[omaha] Django Model patterns

Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T jeffh at dundeemt.com
Sat May 17 23:31:43 CEST 2014 

Jep,

Mock is another handy module to have.  I just used it in a test the other
day.
https://bitbucket.org/dundeemt/pysftp/src/3f28f05b9876103bccf1e6d5a47847163bf6cfcb/tests/test_pysftp_01.py?at=default
search for test_putfo around line 84.  Actually, I used it a number of
times to mock a generic function for testing a callback.
-j

jep - Just Enough Python


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> +1 for factory_boy
>
> Nice video introduction from down under:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a713rcagoYU
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Side topic ahoy!
> > >
> > > As we get 2.x closer to 3.x The migration continues to get easier.
>  Code
> > is
> > > drastically different from 2.7 than it was from 2.4 or even 2.5.  I
> > > understand the desire for 3.x to be significantly better than 2.x but
> as
> > > long as the transition is simple and smooth it shouldn't matter that
> > much.
> > >
> >
> > I am in agreement here. The closer the 2.x series gets to the 3.x series,
> > And by that, I'm talking about platforms such as django. 1.5/1.6 just
> > started support for 3.x.  That and db access like pymssql and mysqldb.
> >  Some are already in place, others are coming but until my tools and
> really
> > my platforms (FreeBSD and linux) have 3.x in place for system default
> then
> > I'll already be migrating.  When you cut code for a business -- my new
> app
> > list is already overwhelming, there is no way I would purposely make my
> > support environment larger than it had to be.  Most people in my company
> > don't understand that we are a software company that just happens to sell
> > non-software products. ;)
> >
> >
> > > Just please don't follow perls example. :)
> >
> > --Jay
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> > jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > they appear to be solving the same problem, it isn't clear after a
> > > cursory
> > > > glance what model_mommy is trying to do that factoryboy
> doesn't/can't.
> > > >
> > > > factoryboy serves me well.  When I change or add tools, I expect a
> 10x
> > > > improvement.  FactoryBoy did that over fixtures (and a lot more)
> > > >  model_mommy may do the same over fixtures but not over factoryboy.
>  So
> > > > unless I see a presentation on why model_mommy is significantly
> better
> > > than
> > > > factoryboy -  I view it as a time sink to change.  Also, docs are
> quite
> > > > good on factoryboy and once you start using it, it is easy to
> remember.
> > >  It
> > > > just makes sense once you grok it.
> > > >
> > > > Always be open to change, but demand that the change bring a 10x
> > > > improvement.  That is what is hurting python 3.x adoption. It is
> better
> > > > than 2.x but only incrementally with large hurdles - code and 3rd
> party
> > > > tools migration.
> > > >
> > > > these opinions are worth their market value, $0.00000001
> > > >
> > > > what say you?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Steve Young <
> > wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > factoryboy is nice!  How about
> > > > > https://github.com/vandersonmota/model_mommy?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <
> > > > jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > factoryboy ++1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wouldn't go back to anything else.   Makes testing taste great.
> >  json
> > > > > > importing is all crunchy, dry and brittle by comparison.   That +
> > > > > > migrations (nee south) makes db refactoring less sucky. Still
> isn't
> > > as
> > > > > good
> > > > > > as I would like to see db refactoring, but it is less like hard
> > > > concrete
> > > > > > and more like wet sand with these tools.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Wes Turner <
> wes.turner at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2/19/14, Mike Hostetler <mike at squarepegsystems.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I'm getting ready to start a new Django project -- this is
> good
> > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > Wes added some great links too.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I did move a bunch of Django fixtures from the "traditional"
> > JSON
> > > > > > > importing
> > > > > > > > to FactoryBoy and -- wow -- was life ever easier after that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://factoryboy.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ ... Thanks!
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
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> > > > > >
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