many to many)
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Thanks.  How about organizing the files - eventually they will be tagged
> to
> > make it simple for users to find images and add them to new cards.
>  Should
> > I put all the images in one folder or categorize them with sub-folders?
> > Or even put the images in a database?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > If you don't not need to distinguish between the images you supply and
> > user
> > > upload images then yes.
> > > caveat: If some subset of the images are not for cards but for the site
> > in
> > > general, I'd put that subset in static.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Steve Young <
> wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Using Django 1.7 building a flashcard app.  Currently I have about
> 1000
> > > > images - one per card, and images can be used on multiple cards.
>  Later
> > > on
> > > > users may be able to upload images also.  Django seems to have 2
> basic
> > > ways
> > > > to serve static files - Static and Media.  From what I gather static
> is
> > > for
> > > > css, logos, and other admin created files, and media is for user
> > uploaded
> > > > content.?
> > > >
> > > > I am thinking Media is the way to go?  If you have any other
> > suggestions
> > > on
> > > > handling images please chime in.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > > Omaha at python.org
> > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > > Omaha at python.org
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed May 28 23:56:30 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 16:56:30 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Static vs media files in django
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzhzVjSr4T-+vNmGz7YGOadH3MvCVvLWRBQY6JnvReLhBg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFGSzzgwe91BRe2yDEeQ4RwxLXGwOVnZXp4SN-yddzJ-ARLwbA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO8hyC-5sNb1ZFB4oQG7mq6UyXz406CJNwaibg+yW3-VcA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFGSzzivy5r76gcu2OZTOuT9FTN4pw-ozYZYp1ngSDphDNfZDg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALHZEO9f=j1-9XJgQwXZTATqM31vqBptsfd9ccL31UmgL_DxAw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFGSzzhzVjSr4T-+vNmGz7YGOadH3MvCVvLWRBQY6JnvReLhBg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8Crzuzk1gi-0fzRtpK9OR3ZVhg643BMdbGqL3Gb+_Kdw@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, just name the image file after the primary key for the record you
created for it in the db.  Store the user supplied name in the db. i.e.

\you\storage\for\user\images\1.jpg

Image(pk=1, type='image/jpeg', uname='My Cute Kittens: the cuddlies.jpg',
...)

after they upload, you'll need to qc the image and determine it's type,
size (h x w), bytes
then if it passes your tests, make a record, save the meta info about the
image, move/rename the image to its final home.

i.e.
\quarantine\My\ Cute\ Kittens:\ the\ cuddlies.jpg   -> verify -> make
record and save attributes -> then move the file to \approved\1.jpg

Users are nice, Operating systems are a pain in the arse.  you'll see .jpg,
.jpeg and stuff with no extension or a wrong extension.  That is why I
would encourage you to never trust an user upload.  In the long run, even
if you skip my advice, you'll end up implementing it bit by bit as you
encounter problems.  It's bad enough dealing with users with good
intentions, let alone malicious users.   quarantine -> verify -> approve

You'll also encounter lots of duplicate names too.  (That alone is reason
not to just blindly use the user supplied file name.)

clear as mud?



On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> *  * never use supplied names for file names*
>
> do you have an alternative for this?  I think I remember using Django's
> file upload feature a while back and it gave a long un-descriptive name.
>  The initial upload I will do of about 1000 images, then additional images
> will be added by users and myself.
>
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > How many images are you thinking?
> > Some Generalizations:
> >   * The fewer folders the better.
> >   * never use supplied names for file names
> >   * keep images out of a database unless the DB is designed for it
> > specifically(most are not)
> >   * your categories will fall woefully short, I'd recommend a folksonomy
> > over a taxonomy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folksonomy
> >
> > more specific but still incomplete:
> >  * an image table
> >  * each image file named by the _id of the instance
> >  * store image type in the table
> >  * store uploaded by
> >  * store uploaded when
> >  * a category/tag table
> >  * an m-n relationship between image and category/tag (many to many)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks.  How about organizing the files - eventually they will be
> tagged
> > to
> > > make it simple for users to find images and add them to new cards.
> >  Should
> > > I put all the images in one folder or categorize them with sub-folders?
> > > Or even put the images in a database?
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> > jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you don't not need to distinguish between the images you supply
> and
> > > user
> > > > upload images then yes.
> > > > caveat: If some subset of the images are not for cards but for the
> site
> > > in
> > > > general, I'd put that subset in static.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Steve Young <
> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Using Django 1.7 building a flashcard app.  Currently I have about
> > 1000
> > > > > images - one per card, and images can be used on multiple cards.
> >  Later
> > > > on
> > > > > users may be able to upload images also.  Django seems to have 2
> > basic
> > > > ways
> > > > > to serve static files - Static and Media.  From what I gather
> static
> > is
> > > > for
> > > > > css, logos, and other admin created files, and media is for user
> > > uploaded
> > > > > content.?
> > > > >
> > > > > I am thinking Media is the way to go?  If you have any other
> > > suggestions
> > > > on
> > > > > handling images please chime in.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > > 402.218.1473
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
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From ajkrell at yahoo.com  Thu May 29 00:24:54 2014
From: ajkrell at yahoo.com (Aj Krell)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 15:24:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [omaha] Django on Azure
Message-ID: <1401315894.82835.YahooMailNeo@web125602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi All.?

Does anyone have any experience putting a Django app on Azure. ?It works locally but when I publish I get a 500 error.?

I've been beating my head against the wall for the past 6 hours. ?I think it has something to do with the WSGI file, but I have no clue.?

Thanks!
Andy

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Fri May 30 00:38:38 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 17:38:38 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Django on Azure
In-Reply-To: <1401315894.82835.YahooMailNeo@web125602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1401315894.82835.YahooMailNeo@web125602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO-s=f6xHENCip07MqyvJ-3tA9Jo7d-DgL1m6hSWt=rh2A@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Aj,
I don't know of anyone in the group working with Azure.  I'm sure the list
would like to hear about your experiences though.
Any chance you can show your wsgi file and output from the server error
logs?

-jeff


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Aj Krell <ajkrell at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi All.
>
> Does anyone have any experience putting a Django app on Azure.  It works
> locally but when I publish I get a 500 error.
>
> I've been beating my head against the wall for the past 6 hours.  I think
> it has something to do with the WSGI file, but I have no clue.
>
> Thanks!
> Andy
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From mike at squarepegsystems.com  Fri May 30 13:21:56 2014
From: mike at squarepegsystems.com (Mike Hostetler)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 06:21:56 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Django on Azure
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References: <1401315894.82835.YahooMailNeo@web125602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAE1_9RXR=+4h2AO5rJVmucYpXXxdS76nB-0SNDzwYTK0vTLFzw@mail.gmail.com>

I honestly didn't know that Azure did Django. But I guess I never asked.

I would put your site in Debug mode, push it again, and see if you get
something different, If not, it's probably the WSGI file.

Then I would try Diagnostics:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg433048.aspx

I've done a few Django sites and I think hardest part is setting up a
Production server for it. Once it's going, it's fine, but there is a maze
of stuff for static content, ports, permissions, etc.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Aj Krell <ajkrell at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi All.
>
> Does anyone have any experience putting a Django app on Azure.  It works
> locally but when I publish I get a 500 error.
>
> I've been beating my head against the wall for the past 6 hours.  I think
> it has something to do with the WSGI file, but I have no clue.
>
> Thanks!
> Andy
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



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SquarePeg Systems
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